Downtown Vancouver Updates

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Klazu

And god bless Burnaby for that! Vancouverites keep voting ideological idiots on city council year after year, and here is the result. Burnaby should build a moat on its western border along Boundary Road.

i wonder how much money has been spent since 2010 on all this housing. whatever it was, clearly didn't work at all. with all that money spent, youd think things would have gotten worse.

2010 - 1,294 sheltered homeless, 421 unsheltered homeless = 1,715
2020 - 1,548 sheltered homeless, 547 unsheltered homeless = 2,095

sounds like tons of $$$ was spent, and things got worse; interesting...

there was also a huge spike between 2008 and 2010, i wonder what happened in 2008/2009ish. anyone know?

Originally Posted by Changing City

There was an 80% increase in the number of homeless in Burnaby between 2017 and 2020, and a 2% drop in Vancouver. You must be so proud.

and Burnaby has Vancouver to thank for that. they keep encouraging people to show up, so they do. Vancouver is single handedly contributing to the issues of other cities around the lower mainland.

P.S. the definition of "vagrant" - "a person without a settled home or regular work who wanders from place to place and lives by begging." sounds like a good descriptor to me, well except many also thieve, assault people, do drugs, overdose and tax our healthcare system by using up all the paramedics because they choose to overdose. maybe you are right, it isn't a good descriptor afterall...

[Changing City]

Alright! time to stop this thread diversion into homelessness and swimming pools.

Vancouver Market report that 815 Hornby (Mayfair House, completed in 1980) has sold for $93 million to Reliance Holdings. It's a 6-storey office, so they probably didn't buy it for the current income. It looks as if development might get to 280 feet before hitting a viewcone, and it looks like it's in area 'H' of the DD zoning, which allows 6.0 FSR total, and up to 3 FSR can be residential. It seems reasonable to anticipate a rezoning at some point. (I'd be trying to buy the Wedgewood Hotel to add that to the site). Cue the frustrated comments about viewcones and possible shadowing in three... two... one...

[officedweller]

There would be shadowing restrictions over Robson Square - ie Robson Court office building and Infinity (SportChek). Electric Ave. would probably have set a later precedent as to what is allowed.

Nice prominent site that hopefully will have landmark retail.

[dleung]

The existing building if you really squint could be a poor man's stub of some of Paul Rudolph's later work (ie Concourse in Singapore)

[officedweller]

I've always like the steps on that building.
The shoulder of 800 Burrard would also provide existing shadows they could hide behind.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

He who smelt it, dealt it.



No, just most of them.

City Hall also wants to replace the Kerrisdale and Britannica pools, $45m each, and Connaught, $92m. The VAC replacement will cost $94m.

UBC only needs $40 million for one pool, and doesn't have to worry about sewers, parks or transportation; multiple pools with only a tenth of their surplus would take a long time for them as well. The Y at Langara already had to cancel a move to Pearson-Dogwood because it didn't have the funding.



There's only one poster confusing the two. But we are now completely off-topic.

Wrong:
78,000 international students enroll here in BC. There are 66,000 UBC students. If most of the international students go to UBC, then I suppose
60%-70% of UBC students are international?

UBC does not have to worry about the items you stated because it was set up that way. Vancouver's broken system clearly does not work, when not even one of the pools you mentioned is replaced in recent years, despite developers paying CDCs.

Please find better excuses for Vancouver's failure in building this city, including downtown.

Originally Posted by Changing City

Alright! time to stop this thread diversion into homelessness and swimming pools.

Vancouver Market report that 815 Hornby (Mayfair House, completed in 1980) has sold for $93 million to Reliance Holdings. It's a 6-storey office, so they probably didn't buy it for the current income. It looks as if development might get to 280 feet before hitting a viewcone, and it looks like it's in area 'H' of the DD zoning, which allows 6.0 FSR total, and up to 3 FSR can be residential. It seems reasonable to anticipate a rezoning at some point. (I'd be trying to buy the Wedgewood Hotel to add that to the site). Cue the frustrated comments about viewcones and possible shadowing in three... two... one...

Funny the one who contributes the most to this discussion starts yelling for others to stop, especially when he has no more words to the counter arguments. Well, so be it, let's stop this, as per your request.

[Vin]

Watch out for the decision on this end of the month. This is one project I am looking forward to:

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/city-of-vancouver-...elopment-near-bc-place-stadium-1.5437041

This will hopefully end the shabbiness of the area, especially when there are no events happening at BC Place Stadium

[jollyburger]

Crestpoint paid $250 million for 800 Burrard

https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-...wntown-vancouver-office-building-3830810

Nelson Skalbania's ex-wife founded Wedgewood.. daughters still own it.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Vin

Wrong:
78,000 international students enroll here in BC. There are 66,000 UBC students. If most of the international students go to UBC, then I suppose
60%-70% of UBC students are international?

UBC does not have to worry about the items you stated because it was set up that way. Vancouver's broken system clearly does not work, when not even one of the pools you mentioned is replaced in recent years, despite developers paying CDCs.

Please find better excuses for Vancouver's failure in building this city, including downtown.

The Tyee is not a reliable source of information. Click the link to the study (I'll make it easy) and you'll find the "reporter" made a typo - it's 58k in the province as of 2017, and UBC's got nearly as many as Langara and SFU put together.

And because they've got less responsibilities, they have more money for capital projects. Find better excuses to derail a perfectly good thread just to hate on the CoV.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

The Tyee is not a reliable source of information. Click the link to the study (I'll make it easy) and you'll find the "reporter" made a typo - it's 58k in the province as of 2017, and UBC's got nearly as many as Langara and SFU put together.

And because they've got less responsibilities, they have more money for capital projects. Find better excuses to derail a perfectly good thread just to hate on the CoV.

In their original budget pre-Covid domestic students revenue was nearly $400 million and $555 million for International.

https://finance.ubc.ca/sites/finserv.ubc.ca/files/Budget-2020-21.pdf

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

In their original budget pre-Covid domestic students revenue was nearly $400 million and $555 million for International.

https://finance.ubc.ca/sites/finserv.ubc.ca/files/Budget-2020-21.pdf

Kinda my point - 21% of students bring in 58% of the revenue. No wonder they want more.

[Sheba]

Cambie Bridge turning into digital-analogue world of Voxel Bridge

The underside of the Cambie Bridge is about to be transformed into the unique digital world of Voxel Bridge. Part of the Vancouver Biennale, Voxel Bridge will exist both as a physical analogue art work and an online digital one.

The public art installation is by Jessica Angel. When it’s fully operational, Voxel Bridge will have several non-fungible tokens called NFTs that exist in an interactive 3-D world that uses blockchain technology. The intention is to create a fully immersive installation. Voxel Bridge is being described as the largest digital public art installation of its kind.

“To my knowledge, nothing has been done at this scale outdoors that’s fully interactive,” said Sammi Wei, the Vancouver Biennale‘s operations director. “Once the digital world is built in your phone, you’ll be able to walk around objects. When you touch one, it kind of vibrates.”

Just as a pixel refers to a point in a two-dimensional world, voxel refers to a similar unit in a 3-D world.

Voxel Bridge will be about itself: it will tell the story of what it means to use new decentralized technology called blockchain to create Voxel Bridge.

Starting Monday, a crew will begin installing a vinyl overlay directly on the architecture on the underside of the bridge deck, around the columns, and underfoot on the sidewalk from West 2nd to the parking-lot road. Enclosing a space of about 18,000 square feet, the vinyl layer will be visible without any digital enhancement. It will look like an off-kilter circuit board.

“It’ll be like you’re standing in the middle of a circuit board,” she said. “At the same time, the visual perception will be slightly off. It’s like an optical illusion. You feel the ground is not quite where it’s supposed to be.”

To access the second, digital layer of Voxel Bridge, users will have to download a Vancouver Biennale app that is expected to be available this month. By July, Voxel Bridge will be operational and accessible to anyone with a smartphone, iPad or tablet. The app will have a scanner designed to read markers that resemble QR codes. The markers will be on the vinyl layer on the ground. Once you’re in the digital layer, you’ll be able to move your phone to see digital objects that appear to float and interact.

“They’ll be moving, animated and interactive, so you can touch these objects through your phone,” Wei said. “They’ll show you messages, videos, as well as visualization of live data being in real time.”

...

Voxel Bridge is a temporary installation until 2023.

[Lexus]

2021, June 5

Please advice if these is more appropriate thread for this photo.

Untitled by Lexus LX570, on Flickr

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Lexus

2021, June 5

Please advice if these is more appropriate thread for this photo.

There's a Vancouver Photography thread

[mcminsen]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Four tower rezoning proposed for the Granville Loops. Two 40 storey, two 27-storey and 2 12 storey blocks. Some details on Changing City Blog. Rezoning here.

June 5 '21, my pics

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

The Tyee is not a reliable source of information. Click the link to the study (I'll make it easy) and you'll find the "reporter" made a typo - it's 58k in the province as of 2017, and UBC's got nearly as many as Langara and SFU put together.

And because they've got less responsibilities, they have more money for capital projects. Find better excuses to derail a perfectly good thread just to hate on the CoV.

You also forgot the 10s of thousands of international students attending elementary and high schools in Vancouver, not to mention more in private and public colleges, eg ESL schools, all over Vancouver. And yet downtown can't afford a new decent swimming pool.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

June 5 '21, my pics

Would be lovely to include retail at the podium. Granville street and side alleys need to have a continuation of retail all the way down to the Vancouver House mixed-used neighbourhood.

The heights of these towers are appropriate in this neighbourhood, but I can't see why the City can't do the same treatment across the bridge, West Broadway or in the centre of West End. Why just squeeze all the towers into this neighbourhood? That doesn't make sense at all.

[LeftCoaster]

The podiums do include retail.

The plan seems fine to me, nothing exciting and could be a bit more dense/tall. Keep buildings B&C shorter flanking Granville but boost up A&D. Likely a while off getting to a DP stage though.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Vin

You also forgot the 10s of thousands of international students attending elementary and high schools in Vancouver, not to mention more in private and public colleges, eg ESL schools, all over Vancouver. And yet downtown can't afford a new decent swimming pool.

Who is 'downtown' who can't afford a new decent swimming pool? If you mean The City of Vancouver, or the Parks Board, how do they get money off these 10s of thousands of international students to pay for a swimming pool? UBC charge the students who attend there fat fees, and they can spend some on facilities. The VSB get any fees that international students pay to attend public schools. The Park Board doesn't see a single cent of those fees.

[whatnext]

The whole downtown-Granville Bridge area has future slum written all over it. With the disorder and theft in the area you'd need your head examined if you choose to live there. If you want that kind of setting close to downtown live in North Van where you're just a short Seabus ride to work.

I also think it's hilarious that the same people who moan about viewcones only benefiting those travelling by car fall for the city's malarkey about "gateway towers" that are only really appreciated by car.