Métro City Condos | ?m | 3 x 20 fl | Proposed - Page 10

thistleclub · #**181** Posted **May 12, 2019, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

That's a pretty big lop off the top.

In honour of the silent aigu.

TheRitsman · #**182** Posted **Jan 20, 2020, 6:06 AM**

Anyone seen any updates on this proposal? My understanding that was this reduction was to appease the city?

LRTfan · #**183** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 1:55 AM**

This project has now been scaled down to 22-23 storey buildings.... losing a ton of valuable urban housing units because NIMBYs are in charge.
Oh, and visually, now the site looks like one long gigantic slab with a matching roofline from St Joes Drive to Charlton. Soviet Russia would be proud.

Updated drawings in the Design Review Panel presentation at the bottom of this page.....

https://metro.urbanshare.info/project-updates/

king10 · #**184** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 2:20 AM**

Three 22 story towers will do wonders for the downtown housing supply and add hundreds to the core. Happy to see it.

drpgq · #**185** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 12:31 PM**

I kind of wish there was a housing supply review panel along with the design review panel. That's at least 23 floors lost.

HamiltonBoyInToronto · #**186** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 12:48 PM**

And the problem is that we are losing them for no good reason at all other than narrow minded NIMBYism

LRTfan · #**187** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 2:03 PM**

We lose 26 stories of needing housing units, VERY needed tax base and population growth AND we gain an uglier, slab, Commie-style skyline all for literally no reason. Winning, Hamilton-style (you don't become the Golden Horseshoe's donut hole by accident)

LikeHamilton · #**188** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 4:58 PM**

I don't know what the height problem was. There is really not much in the way of houses around there that have not been converted to commercial. It's all commercial, parking lots and high rise apartments in that area. This is where you should be building tall structures. And the building directly behind this project is 33 floors.

I find more and more that if you wish to build a building in this city to a certain level, you have to present a plan that is much higher than you want and then the nimby's can feel good that they get you to reduce it.

King&James · #**189** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 10:19 PM**

Not sure if is better to gain 3 towers so that we can get some minimums in place and a pile of units underway, or do the Vranich way get hole in ground, pour concrete and then push for added height in one or more tower. When the next development further north along John goes , push up to 30, and progressively get higher to Landmark height.

drpgq · #**190** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 11:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by LikeHamilton

I don't know what the height problem was. There is really not much in the way of houses around there that have not been converted to commercial. It's all commercial, parking lots and high rise apartments in that area. This is where you should be building tall structures. And the building directly behind this project is 33 floors.

I agree totally. I can certainly see some projects right beside single family housing causing issues, but this is one area where that's not the case at all. Thorne and Robichaud don't like it though so we're stuck with missing middle BS in the midst of ridiculous rents.

SteelTown · #**191** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 4:07 PM**

Developer pitches three new condo towers near Hamilton’s St. Joe’s hospital

Teviah Moro
https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilto...-hospital.html

A plan for three condo towers at the foot of the escarpment across from St. Joseph’s hospital is expected to be before city councillors early next year.

Spallacci & Sons Ltd. aims to build 773 units in towers of 22, 24 and 25 storeys on John Street South and St. Joseph’s Drive next to a city park.

“We’re very excited that we’re going to create something that’s iconic,” said Sergio Manchia, a planning consultant with Urban Solutions.

The Metro condo complex is to replace a five-storey apartment building on a sloping lot where John Street South meets Arkledun Avenue, which turns into the Jolly Cut. The footprint also includes a parking lot at Charlton Avenue East.

“They’re going to protect those (existing) rentals within their stock and the rest is going to be for the market,” Manchia said.

The design calls for the towers atop podiums that will have street-level commercial locales. Roughly 700 parking spaces will be split between the podiums and underground levels.

The development plan, which has undergone a few revisions, needs council approval for zoning and official plan changes to allow for its higher density.

Coun. Jason Farr, who represents the bustling area, said he’s “very pleased” with the plan.

“I can confidently tell you that this is very much a project that is not being sidelined for any reason.”

The existing height permission in the area is eight storeys. But the Corktown neighbourhood already has its share of highrise buildings, including the 33-storey Olympia on Charlton Avenue East.

Not everyone is thrilled with the potential addition of three residential towers and hundreds of automobiles.

There are many pedestrians around Charlton and John, and emergency vehicles with the hospital nearby, says Mary-Jane Davidson, who lives in a four-storey co-op next to the site on St. Joseph’s Drive.

“It’s just not an appropriate area, to be right across from a hospital, this mammoth complex that’s going to add to all the traffic.”

Manchia said his team “felt comfortable” with a traffic justification study submitted in support of the project.

He also said some residents may not own cars. The complex will be close to the Hunter Street GO station and HSR stops. “It certainly encourages people to leave their car at home and only use it when they need it.”

SteelTown · #**192** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 4:10 PM**

Métro City Condos | 114m | 36 fl, 30 fl & 26 fl | Proposed -> Métro City Condos | ?m | 22, 24 & 25 fl | Proposed

Chronamut · #**193** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 4:24 PM**

Some good density- that style seems to be popping up all over the city now. Black and white with picture frame jutout elements lol..

wonder if anyone is going to factor in how that will dirty over time..

Crapht · #**194** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 9:30 PM**

“We’re very excited that we’re going to create something that’s iconic,” said Sergio Manchia, a planning consultant with Urban Solutions.

So when do they show us the "Iconic" proposal? This is the same mediocre style that can easily pass as contemporary. There is nothing iconic about this. I believe this is the same developer as 101Locke which I believe turned out quite exceptional, and also the same developer as RC. If they want to do something iconic they should do something truly ICONIC at The RC property and do something midrise here (10 -12 storeys) in a similar style to 101 Locke. Save the views from Sam Lawrence Park from obstruction by this proposal and give Hamilton a truly ICONIC tower at RC.

Chronamut · #**195** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 1:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Crapht

“We’re very excited that we’re going to create something that’s iconic,” said Sergio Manchia, a planning consultant with Urban Solutions.

So when do they show us the "Iconic" proposal? This is the same mediocre style that can easily pass as contemporary. There is nothing iconic about this. I believe this is the same developer as 101Locke which I believe turned out quite exceptional, and also the same developer as RC. If they want to do something iconic they should do something truly ICONIC at The RC property and do something midrise here (10 -12 storeys) in a similar style to 101 Locke. Save the views from Sam Lawrence Park from obstruction by this proposal and give Hamilton a truly ICONIC tower at RC.

Noone knows how to do anything iconic anymore - its like they all have similar templates they work from.

King&James · #**196** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 3:44 AM**

Just build it already! We must have the highest renders per capita!

ZTrade · #**197** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by King&James

Just build it already! We must have the highest renders per capita!

Imagine if the failed Hamilton City Council didn't squander the 2016-2019 boom years by taking years to approve everything. Half of these projects are likely to not happen now because of Covid or get delayed even longer.

Instead of a blanket height restriction, allow some buildings to reach 40+ storeys based on merit.

Innsertnamehere · #**198** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by ZTrade

Imagine if the failed Hamilton City Council didn't squander the 2016-2019 boom years by taking years to approve everything. Half of these projects are likely to not happen now because of Covid or get delayed even longer.

Instead of a blanket height restriction, allow some buildings to reach 40+ storeys based on merit.

Most of the active development applications in downtown have actually been received in 2020 or 2019.

Plus, the as of right developments see some of the fastest approval timelines in the province since Hamilton has done something very rare and actually provided half decent densities in zoning as of right. Many developments are able to skip the rezoning process because of this.

bvbborussia · #**199** Posted **Oct 31, 2020, 12:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chronamut

Some good density- that style seems to be popping up all over the city now. Black and white with picture frame jutout elements lol..

wonder if anyone is going to factor in how that will dirty over time..

The developer will be long gone by then.

TheHonestMaple · #**200** Posted **Dec 27, 2020, 8:57 PM**

Any word on this one? Corktown seriously needs an influx of people...