Atlanta Project Thread IV

[3yonce]

Originally Posted by megalopolis

Interesting article about the proposed Midtown Art Walk.

https://atlantaintownpaper.com/2020/12/g...ransformed-into-todays-midtown-art-walk/

Does anyone know who owns the land where the proposed linear park on 12th Street is located?

https://ctycms.com/ga-midtown/docs/midtown-art-walk-concept.pdf

To make this park a reality, the city would have to buy it, I assume?

A lot of the property is owned by the Peachtree Walk condos just to the south. Selig currently owns the lot at the corner of 12th and West Peachtree that they're using to stage work for 1105 West Peachtree, though I thought I remember seeing that they were hoping to reroute 12th through it to line up with the segment of 12th Street across West Peachtree. According to the Atlanta GIS, the remaining properties are owned by Kartos, John L.

[megalopolis]

Yeah, you're right; it appears that concrete, windowless building on the southwest corner of 12th and Peachtree Walk is owned by Peachtree Walk condos. Does anyone know what function it serves? Is it a maintenance facility for the condos?

It'd be great if they could straighten out 12th Street at that intersection with West Peachtree, but that would mean doing away with the park idea. The park is probably a pipe dream anyway. Acquiring that land would be expensive, but I wonder if the city could use eminent domain if the purpose was to straighten out 12th Street.

[RATBOYKEV]

Originally Posted by megalopolis

Yeah, you're right; it appears that concrete, windowless building on the southwest corner of 12th and Peachtree Walk is owned by Peachtree Walk condos. Does anyone know what function it serves? Is it a maintenance facility for the condos?

I was always under the impression that the structure your talking about is a ventilation/access bldg for MARTA which runs directly below and is the midpoint between the 10th St & Arts Center stations. It sure does have the matching architectural style of the stations.

[NiffTheFox]

Originally Posted by RATBOYKEV

I was always under the impression that the structure your talking about is a ventilation/access bldg for MARTA which runs directly below and is the midpoint between the 10th St & Arts Center stations. It sure does have the matching architectural style of the stations.

Oh wow. I would have assumed that as well, but if the building is owned by the condos and fans aren't for MARTA ventilation, then it seems likely it is for HVAC. It looks like the sign on the door (from google street view) says Chiller Room, which would be consistent with that guess.

[ATLarchitect]

Originally Posted by NiffTheFox

Oh wow. I would have assumed that as well, but if the building is owned by the condos and fans aren't for MARTA ventilation, then it seems likely it is for HVAC. It looks like the sign on the door (from google street view) says Chiller Room, which would be consistent with that guess.

It definitely is mechanical ventilation as well as fire access for the MARTA tunnel that runs underground at that location. Anything that gets built on that lot would need to straddle the tunnel similar to the way the Nine15 Midtown apartment building does (https://goo.gl/maps/8YYjk9g7KMtjC9Um8) which doesn't seem feasible given the small lot size. Likely why this hasn't yet been developed and is the ideal location for new park space.

[sbrptree]

Originally Posted by ATLarchitect

It definitely is mechanical ventilation as well as fire access for the MARTA tunnel that runs underground at that location. Anything that gets built on that lot would need to straddle the tunnel similar to the way the Nine15 Midtown apartment building does (https://goo.gl/maps/8YYjk9g7KMtjC9Um8) which doesn't seem feasible given the small lot size. Likely why this hasn't yet been developed and is the ideal location for new park space.

The structure is NOT part of the PW condos....see the City's parcel maps.

The realignment of 12th at West Peachtree has already been initiated if you see how the sales office trailer (for the 1105 condos) and moving of utility poles at that intersection align. It will not be a straight line but an "S" curve similar to how 11th street was realigned between Peachtree and Juniper when the Loewes / condo tower block was constructed.

Here's a quote from a recent article: "During construction, Selig is also realigning a portion of 12th and West Peachtree Streets to better improve Midtown’s street grid. The company has done this twice before with other projects, at 11th and Peachtree Streets and 12th Street and Crescent Avenue.

“This falls into our long-term commitment of doing right for the neighborhood and providing the best experience for future tenants, residents and all the visitors that find Midtown very attractive,” Baile said."

[NiffTheFox]

Originally Posted by sbrptree

The structure is NOT part of the PW condos....see the City's parcel maps.
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Well, that makes more sense. FWIW, I tried looking for old photos of midtown dating back before the condos were build but after MARTA, and I did find a mid 80s shot that seemed to show the structure existing back then, but given the poor resolution

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by ATLarchitect

It definitely is mechanical ventilation as well as fire access for the MARTA tunnel that runs underground at that location. Anything that gets built on that lot would need to straddle the tunnel similar to the way the Nine15 Midtown apartment building does (https://goo.gl/maps/8YYjk9g7KMtjC9Um8) which doesn't seem feasible given the small lot size. Likely why this hasn't yet been developed and is the ideal location for new park space.

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the peachtree walk apartments seem to have individual AC condensers on the balconies as well, not a shared office building type system.

[montydawg]

Originally Posted by cabasse

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the peachtree walk apartments seem to have individual AC condensers on the balconies as well, not a shared office building type system.

I know for a fact that cement structure is the MARTA line fire access/fire escape/emergency air fan for the underground tunnel, and that piece of land is owned by MARTA. They successfully integrated one of these into new construction with the residential/hotel built a few years ago near the puppetry arts center, however, this site is pretty limited in potential other than a park. I'm sure it will be a good amenity for dog walkers for years to come in the neighborhood.

[gt7348b]

The property at 41 12th Street is indeed a MARTA fan hatch and chiller. Now that MARTA's art program is in the Real Estate/TOD/Arts office, there may an opportunity to paint it or turn the grass area into a pocket park if security can be satisfied. (Full disclosure - I used to work in MARTA's real estate office).

[ATLarchitect]

Originally Posted by cabasse

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the peachtree walk apartments seem to have individual AC condensers on the balconies as well, not a shared office building type system.

What I meant by my comment was mechanical ventilation and fire access FOR MARTA - sorry if that was unclear. It would be very unusual for multifamily to not be individual split systems for the purposes of sub metering and passing the costs along to tenants.

Again, it'd be quite difficult to develop on top of without straddling it like Nine15 Midtown does (https://goo.gl/maps/8YYjk9g7KMtjC9Um8) so here's hoping for some nice murals and pocket park.

[gt7348b]

It is a little interesting why Nine15 has that weird arch over subway box. If you look through the gates in between the emergency exits, you can see there is something between the water feature with three trees on either side. You can't really see it in the aerial since the court yard is in the shadow, but it was very visible when that location was the AGL surface parking lot. That is part of the emergency system fire tunnel safety system to vent smoke in case of a fire. (You can also find one in front the 100 Peachtree - it is the weird circle thing in front of the building). MARTA occasionally needs to replace the large fans, and the arch from Peachtree Pl allows them to send in a small crane to lift out the equipment.

It is possible to build flush with street level over the MARTA subway box, it just takes a lot of coordination with MARTA so that the locations of MARTA's electrical equipment and other infrastructure is known. Two other recent examples within the past 5-6 years are the Benz and Atlantic House (or whatever that Novare building is on West Peachtree across from Whole Foods). Not to mention the ongoing proposals at North Avenue and Arts Center.

[dmbolp]

Originally Posted by dmbolp

Anyone know what's going on at the Bank of America building at North & Peachtree? There was a tree removal notice until last week. All trees at the east entrance are marked with a big orange "X". There are 2 rows of 6 trees that line the entrance way. I think at least one of them has been dead for awhile, no green leaves during the summer. Maybe redoing the garage entrance and drop-off area, as it get's congested? Maybe a new outdoor space?

Saw they have a water leaking problem with the underground garage (grass roof), so all trees will need to be removed in order to repair

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by dmbolp

Saw they have a water leaking problem with the underground garage (grass roof), so all trees will need to be removed in order to repair

The plaza is being redone to be more useable. The Downtown DRC reviewed it late last year.

[shivtim]

Came across this model of the orginal proposal for Promenade, in the mid 1980s.


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[shivtim]

Lots of fascinating things on this tumblr. Unfortunately its no longer updated.


Gateway Center Mall, proposed for 10th and Peachtree in 1988.

[SteveD]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Came across this model of the orginal proposal for Promenade, in the mid 1980s.


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I remember that well.....

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Home building giant Toll Brothers wants to build hundreds of luxury apartments and townhomes near the Edgewood-Candler MARTA station as it continues its expansion into the Atlanta market.

Pennsylvania-based Toll Brothers filed a Development of Regional Impact, or DRI, on Jan. 11 with the state department of Community Affairs for its "Project Tulip" to be built at 285 Mayson Ave., south of DeKalb Avenue. The project would include approximately 450 apartments; 275 townhomes and condominiums; and 10,000 square feet of retail space. It would be adjacent to the Edgewood-Candler transit-oriented development now under construction, a multi-phase project with more than 400 apartments, including more than 50 set aside as affordable housing; a performing arts centers; and commercial and office space.


The 11-acre industrial site on Mayson Avenue is owned by Edward Fine Foods, renowned for its pies, and valued at $4.6 million, according to online DeKalb County property records. "The fact that the site is immediately adjacent to the Candler Park MARTA station is very significant to us – as it will be to our future residents and homeowners," he said.

[3yonce]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

That's definitely a much better use of land right next to a Marta station, but I'm going to miss the smell of pies on my morning commute...

[shivtim]

Big news for the westside. Apple is helping to fund the Propel Center, "...aimed at offering technology skills and education to students at HBCUs. Apple said the project will establish two grants to help faculty build curriculum, research and lab space. It'll also fund 100 new scholarships."

Apple is working with Southern Company and a range of community stakeholders to support the launch of the Propel Center, a first-of-its-kind innovation and learning hub for the HBCU community. Apple’s $25 million contribution will enable the Propel Center to support HBCU students and faculty through a robust virtual platform, a physical campus in the historic Atlanta University Center, as well as on-campus activations at partner institutions.
The center is designed to support the next generation of diverse leaders, providing innovative curricula, technology support, career opportunities, and fellowship programs. The Propel Center will offer a wide range of educational tracks, including AI and machine learning, agricultural technologies, social justice, entertainment arts, app development, augmented reality, design and creative arts, career preparation, and entrepreneurship. Experts from Apple will help develop curricula and provide ongoing mentorship and learning support, along with offering internship opportunities.