Story of Rideau & Chapel [151+153 Chapel St] | 78+84m | 25+26f | U/C

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by eltodesukane

2020 November 14
A lot cables...

It's a wonder that there will be any concrete at all in that slab!

[bartlebooth]

I was in the area last night and they have parts of the structure (columns, walls) poured on the ground floor. Almost higher than the motel next door already, haha.

[RideauRat]

I just noticed - this is going up at 107.3m that's metropole height!!

[alamgirkhan]

Originally Posted by RideauRat

I just noticed - this is going up at 107.3m that's metropole height!!

It’s not. The heights were reduced for both towers. The tallest will be about 80 metres.

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%...and%20East%20APPROVED-D07-12-19-0064.PDF

[RideauRat]

Originally Posted by alamgirkhan

It’s not. The heights were reduced for both towers. The tallest will be about 80 metres.

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%...and%20East%20APPROVED-D07-12-19-0064.PDF

the high was good while it lasted

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by alamgirkhan

It’s not. The heights were reduced for both towers. The tallest will be about 80 metres.

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%...and%20East%20APPROVED-D07-12-19-0064.PDF

Those are some shady height measurements. The "ground floor" designation of both towers in those elevations are a full floor above the actual ground. Why isn't that height being counted?

I've adjusted the data in the thread title accordingly to: 78/84m & 25/26f

[UrbOttawa]

From reddit (sorry for the size, I have no idea how to adjust - if only this forum wasn't stuck in the 90's...)



https://www.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments/liatf6/lower_town/

[rocketphish]

LaSalle Investment Management buys into Trinity's Rideau & Chapel rental housing project

By: OBJ staff
Published: Mar 10, 2021 12:36pm EST



A Chicago-based real estate investment firm with a major Ottawa footprint has bought a significant stake in a downtown rental apartment development.

LaSalle Investment Management said Tuesday its flagship Canadian real estate fund, LaSalle Canada Property Fund, has purchased a 47.5 per cent interest in a project that will see a pair of 25-storey highrises constructed on the northeast corner of Rideau and Chapel streets. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Trinity Development Group and Toronto-based Hazelview Investments (formerly Timbercreek Equities Corp.) are the other partners in the development, which is located just a few blocks east of the Rideau Centre and the Rideau LRT station.

The first tower, which will include 315 rental suites ranging from studio apartments to two-bedroom units as well as about 9,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space, is now under construction and is slated to be completed in late 2022.

The second proposed highrise would have 318 apartments and would be constructed behind the first tower, which faces Rideau Street. The complex would also have 477 parking spaces, almost all of them underground.

LaSalle Investment Management is no stranger to the Ottawa real estate scene.

In 2018, the company acquired a one-third stake in the three-building Minto Place complex in Centretown, and the firm also owns the Holland Cross development at the corner of Scott Street and Holland Avenue. Last summer, LaSalle filed plans to build a 29-storey highrise with 337 residential units and ground-floor commercial space at the Holland Cross complex.

https://www.obj.ca/index.php/article/rea...ement-buys-trinitys-rideau-chapel-rental

[J.OT13]

It started out as a very interesting project under Claridge, of all developers. It then became a solid Trinity project. And now, it's just another bland series of towers on Rideau. Shades of 1960 Scott.

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Looks even worse when appearing next to Minto Metropole.


https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...-shuttle-being-tested-at-tunneys-pasture

The original proposal presented by Trinity.

Originally Posted by rocketphish

More renderings:

[Urbanarchit]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

It started out as a very interesting project under Claridge, of all developers. It then became a solid Trinity project. And now, it's just another bland series of towers on Rideau. Shades of 1960 Scott.



The original proposal presented by Trinity.

It makes me weary of supporting anything when such bait-and-switches are allowed to go through. The City approved one building, one that was presented and marketed towards them approving it despite it conflicting with the CDP, and then it gets changed to look like something different that has a worse design. :S How is this allowed?

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by Urbanarchit

It makes me weary of supporting anything when such bait-and-switches are allowed to go through. The City approved one building, one that was presented and marketed towards them approving it despite it conflicting with the CDP, and then it gets changed to look like something different that has a worse design. :S How is this allowed?

It has become a copy paste Roderick Lazy design to boot. I think in 30 years his firm's buildings will be the equivalent of the ubiquitous ugly brutalist concrete apartment blocks in this city today. Ugly, uniform and omnipresent.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Harley613

It has become a copy paste Roderick Lazy design to boot. I think in 30 years his firm's buildings will be the equivalent of the ubiquitous ugly brutalist concrete apartment blocks in this city today. Ugly, uniform and omnipresent.

Yup. The modern version of Commie Blocks. Add a lot of Claridge works like CP I-IV and the monstrosities proposed on Robinson by the Montreal developer.

[Uhuniau]

What's the aesthetic problem?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

What's the aesthetic problem?

It's extremely basic compared to what was originally proposed. It was supposed to be a original and exciting project, but we ended up with more of the same.

It's not ugly per se, just mediocre.

[Sauvanto]

I don't get why people are complaining about all this architecture and those designs as if everyone hates it, I know a lot of people who are fans of those projects and I personally really like functionalist and simplistic international/modern architecture for highrise. I'm really happy to see these designs go through instead of over complicated and elaborate ultra-modern styles with ornamentation and a bunch of details.

[J.OT13]

A few of these plain and fictional high-rises are fine, but that's nearly all that's built in Ottawa. And if that's the plan, present it as so from the start, don't pretend you'll build a sleek new tower during the approval process and then change the design after approval.

These mediocre towers should also offer cheaper rents, but I'm not sure that's the case.

[Sauvanto]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

, but that's nearly all that's built in Ottawa.

It has to be; it's the quickest, simplest and cheapest way to reach the goal of new builds set by the province. There's an housing crisis in Ontario, and Ottawa isn't immune to it.
There needs to be more new built units available to drive the prices of old rental units down, and if changing the designs after approval is the way to keep costs down while providing new housing, then I'm in.

[GeoNerd]

Originally Posted by Sauvanto

I don't get why people are complaining about all this architecture and those designs as if everyone hates it, I know a lot of people who are fans of those projects and I personally really like functionalist and simplistic international/modern architecture for highrise. I'm really happy to see these designs go through instead of over complicated and elaborate ultra-modern styles with ornamentation and a bunch of details.

You are definitely part of a tiny minority if you like RLA designed buildings. There is a big difference between functionalist/simplistic international/modern architecture for highrise and just cheap bland architecture that hasn't been given much thought outside of profit margins. RLA has made a business out of regurgitating the same cheap buildings with minor tweaks over and over again. Developers like RLA because they're cheap and efficient, not because of their style.

Also, I can't think of one highrise in this entire city that would qualify as being "over complicated and elaborate ultra-modern styles with ornamentation and a bunch of details". The people in this city want and deserve good architecture. No more gray and white RLA cheapo sky boxes!

[Sauvanto]

Originally Posted by GeoNerd

You are definitely part of a tiny minority if you like RLA designed buildings.

Hmmm not sure about that; I doubt that people outside the architecture/urban community of this forum care, I think that most are content with efficient and simple styles. There are no facts I could find supporting this however.

Originally Posted by GeoNerd

Developers like RLA because they're cheap and efficient, not because of their style.

Exactly, and that's perfectly fine. For me it's a win-win-win, the low price of construction is appealing to developers, they're efficient to provide a lot of housing quickly, and I find them appealing.

Originally Posted by GeoNerd

No more gray and white RLA cheapo sky boxes!

[/QUOTE]

Is there any other highrise styles that fit your taste that also have:
- A low construction and maintenance cost (keep in mind these highrises need to be rental units)?
- Quick construction?
- Very high-density housing?

[GeoNerd]

Is there any other highrise styles that fit your taste that also have:
- A low construction and maintenance cost (keep in mind these highrises need to be rental units)?
- Quick construction?
- Very high-density housing?

Are you suggesting that RLA's gray and white cookie-cutter building design is the only design that is efficient and cost effective???? That is the most outlandish comment I've ever heard. There are countless styles and designs that are efficient and cost effective. Choose almost any design style and repeat it 30 times throughout the city and it will be cost effective. RLA's designs are just lazy. You might be the only person I've ever heard that is a fan.