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Old Posted Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM
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Chatham_kent is basically Red Deer
Insults to both, I'm sure.

The giant pickups I see are everywhere in the Lower Mainland. 1/3 of all vehicles (?). The only strange thing I notice regarding them is that they seem to be driven as sports cars. Off the line, it is most likely a giant monster leaving everyone behind in a roar.

Regardless, I don't blame their owners as much as I blame our governments for a lack of legislation to restrict what used to be called a 'giant gas guzzlers,' for environmental and symbolic reasons.
     
     
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[QUOTE=MolsonExport;9110514]Chatham_kent is basically Red Deer[/QUO

No it's not. The ONLY thing Chatham shares with Red Deer is that it too is on the freeway smack in the middle of 2 much larger cities.

Chatham is actually a lovely little city and an under rated one and it is surrounded by many very nice small towns. Red Deer also has little heritage or significant history while Chatham has many historical buildings and a very rich Black history, probably the most important in the country.
     
     
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In university the American students were more likely to own a car or even take the bus short distances. And a lot more working poor Americans seem to struggle to maintain their vehicles while in Canada that demographic tends not to bother. Partly the transit tends to be better in Canada but I think there is a cultural difference too. There is a pervasive assumption in the US that everyone has a car and uses it as their primary mode of transportation, while transit is often thought of as either something for poor people or some kind of political statement rather than something you might choose to use over a car.
This attitude is really pervasive in Winnipeg I'd say. There's a nice little 'urban' population that embrace living close to the city and take transit and so on. But I'd say the vast majority, 'average', person views transit as something that they pay for so poor people can get around.

It's funny, I can't count the number of times I've heard someone say they'd gladly take a streetcar but wouldn't dare get on a bus. There is certainly a culture there.
     
     
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Chatham_kent is basically Red Deer
No it's not. The ONLY thing Chatham shares with Red Deer is that it too is on the freeway smack in the middle of 2 much larger cities.

Chatham is actually a lovely little city and an under rated one and it is surrounded by many very nice small towns. Red Deer also has little heritage or significant history while Chatham has many historical buildings and a very rich Black history, probably the most important in the country.
Notwithstanding the history of Chatham (which I am very familiar with, thanks though), there are other similarities besides being astride the highway. Both are in the centre of flat agricultural zones. Both are...conservative, and filled with the usual pickup truck-driving, Tim Hortons-swilling, god-fearing sort of folk. I've lived in next door London for 16 years so I am more than slightly familiar with the terrain.

Of course there are many differences, as there would be between any two locations. But it isn't a stretch to say that Chatham-Kent is the Red Deer of SW Ontario. Well maybe armpity Woodstock is a better fit.
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This attitude is really pervasive in Winnipeg I'd say. There's a nice little 'urban' population that embrace living close to the city and take transit and so on. But I'd say the vast majority, 'average', person views transit as something that they pay for so poor people can get around.

It's funny, I can't count the number of times I've heard someone say they'd gladly take a streetcar but wouldn't dare get on a bus. There is certainly a culture there.
Not really just a Winnipeg thing, I'm sure there are many big city dwellers who regularly ride subways/LRT but never set foot on buses. You know those Upper West Side matrons taking the subway to Lincoln Centre aren't taking the M7 bus to go home after the show.
     
     
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A streetcar is not like a bus though. Toronto's 1977 CLRVs to the last Orion series bus made. The streetcar is wider, quieter and smooth riding. Most surface commuters in Toronto would still choose the cramped, louder confines of the bus. It's faster being able to weave through traffic.
     
     
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Well maybe armpity Woodstock is a better fit.


That may provoke some comments

How about Dutton ??? where would that fit in the municipal hierarchy of places you wouldn't want to make your worst enemy live in.
     
     
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A streetcar is not like a bus though. Toronto's 1977 CLRVs to the last Orion series bus made. The streetcar is wider, quieter and smooth riding. Most surface commuters in Toronto would still choose the cramped, louder confines of the bus. It's faster being able to weave through traffic.
I avoid buses. I can't remember the last time I was on a TTC bus. I will go out of my way to use a streetcar. Its also been a factor for me when moving in the city. I need to be by a streetcar line. I'd rather my trip take an extra 5-10 mins then cram onto a bus.
     
     
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Toronto streetcars actually aren't wider than buses. They're roughly the same width give or take a few cm depending on the model.
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A streetcar is not like a bus though. Toronto's 1977 CLRVs to the last Orion series bus made. The streetcar is wider, quieter and smooth riding. Most surface commuters in Toronto would still choose the cramped, louder confines of the bus. It's faster being able to weave through traffic.
Since most of the routes are on the street, the trams employed by the TTC are about the same width as any bus, but they’re certainly longer. Longer in a way any non-tracked vehicle can’t be. I doubt busses are preferable though, because a cramped, bumpy ride on a bus being a few seconds quicker than the comfier tram isn’t much of a benefit.
     
     
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I avoid buses. I can't remember the last time I was on a TTC bus. I will go out of my way to use a streetcar. Its also been a factor for me when moving in the city. I need to be by a streetcar line. I'd rather my trip take an extra 5-10 mins then cram onto a bus.
Why? I'll admit I prefer trains to buses. They've got better capacity, more permanence, and they're just cooler. But there's nothing beyond this that makes trains better than buses. In fact, in many cases, buses are a better option. There's no rationale behind folks who will use a train but not a bus, beyond irrational elitism.

And Toronto's streetcars are often as crammed as major TTC bus routes. The 504 King is often as, if not more, crowded than the Jane bus.
     
     
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