Surrey Updates - Page 164

vanman · #**3261** Posted **Jun 11, 2021, 7:23 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Any chance it could be the taller tower in this rendering? Or were these renderings 100% place holders? Or will it be somewhat similar in form?

I think it is. 1.2 million sqft of office and commercial space is supposed to be built in the first phase of Centre Block. Hopefully the renderings by Hariri Pontarini Architects released are not just placeholders. Expensive high profile architects are not usually used at that stage of development are they?

Cypherus · #**3262** Posted **Jun 11, 2021, 11:09 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Really thought this would have made more of a stir on this forum than it has so far...

Any pic of the notice itself?

I live in Central City and no notice has been issued about a 225M tower or 740 footer. Very exciting, nonetheless, and I am sure this is the tower that "Shift" has been hinting at for awhile.

LeftCoaster · #**3263** Posted **Jun 11, 2021, 11:33 PM**

I doubt those are placeholders, they are likely conceptual design stage drawings that are being refined. If the project has legs, which I hope it does, the designs would likely be similar if they can pencil out that level of architecture.

Also not sure who they plan on putting in a 225m tower in Surrey, so colour me very skeptical, but I'm interested to hear more.

Changing City · #**3264** Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 12:59 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I doubt those are placeholders, they are likely conceptual design stage drawings that are being refined. If the project has legs, which I hope it does, the designs would likely be similar if they can pencil out that level of architecture.

Also not sure who they plan on putting in a 225m tower in Surrey, so colour me very skeptical, but I'm interested to hear more.

Unless I'm missing something, this project was being promoted by the Surrey City Development Corporation - which has being wound up, and absorbed into the City of Surrey. They hired Urban Strategies, from Toronto, who presumably hired the Toronto architects to generate a 'vision' of how the area could be developed.

In the same way that the City of Vancouver have submitted a rezoning for the Granville Loops, (albeit with no architectural design, just massing), presumably Surrey are doing something similar for the Centre Block.

Whether there's an actual tower, or towers, or tenants lined up remains to be revealed. There was a suggestion that the Federal Government might put all their staff in the area from various buildings into a single location in Surrey Centre - but they floated that idea for the Sinclair Centre in Downtown Vancouver, and then dropped it and scattered them around in a variety of new buildings, not all Downtown.

Shift · #**3265** Posted **Jun 13, 2021, 6:04 PM**

A few things on this:

The renderings posted aren't placeholders as far as i'm aware. Design however is always on-going through the application process (as with all projects) so subject to change.

Even though they are advancing the application (which is great) it doesn't mean it will necessarily be built any time soon. I've heard that the office market has taken a hit since covid, and that even Central City 2 is now struggling to find tenants to get off the ground. Both that project and this one will still work on advancing their applications in the background in anticipation of a rebound in the future. Once the market is ready, they will be in a position to build with all approvals and design in place.

Metro-One · #**3266** Posted **Jun 14, 2021, 3:03 AM**

Thanks for the info!

Nice to hear that the renderings are more than just placeholders because I love the general form of what we have seen so far.

Fingers crossed the tallest tower doesn’t sit in limbo for too long of a time. It would be a fantastic anchor for downtown Surrey.

Really is a shame such towers can’t be accepted for downtown Vancouver.

LeftCoaster · #**3267** Posted **Jun 14, 2021, 6:49 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Changing City

Unless I'm missing something, this project was being promoted by the Surrey City Development Corporation - which has being wound up, and absorbed into the City of Surrey. They hired Urban Strategies, from Toronto, who presumably hired the Toronto architects to generate a 'vision' of how the area could be developed.

In the same way that the City of Vancouver have submitted a rezoning for the Granville Loops, (albeit with no architectural design, just massing), presumably Surrey are doing something similar for the Centre Block.

Whether there's an actual tower, or towers, or tenants lined up remains to be revealed. There was a suggestion that the Federal Government might put all their staff in the area from various buildings into a single location in Surrey Centre - but they floated that idea for the Sinclair Centre in Downtown Vancouver, and then dropped it and scattered them around in a variety of new buildings, not all Downtown.

Well I believe it is a bit different as I understand it, since SDC is leading the rezoning and they are an actual developer who is looking to not just enact the zoning but to develop the site. The City of Vancouver is only looking to rezone then sell/partner with an actual developer who will implement their specific vision of the site.

I would think on the Surrey Central site there will be changes as the design progresses, as is the natural course, but that the general intent laid out by HPA will be adhered to unless economics/externalities render the plan unachievable.

Changing City · #**3268** Posted **Jun 14, 2021, 7:02 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Well I believe it is a bit different as I understand it, since SDC is leading the rezoning and they are an actual developer who is looking to not just enact the zoning but to develop the site. The City of Vancouver is only looking to rezone then sell/partner with an actual developer who will implement their specific vision of the site.

I would think on the Surrey Central site there will be changes as the design progresses, as is the natural course, but that the general intent laid out by HPA will be adhered to unless economics/externalities render the plan unachievable.

I know that was the idea a few years back. If you try searching for SDC on the City of Surrey website now, you get '404 - Page not Found'. About a year ago it was reported that the decision has been made by Surrey City Council to dissolve the Surrey City Development Corporation (SCDC) and transfer all of its assets and operations to the City of Surrey.

That seemed to suggest the site rezonings in Surrey and Vancouver are now similar exercises, unless the City of Surrey will be trying to develop the project themselves. The difference is that they have a legacy design from SDC, although how realistic the concept is in the market remains to be seen.

SpongeG · #**3269** Posted **Jun 14, 2021, 11:55 PM**

there is something going up on a site just off of 104th on 142 and 103a. The site has been getting cleared. Wish those random weird houses on 104th were part of it. anyone know what project is going onto that site?

Equinox71 · #**3270** Posted **Jun 15, 2021, 12:07 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG

there is something going up on a site just off of 104th on 142 and 103a. The site has been getting cleared. Wish those random weird houses on 104th were part of it. anyone know what project is going onto that site?

I believe you are referring to this: https://www.unisonliving.ca

LeftCoaster · #**3271** Posted **Jun 15, 2021, 12:51 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Changing City

I know that was the idea a few years back. If you try searching for SDC on the City of Surrey website now, you get '404 - Page not Found'. About a year ago it was reported that the decision has been made by Surrey City Council to dissolve the Surrey City Development Corporation (SCDC) and transfer all of its assets and operations to the City of Surrey.

That seemed to suggest the site rezonings in Surrey and Vancouver are now similar exercises, unless the City of Surrey will be trying to develop the project themselves. The difference is that they have a legacy design from SDC, although how realistic the concept is in the market remains to be seen.

Interesting, I didn't know they wound up SDC. Seems very odd to spend so much money on a City led rezoning then, those renderings and designs were not cheap. I bet those plans are still pretty aligned to the vision, but if they aren't developing themselves it's much more likely to change.

Edit: did a bit more digging and found this article: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surrey-city-development-corporation-dissolved

With this quote: The city has indicated there are no plans to sell any of SCDC properties beyond what has been identified in the company’s previously approved 2020 business plan.

But I find it tough to believe the City has the internal capacity to pull of a development of this magnitude.

SpongeG · #**3272** Posted **Jun 16, 2021, 12:50 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox71

I believe you are referring to this: https://www.unisonliving.ca

ah ok, I've seen the showroom but was wondering where it was getting built.

Cypherus · #**3273** Posted **Jun 16, 2021, 10:31 PM**

Clearing underway on the Lot of BlueSky's Bright Side Development. Phase 1 is the 38 storey residential rental tower.

rpvan · #**3274** Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 6:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cypherus

Clearing underway on the Lot of BlueSky's Bright Side Development. Phase 1 is the 38 storey residential rental tower.

I noticed that too.

The site is fairly easy to see on the university district webcam.

CoryHolmes · #**3275** Posted **Jun 19, 2021, 1:24 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpvan

I noticed that too.

The site is fairly easy to see on the university district webcam.

Ack! Peeping tom!

jlove390 · #**3276** Posted **Jun 23, 2021, 3:55 PM**

Health minister expects construction of Surrey’s new hospital in Cloverdale to begin in 2023, open in 2027

https://www.theprogress.com/news/health-...loverdale-to-begin-in-2023-open-in-2027/

SpongeG · #**3277** Posted **Jul 1, 2021, 7:00 AM**

signage has gone up for a new project going up on 108th and 138 across from Q5 on a vacant lot.

i think its called the Yorkton on 108th. Two 6-storey buildings

vancitypresales.com

Edit: That one above is not the right one. Even though the location makes sense its either changed or ?

This is the correct one for that location

https://syncproperties.com/hendrix/

SpongeG · #**3278** Posted **Jul 26, 2021, 4:37 AM**

I like the use of colour on this one, it's done now, has units for rent and for sale. The Camillia on 132 & 109.

2021-07-25_09-30-40 by snub_you, on Flickr

2021-07-25_09-30-22 by snub_you, on Flickr

EhJay · #**3279** Posted **Jul 26, 2021, 11:32 PM**

A retirement rental building too. Looks really nice with a tonne of amenties.

CoryHolmes · #**3280** Posted **Jul 27, 2021, 12:15 AM**

Development signs are up for the empty lot beside BrightSky by Bosa, for the Phase 3 part of the development.

Also it looks like digging for BrightSide has begun as well.