stal̕əw̓asəm (Riverview) Bridge (Pattullo Bridge Replacement) | U/C

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by bloomtronzero

I think it shouldn't be controversial giving it a new name. The old bridge was named after the dude, not all future bridges.

Yeah, when the old Connaught bridge was torn down we gave its replacement the very poetic and lyrical name of "Cambie St. Bridge".

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Fifty bucks on Terry Fox - high name recognition, low controversy.

Not to disparage the guy and his positive legacy, but I think he might have enough named after him. I wouldn't mind seeing a lesser known but important Vancouverite getting some honour. How about the Foon Sien Bridge or David Lam Bridge?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Not to disparage the guy and his positive legacy, but I think he might have enough named after him. I wouldn't mind seeing a lesser known but important Vancouverite getting some honour. How about the Foon Sien Bridge or David Lam Bridge?

Sure. If it's an East Asian we're going for, Bing Thom qualifies too.

Though Lam's already got a park.

[Metro-One]

I think it should be named after my Grandpa, hard working (logging and dock yards) Vancouver born Italian man who was low on the societal ladder yet was able to open his own boxing school (that Ali would sometimes frequent), fought in WW2, etc...

I guess in today’s age Italian is now white but I feel he ticks off enough victim and hardship boxes. And he ain’t got no parks or bridges or roads named after him.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Not to disparage the guy and his positive legacy, but I think he might have enough named after him. I wouldn't mind seeing a lesser known but important Vancouverite getting some honour. How about the Foon Sien Bridge or David Lam Bridge?

No

[trofirhen]

My issue regarding naming bridges and other infrastructure is often, simply, why does it have to be named after anyone at all?
Who remembers who Duff Pattullo was? Some do, yes, most, not at all. Arthur Laing? .... Infrastructure seems often better named after the function it serves rather than a 'current' politician in charge. No disrespect to Arthur Laing, but 'Airport Bridge' may have been a better epithet. What function (linking traffic from where to where) does the new 'Pattullo' serve?
Perhaps a name centred on that might be better, such as simply (and succinctly) The New Westminster Bridge. Just an idea.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

My issue regarding naming bridges and other infrastructure is often, simply, why does it have to be named after anyone at all?
Who remembers who Duff Pattullo was? Some do, yes, most, not at all. Arthur Laing? .... Infrastructure seems often better named after the function it serves rather than a 'current' politician in charge. No disrespect to Arthur Laing, but 'Airport Bridge' may have been a better epithet. What function (linking traffic from where to where) does the new 'Pattullo' serve?
Perhaps a name centred on that might be better, such as simply (and succinctly) The New Westminster Bridge. Just an idea.

I agree with that sentiment but I think people like giving a more unique name to a bridge. At least something more original than the nearest municipality. Just please, anything other than a 6 syllable name.

(Oh and also there's already a "New Westminster Bridge", it's the rail bridge beside the Patullo)

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I think it should be named after my Grandpa, hard working (logging and dock yards) Vancouver born Italian man who was low on the societal ladder yet was able to open his own boxing school (that Ali would sometimes frequent), fought in WW2, etc...

I guess in today’s age Italian is now white but I feel he ticks off enough victim and hardship boxes. And he ain’t got no parks or bridges or roads named after him.

It would only make sense for his name to be a candidate if enough people considered it a name worth honouring! Not sure why you're bringing race into this. It's just a name after all.

[officedweller]

I think Terry Fox will be on the new $5 bill.

Wrong thread, but imagine if the new Massey crossing is not named after Massey.
i.e revert to Deas Island Tunnel.

[Mininari]

Deleted. Wrong thread.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I think Terry Fox will be on the new $5 bill.

Wrong thread, but imagine if the new Massey crossing is not named after Massey.
i.e revert to Deas Island Tunnel.

Probably no one would care since so many people still call it the Deas Island Tunnel. I can imagine a simple name like "North-South Connector Tunnel" in the same vein as the East-West Connector working.

[Metro-One]

If any crossing deserves to retain he name it is George Massey since that was essentially his pet project from conception to completion (note that he wanted 6 lanes instead of 4 when built...). Can’t think of a more direct relation to a structure than that for naming. Doesn’t matter if no one knows who he is IMO.

[Nites]

Some company will probably take naming rights of the bridge. Soon enough it will be called "The Telus Bridge".

[Mininari]

Originally Posted by Nites

Some company will probably take naming rights of the bridge. Soon enough it will be called "The Telus Bridge".

Wrong government in power for that!

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Probably no one would care since so many people still call it the Deas Island Tunnel.

they do??? i have literally never heard 1 single person call it that. other than in this thread on this website.

everyone i know calls it "The Massey Tunnel"

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

they do??? i have literally never heard 1 single person call it that. other than in this thread on this website.

everyone i know calls it "The Massey Tunnel"

I know my dad does sometimes, he was around during the period it was called the Deas Island Tunnel.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by chowhou

I know my dad does sometimes, he was around during the period it was called the Deas Island Tunnel.

Irrespective of any name reference undertones, I stll think that "Deas Island Tunnel" sounds, phonetically speaking, more dynamic and interesting than "George Massey."
The George Massey name, though, lends a distant but still present aristocratic' Canadian echo. A matter of preference.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I think it should be named after my Grandpa, hard working (logging and dock yards) Vancouver born Italian man who was low on the societal ladder yet was able to open his own boxing school (that Ali would sometimes frequent), fought in WW2, etc...

I guess in today’s age Italian is now white but I feel he ticks off enough victim and hardship boxes. And he ain’t got no parks or bridges or roads named after him.

The issue isn't so much he was a white guy, as he was a very racist white guy with documented cases over admitting Jewish and Chinese people to BC. Had he not been turfed as Liberal leader two days after Pearl Harbour you can bet he'd have been leading the charge for the Japanese internment.

The bridge isn't named after him because he was a brilliant premier but because he was premier when the bridge was built. Without looking it up, can anyone name the premiers that preceded or followed him? The Patullo name was applied to that specific structure, not every bridge built there in perpetuity.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by whatnext

The issue isn't so much he was a white guy, as he was a very racist white guy with documented cases over admitting Jewish and Chinese people to BC. Had he not been turfed as Liberal leader two days after Pearl Harbour you can bet he'd have been leading the charge for the Japanese internment.

The bridge isn't named after him because he was a brilliant premier but because he was premier when the bridge was built. Without looking it up, can anyone name the premiers that preceded or followed him? The Patullo name was applied to that specific structure, not every bridge built there in perpetuity.

I think you have pinpointed it here. Right on.

[scottN]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I think you have pinpointed it here. Right on.

I fully agree. A new name for a new structure is not controversial at all.

How about the "McCallum - Cote Friendship Bridge"?

[Dave2]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Without looking it up, can anyone name the premiers that preceded or followed him?

Before: John Oliver, John Duncan Maclean, Simon Fraser Tolmie
After: John Hart, Byron "Boss" Johnson, WAC Bennett

(I agree, most people today wouldn't know any of them other than Bennett).