Expo Line - Surrey Langley Extension: Planning & Pre-Construction

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by madog222

That’s what makes LIM propulsion so great, the wheel don’t require traction.

Not for propulsion anyways. MIPS might correct me, but I'd imagine the 6% spec is related to emergency brake function. The LIM wouldn't be able to do much breaking in the event of a power failure.

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

I seriously hope they go back to building stations more like the original expo line. So more using the same design over and over again to speed things up and keep costs down. The stations don't all have to be unique. I totally understand the foundation portions and some minor adjustments may be required but really not every station needs to be like re-inventing the wheel and all. They can spruce things up by adding art or something while keeping station design uniform...

I wonder if they can get all the functional parts up and running first and then work on the aesthetics during revenue service.

[twoNeurons]

With reference to the tunnel like effect that bents over the road cause, One thing that’s nice about a tunnel-like effect is it typically tends to slow down cars and makes it nicer for bicycles. One of my favourite parts of the millennium line to ride under is the section from Renfrew to Gilmore as much of it is under the tracks and you have protection from rain.

I know cycling isn’t that popular in Surrey especially on Fraser Highway but I would chalk that up to it being a major fast moving traffic Corridor which is very friendly for cycling.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

I seriously hope they go back to building stations more like the original expo line. So more using the same design over and over again to speed things up and keep costs down. The stations don't all have to be unique. I totally understand the foundation portions and some minor adjustments may be required but really not every station needs to be like re-inventing the wheel and all. They can spruce things up by adding art or something while keeping station design uniform...

It was only the Phase 1 Millennium Line with unique stations, everything since has been based on standardized designs.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by madog222

It was only the Phase 1 Millennium Line with unique stations, everything since has been based on standardized designs.

Yeah the initial images I saw showed 'big glass box' stations similar to the above ground Canada and Evergreen line stations - also the renos they've done on a few Expo Line stations.

[scryer]

Not to completely change topics, but I am kind of curious as to what the final station names will end up being?

[Diegotheartist1]

Originally Posted by scryer

Not to completely change topics, but I am kind of curious as to what the final station names will end up being?

As far as I'm aware of, the final names are not determined yet. The names are chosen to reflect the area it serves. I assume the stations might have these names:

• Green Timbers / Outpatient Care
• Applewood / South Guildford / Johnston (original name of 152 St.) / West Fleetwood
• Fleetwood Centre / Fleetwood
• Bakerview / Coast Meridian (original name of 168 St.)
• North Cloverdale
• Clayton
• Willowbrook
• Langley Centre / Langley City

These are the possible names for the stations I could think of. There could be more names being determined from the planning process, which may or may not match my predictions.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by madog222

It was only the Phase 1 Millennium Line with unique stations, everything since has been based on standardized designs.

I actually kind of disagree… Although station should be functional it’s nice to have a few stations which are key or marquee stations which have some architectural flair to them.

On the millennium line do you have stations like a Renfrew and Rupert which is similar to each other. You could have a couple of themes. Brentwood station is still beautiful and given it’s so prominently placed nice to have.

[Vancouver_Highrise]

I honestly think the will keep the names pretty simple.

ie. 152nd St Station, Fleetwood Station, Clayton Station. etc

[Migrant_Coconut]

166th will definitely need a paired-up name. Nobody outside of Fleetwood knows where the hell it is.

[Diegotheartist1]

I also wonder, what if Langley Centre uses a single-track platform like Richmond-Brighouse and YVR-Airport? or maybe Langley Centre can use the Spanish Solution for a single track?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Don't know about that, what happens if we need a Murrayville extension?

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by cganuelas1995

Nah think of the LIM like some electromagnetic rack and pinion. The wheels are just there to guide it.

Yup - a MagLev on wheels.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

With reference to the tunnel like effect that bents over the road cause, One thing that’s nice about a tunnel-like effect is ...

I figure it'll be like Expo Blvd under the BC Place concourse (but with trees on either side).

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Diegotheartist1

I also wonder, what if Langley Centre uses a single-track platform like Richmond-Brighouse and YVR-Airport? or maybe Langley Centre can use the Spanish Solution for a single track?

Doubt they'd do that again.
Also I think one of the renders was of the terminus station, wasn't it?

[Galaxy]

They better not(single track end it) since I expect future extensions to happen including one over the Golden Ears Bridge as it was built so that a train service like Skytrain could potentially go over it in the future.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

Not for propulsion anyways. MIPS might correct me, but I'd imagine the 6% spec is related to emergency brake function. The LIM wouldn't be able to do much breaking in the event of a power failure.

They got an emergency brake but beyond that I got no numbers.

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

166th will definitely need a paired-up name. Nobody outside of Fleetwood knows where the hell it is.

Maybe something like "street-landmark" or just "landmark".

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by Diegotheartist1

I also wonder, what if Langley Centre uses a single-track platform like Richmond-Brighouse and YVR-Airport? or maybe Langley Centre can use the Spanish Solution for a single track?

If it's single-track, I'd imagine they in the future just truncate trains and reroute busses to Willowbrook while they rebuild the track with a crossover switch and then they could reopen it for single-tracked service while they work on the other side. Would cost a pretty penny, I'm not doubting that. Hopefully by the time that happens, Abbotsford and Mission will be in Translink jurisdiction. Wouldn't hold my breath though, because we might be dead before shovels hit the pavement.

[scryer]

Yeah, I'm not sure I recall seeing single tracking to Langley being in the cards.

It would be incredibly short sighted and I would like to think that the region has learned its lesson from single tracking in Richmond . Richmond ain't getting no extension anytime soon until they sort that mess out .

Double tracking the Skytrain all the way through will make future extensions easier. And yes, I do feel that we need to do the region a favour by future-proofing the Expo line further east just in case it warrants it. For example, I could legitimately see us extending the Expo line to the area around the Langley Memorial hospital. But that would depend on how eager Langley is to densify to justify that extension as well as many other factors (and it is a very far flung future demand).