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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 10:01 PM
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It's because we're French and have better taste!..
You're right. Wrong place to ponder this.






It's good. It's just so damn predictable.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 10:28 PM
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You're right. Wrong place to ponder this.






It's good. It's just so damn predictable.
Was just joking of course. I know the difference between design and execution. I don't have the answer. It could be because the sample in Montreal is just smaller compared with the gargantuan amount of construction in Toronto. However I find your question to be very relevant, even more so considering the price per square foot in Toronto vs Montreal. Toronto's designs are very contemporary/avant-garde but the finishes are almost always lacking. Dundas and Jarvis is a good example of that. When looking at second tier US cities (real-estate-wise); Nashville, San Diego, Portland, Atlanta, etc, the designs are usually very dated compared with Toronto or Vancouver, but it is generally made with decent curtain walls as opposed to the spandrel soup we see North of the border.

Edit: not to be too negatif, The PJ condos is one of my favorite project in Toronto and Canada right now. Good design AND execution imo.


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Calgary's 5 newest high-rise starts, along with a selection from around the inner city. We are back up to the low 20s of high rise construction for the first time in a few years with 22 above 35 meters currently UC.



Era - 13 storeys - 41 meters



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Theodore - 10 storeys - 36 meters




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Residences on Tenth - 35 storeys X 2 - 121 meters X 2



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Riverwalk - 12 storeys - 45 meters



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The Bridge - 16 storeys - 52 meters




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Dominion - 15 storeys X 2 - 50 meters X 2




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Arris East – 23 storeys – 90 meters


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Annex – 9 storeys – 30 meters



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Eleventh and 11 – 44 storeys – 138 meters



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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 10:37 PM
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Some nice missing middle going up in Calgary right now!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 11:06 PM
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/\ Nice activity in Calgary, thanks!


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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 11:16 PM
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Was just joking of course. I know the difference between design and execution. I don't have the answer. It could be because the sample in Montreal is just smaller compared with the gargantuan amount of construction in Toronto. However I find your question to be very relevant, even more so considering the price per square foot in Toronto vs Montreal. Toronto's designs are very contemporary/avant-garde but the finishes are almost always lacking. Dundas and Jarvis is a good example of that. When looking at second tier US cities (real-estate-wise); Nashville, San Diego, Portland, Atlanta, etc, the designs are usually very dated compared with Toronto or Vancouver, but it is generally made with decent curtain walls as opposed to the spandrel soup we see North of the border.

Edit: not to be too negatif, The PJ condos is one of my favorite project in Toronto and Canada right now. Good design AND execution imo.


https://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/pj-condos
I know. I was joking too.

Montreal has been taken over by foreign investors. It's not Toronto and Vancouver developers building the towers. I can;t confirm if this is related to one another or its just coincidence. Calgary definitely had a higher standard for residential glass facades before more Toronto and Vancouver developers showed up.
     
     
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I know. I was joking too.

Montreal has been taken over by foreign investors. It's not Toronto and Vancouver developers building the towers. I can;t confirm if this is related to one another or its just coincidence. Calgary definitely had a higher standard for residential glass facades before more Toronto and Vancouver developers showed up.
Interesting that you link that to developers instead of differences in intrinsic demand in different markets. You may be on to something. Best example that comes to mind is Canderel. Although it is officially a Montreal based company, it is mostly a Toronto company in operations. I know you know that already. They are responsible for the infamous ROCPs and Aura. The bottom 2/3 of Aura is one of the ugliest cladding I have ever witnessed.

This is what was originally expected/advertised. Simple boring design but with nice white and blue curtain walls.

https://mtlurb.com/topic/12238-tour-des-canadiens-2-51-etages/page/399/?tab=comments#comment-426109

Instead we got this grey greenish spandrel.

https://mtlurb.com/topic/12778-tour-des-canadiens-3-55-etages-2020/page/150/#comments

This is the worst we got so far in terms of towers above 120m.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 PM
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Intrinsic differences in demand infers local based end users are the driving force. They are not and probably never are but, that's another topic. Most people wouldn't know the difference between window wall and curtain wall because its not a priority. Storage is a helluva more important in their daily lives.

It wouldn't surprise me if window wall glass facades are an "English" Canadian invention from the frequent use here compared to the rest of the world.
     
     
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One Richmond Row - London. Walking around downtown London today was kind of depressing and grim. Really wish London had strict architectural standards and a height limit - 8 storeys, red or buff brick etc instead of precast, window wall and beige EIFS.


At any rate I discovered Healthy Creations is a decent gluten free bakery catering to celiacs while Joanie's is over-rated -- too sweet. However I love the late 70s/early 80s suburbs off Glenora Drive!

I hate this shit going up off Highbury:
     
     
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This is a great photo.

Absolutely AMAZING to see this in Montreal. I remember the days when in visited SSP to get the latest scoop on the proposed 28 storey PoMo condo on some 3rd tier Montreal downtown Street.

Now we've got this.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2020, 1:24 AM
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Impressive construction site
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2020, 2:30 PM
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2020, 3:24 PM
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Ugh. The white and black cancer affecting architecture around the country just won't die.
     
     
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Yeah hate it. Found a better picture of SRM Architect's One Richmond Row - not a fan of this Kitchener firm's work.
     
     
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St. Charles Market in Ottawa's Beechwood. The church structure was fully integrated within the development and will be used for retail, restaurants, a market and condo amenities.






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One Richmond Row is grotesque. Almost as bad as Zigg Condos on St Clair.

On the flip side Ottawa has some beautiful looking midrises going up, especially considering the price point of the units.
     
     
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One Richmond Row is grotesque. Almost as bad as Zigg Condos on St Clair.

I don't get what the relationship is?



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Old Posted Nov 23, 2020, 12:45 AM
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More ugliness in downtown Kitchener:

Duke Tower Kitchener


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One Young - RBC takes the ground floor ugh


Breithaupt 3


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345 King West - finished just in time for covid19 to vacate it ha
     
     
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A detail of the new CHUM's auditorium, entirely cover with copper panesl with tiny holes to let the light comes through. They really didn't cheap out on that one!


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