Expo Line - Surrey Langley Extension: Planning & Pre-Construction

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

What about it do you not like?

They fully cover the eastbound lanes, making it a bit tunnel-like.
The bents are the worst part of the M-Line guideway along Lougheed Highway, and this takes that form and repeats it for the storage track.

Originally Posted by officedweller

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/m...ts/media-resources/sls_roll_plot_web.pdf

Originally Posted by officedweller

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surrey-langley-skytrain-fraser-highway-widening


Eastbound view: Optimized SkyTrain design with four-lane Fraser Highway (mid block) between 140 Street and 96 Avenue through Green Timbers Urban Forest. (City of Surrey)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surrey-langley-skytrain-fraser-highway-widening

[Metro-One]

That stuff never bothers me, especially along such arteries, adds to the big urban area feel.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

That stuff never bothers me, especially along such arteries, adds to the big urban area feel.

Yup, there's nothing quite like that big urban feel right in the middle of a forest...

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Yup, there's nothing quite like that big urban feel right in the middle of a forest...

While I do find such structures more fitting in denser urban areas, such elevated rail structures running through farmland and and even pockets forest such as this are common place in East Asia and even much of Europe. Function over form I say, especially here where there are literally no neighbors for it to bother.

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Function over form I say, especially here where there are literally no neighbors for it to bother.

Someone is gonna move into a future development and start complaining about it, I guarantee it.

[scryer]

Originally Posted by cganuelas1995

Someone is gonna move into a future development and start complaining about it, I guarantee it.

Lol.

Yeah, having the elevated portion over a major arterial with no significant developments and neighbourhoods on either side is really a no-brainer for me .

[Aroundtheworld]

I think a general rule of thumb with viaducts is don't make a beautiful area ugly.

Now, if the area was ugly to begin with (Metrotown, Lougheed Hwy, Downtown Richmond, Coquitlam), go nuts!

[logicbomb]

So happy that both parties committed funding to this project. It was looking bleak a few months ago. 1 phase for the entire project is the way to go, there were a few prominent individuals suggesting otherwise but Fraser Hwy is only getting more congested and seeing massive growth between 178th and 192nd.

Originally Posted by jlove390

In the contract it says they’ll be doing a separate bid for 138th to 96th in late 2021 for a 2022 start. I’m surprised it’s not all being done at once.

From what I recall reading, there are a few technical challenges involved due to the terrain. There's a steep setback leading into a culvert on the south side of Fraser Hwy just EB on 140th. Additionally, the portion between 140th and 138th St will require property acquisition and retaining walls to be built on the south side near a old subsidized housing complex.

I just hope the proposal of 1.75m lane widths goes away. Should be min 2.2m. It's been studied that decreased lane widths in urban settings contribute to more fender benders.

[rpvan]

Property sales near proposed Surrey-to-Langley SkyTrain corridor higher than in surrounding areas
https://www.google.com/amp/s/vancouversu...0981f5c-6b3d-484a-90a8-918b23de041f/amp/

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

Now, if the area was ugly to begin with (Metrotown, Lougheed Hwy, Downtown Richmond, Coquitlam), go nuts!

The viaducts give a sort of cyberpunk feel to the area.

[MIPS]

So this is happening? Even post-election the funding is still guaranteed?
Are we really going to have a new line before 2030?

I'm in a little bit of disbelief that we are going to have this much rail expansion so soon after another expansion started.

[Migrant_Coconut]

It was always the plan to fund both at the same time. Only question is whether or not it can happen again (or if we're back to one SkyTrain every seven years).

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

It was always the plan to fund both at the same time. Only question is whether or not it can happen again (or if we're back to one SkyTrain every seven years).

Yeah, 2 lines at once should not be surprising for anyone. KG -> Fleetwood was always happening this decade. The Federal funding is ensuring it goes to Langley instead.

[SpongeG]

One of the comments on a post about this expansion to Langley was a woman complaining that it should have been LRT along KGH as originally planned and that no one needs to go to Langley on a Skytrain, we need to get around Surrey first.

Other negative comments were mostly about its getting too crowded in Surrey, Surrey is getting too big, I'm selling my house and leaving Surrey after being here for 37 years, blah blah blah. And many don't seem to understand that it is happening.

[bardak]

I think people are going to be rather surprised how fast this extension will be built. This is the first line without any tunneling since the Millenium line two decades ago. From what I remember both the above ground portions of the Canada line and Evergreen extension came together pretty quickly.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by bardak

I think people are going to be rather surprised how fast this extension will be built. This is the first line without any tunneling since the Millenium line two decades ago. From what I remember both the above ground portions of the Canada line and Evergreen extension came together pretty quickly.

They said it would take four years. That isn't surprisingly fast.. If they built it in two years that would be a surprise.

[officedweller]

The guideway will probably be up within 2 years, then track installation and operational testing.

[cganuelas1995]

Word on the street is that early construction has begun.

[Aroundtheworld]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

One of the comments on a post about this expansion to Langley was a woman complaining that it should have been LRT along KGH as originally planned and that no one needs to go to Langley on a Skytrain, we need to get around Surrey first.

Other negative comments were mostly about its getting too crowded in Surrey, Surrey is getting too big, I'm selling my house and leaving Surrey after being here for 37 years, blah blah blah. And many don't seem to understand that it is happening.

It's amazing how people have strong opinions about things they know little about. Every study I've seen has shown that rapid transit to Langely outperforms the L-shaped LRT. I mean, those studies showed that the LRT had a Benefit-Cost-Ratio of something like 0.7!

The projected ridership numbers for the Langley Skytrain are similar to those of the Evergreen extension. If you can justify that, you can justify this project.

[Migrant_Coconut]

All true, but it doesn't go right by their house and/or business, so obviously it's a bad idea.