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Old Posted Oct 1, 2020, 2:40 PM
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Good signs for LRT as Transpo nears financial crossroad with unpredictable ridership

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Sep 16, 2020 • Last Updated 19 hours ago • 4 minute read


The LRT system might be on track for an unprecedented period of stability with transit officials on Wednesday describing headway on the list of repairs, but there’s deep uncertainty on the horizon for OC Transpo as cooler months approach and loyal customers remain housebound because of the pandemic.

Transit commissioners received mostly good news about the state of the Confederation Line after general manager John Manconi opened a meeting saying “we have collectively made significant progress” fixing the $2.1-billion LRT system with a heightened level of commitment from the Rideau Transit Group (RTG) and affiliate Rideau Transit Maintenance (RTM).

RTG, which is still operating under a notice of contract default issued by the city in March, must have 15 trains on the line for peak-hour LRT service and the company has managed to maintain that level of service since Sept. 8.

When comparing the scheduled kilometres against the actual kilometres travelled by trains, September service so far had been operating over 98 per cent, which is exactly where Transpo wants to see it. One hundred per cent would be ideal, but Transpo knows high-90s is realistic.

Manconi said he hasn’t had to rip into the new management of RTG and RTM, signalling a turning point in the relationship between the city and the rail contractors. According to Manconi, there have been no disagreements over RTG’s maintenance priorities or the amount of resources.

Still, Manconi has contracted more expert consultants to weigh in on the progress of RTG’s remediation plan. He’s sending the bill to RTG.

Transpo’s director of operations, Troy Charter, described how RTG has improved the train brakes, overhead catenary system, train traction power, train doors, train auxiliary power supply and the train heating and cooling system.

LRT needs to win credibility in the winter. The period between last January and March saw the worst operations, with performance rates hitting as low as 88 per cent in January, largely attributed to vehicle power problems.

Charter said RTG is installing natural gas-powered heaters on track switches in three areas east of Tremblay Station where many of the switch problems happened last winter. In the west end, RTG is upgrading the electric heaters on track switches. The switches control train movements on the tracks and the heaters clear the snow and ice.

The stabilization of the LRT system brings financial implications for RTG, the city and fare-paying customers.

For RTG, it means the company is eligible to receive maintenance payments for meeting contracted service levels.

And for the city, it means considering if there will be an increase to 2020 fares, which city council has frozen because of the LRT problems.

Manconi said it’s premature to talk about a fare increase in 2020, but as the year winds down and the city attempts to lock in as much revenue certainty as possible, the transit prices will become a point of debate. A full calendar year without a previously planned 2.5-per-cent fare increase puts double the pressure on the 2021 budget, which in normal times would likely call for another modest increase.

The city’s budget process for the upcoming year usually begins in November.

Early indications suggest transit service won’t be trimmed to save money, even though ridership at the end of August was 33 per cent of what it usually would be at that time of year.

There’s no telling how many more transit riders will return as employers implement, or reduce, work-from-home regimes.

”We’re not bringing forward cuts as part of the (2021) budget,” Manconi said.

Coun. Riley Brockington pushed Manconi to have a financial plan to protect taxpayers, even if it means installing fewer rolls of toilet paper in washrooms.

The chair of the transit commission, Coun. Allan Hubley, dismissed Brockington’s musings about toilet paper savings during a post-meeting press conference, saying “we’re not into the weeds like that right now.”

Hubley said he’ll be looking for “flexibility” in the transit budget so Transpo can make adjustments if necessary.

Coun. Theresa Kavanagh wondered about the prospect of dipping further into the tax base to fund public transit, but it’s a major policy decision that would need to happen at city council. Transpo is currently funded half by transit fares and half by property taxes.

If the city doesn’t want to jack up fares or property taxes, and if Transpo doesn’t want to reduce service, the only way the agency will have money to maintain the same level of operations is if the upper governments send huge amounts of money.

The federal and provincial governments have done that for 2020, committing billions to help public transit agencies backfill their operational deficits because of COVID-19.

City management doesn’t know, however, if the other governments are prepared to backstop transit agencies for 2021 and beyond.

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At this point, I'm convinced that COVID-19 is just a hoax by the auto industry. They once again killed public transit.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2020, 5:25 PM
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At this point, I'm convinced that COVID-19 is just a hoax by the auto industry. They once again killed public transit.
I share your concern about public transit but you lose much credibility by calling COVID a "hoax".
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I share your concern about public transit but you lose much credibility by calling COVID a "hoax".
The virus is real but the panic is manufactured.
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The virus is real but the panic is manufactured.
What panic? I saw an orderly roll-out of public health interventions, followed by a gradual reduction of those measures as the situation improved.
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Not directly related to OC Transpo, but hopefully they will take advantage of this funding:
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Federal government announces $1.5-billion for zero-emission buses and charging infrastructure


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Funds are part of a $10-billion Canadian Infrastructure Bank Growth Plan to shore up the economy with investments in clean energy and low-carbon building retrofits, agriculture and broadband initiatives

The Canadian government today announced it is allocating $1.5 billion to “accelerate the adoption of zero-emission buses and charging infrastructure so Canadians can have cleaner commutes.”

The funds are part of a larger three-year, $10-billion “Growth Plan” that will also invest in clean energy projects, broadband expansion, agricultural irrigation and building retrofits. The spending is expected to create roughly 60,000 jobs along the way and help shore up a COVID-19 battered economy.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna, Minister of Infrastructure and Communities, teamed up in making the announcement.

Supporting Canadians

“We will continue to do what it takes to support Canadians through this crisis, safely get our economy back up and running, and get people back to work,” says Prime Minister Trudeau, in a release.

“Canada’s infrastructure plan invests in thousands of projects, creates jobs across the country, and builds stronger communities,” adds McKenna.

The Growth Plan is largest component announced to date from the $35-billion Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB) investment campaign created in 2017. The bank was established to boost the Canadian economy by financing the creation, improvement or updating of infrastructure projects in all regions. Its investments are also designed to attract additional dollars from private and institutional investors.

“We will be moving forward quickly to implement the $10-billion Growth Plan and deliver results,” says Michael Sabia, chair of the Canada Infrastructure Bank.

Measures are welcome

The EV industry has been hurt by COVID-19 on all fronts — from manufacturing to retail to infrastructure — and observers in the sector welcome the federal move.

“This investment goes beyond cutting carbon pollution — it’s also an investment in Canada’s four electric bus manufacturers and the local jobs they provide,” says Sarah Petrevan, policy director at think tank Clean Energy Canada, in a statement the followed the announcement.

“The Infrastructure Bank’s new plan will help build a more competitive and resilient economy — creating jobs for Canadians while tackling climate change.”

The Pembina Institute said it “applauds” the Growth Plan announcement. Carolyn Kim, Pembina’s transportation director, says that the $1.5-billion bus commitment will help Canada to realize the government’s commitment to get 5,000 zero-emission buses — transit and school — on Canadian roads by 2025.

She notes, however, that transit and school buses account for less than 10 per cent of Canada’s medium- and heavy-duty vehicle fleet. As such, Pembina is also urging the government to complement today’s announcement with “strong national ZEV policies to expand this investment to include commercial trucks,” Kim says. “This includes a ZEV sales mandate for all vehicles — passenger and commercial — and more financial incentives for procurement, infrastructure and training.”

More help for transit

The day before the federal announcement, the Canadian Urban Transit Research and Innovation Consortium (CUTRIC) announced separately that it is investing $999,000 in eCamion, an Ontario-based energy storage solution company. eCamion will use the money to develop a new ZEV bus charging system, aiming to halve the cost from $1 million to $500,000.

“To get 5,000 electric buses out on Canadian roads in the next few years, and realize the long-term vision of the recent Throne Speech, we need to make electrification easy for transit agencies,” said Josipa Petrunic, CEO of CUTRIC. “Reducing the cost and complexity of charging systems is a critical step in helping transit agencies flip the switch and go electric with their buses in the near future.”
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2020, 8:46 AM
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What panic? I saw an orderly roll-out of public health interventions, followed by a gradual reduction of those measures as the situation improved.
Really? In Ontario?
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It's nice the feds are pitching in money for electric buses, but how about some money for mainline railroad electrification?
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Permanent, powerful LRT track heaters in east end won't be ready until Ottawa is on winter's doorstep

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Oct 21, 2020 • Last Updated 1 hour ago • 4 minute read


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OC Transpo ridership in September was at 30 per cent of levels that would be expected if it wasn’t for the COVID-19 pandemic.




Commission endorses $6M in barriers for bus drivers

With a 9-2 vote, the transit commission supported installing $6-million worth of barriers on buses to protect drivers from assaults.

The equipment would cost about $8,000 for each of the 746 buses eyed for the retrofit.

The barriers would also provide protection against the spread of COVID-19, but the main goal is to prevent bus drivers from being assaulted.

Citizen commissioner Sarah Wright-Gilbert was skeptical about installing the barriers, considering the expensive price. She wasn’t pleased with a lack of information, including specific numbers on how many bus operators have been assaulted. The best number staff had at the meeting was about 100 assaults in the past year.

Coun. Riley Brockington said it was too early to consider the proposal since the commission didn’t yet have a list of other 2021 priorities in Transpo’s capital budget.

Wright-Gilbert and Brockington opposed the installations on the existing fleet, but they supported including the barriers on new bus purchases in the future.

Commissioner Anthony Carricato admitted to sticker shock after seeing the $6-million cost, but he’s convinced it’s critical equipment needed to keep drivers safe.

Protective barriers aren’t being proposed for Para Transpo vehicles.

The $6-million cost is a pre-tender estimate. Transpo plans to procure the barriers through a contract competition, but before going to the market, the commission and city council will need to approve OC Transpo’s 2021 capital budget in November and December, respectively.


Few fines so far during mask crackdown

Fewer than 10 people had been fined for not wearing masks on Transpo in six days of mandatory tickets for customers not using the face coverings, transit commissioners heard.

As of Sunday, seven customers had been fined for not wearing masks. Another 15 customers were denied access to the transit system for not wearing masks and 23 customers cited medical exemptions to the mask rule.

The mask enforcement campaign started Oct. 9 but the fines started Oct. 13.

Between Oct. 9 and Oct. 13, special constables issued 25 written warnings.

Another 454 customers were told to adjust their masks.

“Operation Mask Up” runs until Friday.


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Old Posted Oct 22, 2020, 2:37 AM
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I find the stats on the Transit app website (https://transitapp.com/coronavirus) very interesting.

Their demand by day stats show more of a decline than the official numbers- perhaps because people needing to use transit at this time are less likely to be using an app.



The shape of the line with the frequent bump-ups, matches the shape of OC's chart. On the Transit website, you can see that the peaks are weekends. In other words, the ridership decline is less on weekends.

Transit's website also has demand by time of day, and it shows the biggest drops in demand are at peak periods:



Both of these go to illustrate that the demand for off-peak travel is more resilient than the demand for on-peak travel. The demand throughout the day is almost flat now.

If we need to cut service, we should start by cutting the most expensive peak hour service (like the super expensive Connexion buses). At least until COVID is over, maybe OC should reduce its historical focus on rush-hour commuter service and ensure that it is running a really good all day route network.
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I find the stats on the Transit app website (https://transitapp.com/coronavirus) very interesting.

Their demand by day stats show more of a decline than the official numbers- perhaps because people needing to use transit at this time are less likely to be using an app.



The shape of the line with the frequent bump-ups, matches the shape of OC's chart. On the Transit website, you can see that the peaks are weekends. In other words, the ridership decline is less on weekends.

Transit's website also has demand by time of day, and it shows the biggest drops in demand are at peak periods:



Both of these go to illustrate that the demand for off-peak travel is more resilient than the demand for on-peak travel. The demand throughout the day is almost flat now.

If we need to cut service, we should start by cutting the most expensive peak hour service (like the super expensive Connexion buses). At least until COVID is over, maybe OC should reduce its historical focus on rush-hour commuter service and ensure that it is running a really good all day route network.
People don't use route planning for their daily commute so this under-estimates peak hour commuting.

Regardless rush hour is the priority. For transit users and for broader support for transit from the larger population that drives to work but pays taxes and votes.
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People don't use route planning for their daily commute so this under-estimates peak hour commuting.
Transit isn't a route planning app; it's an app to give real-time arrival information. I know that I use it every day when taking transit to optimize the time I head out to the bus stop. Obviously not all riders use it, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that it's used by a lower percentage of people at one time of day vs. another.

All I'm saying about rush hour is that I think it is being over-served at present. In my neighbourhood, there are buses every 7-8 minutes, which is excessive right now. 15 minute service would be fine.
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Transit isn't a route planning app; it's an app to give real-time arrival information. I know that I use it every day when taking transit to optimize the time I head out to the bus stop. Obviously not all riders use it, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that it's used by a lower percentage of people at one time of day vs. another.

All I'm saying about rush hour is that I think it is being over-served at present. In my neighbourhood, there are buses every 7-8 minutes, which is excessive right now. 15 minute service would be fine.
If "there are buses every 7-8 minutes" (and the Confederation Line is even more frequent) that is a reason to believe that those who are commuting during rush hour are less likely to use the Transit app. At those frequencies you can just go to your stop whenever and catch the first bus/train that comes without trying to figure out when the next one will be.

As for your thought that buses every 7-8 minutes being excessive right now, with COVID, they are wanting the buses to be running significantly below capacity to allow for social distancing on the bus. I guess it depends how empty the buses are.
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Transpo could lose tens of millions at the fare box in 2021 but no signs of major overhaul — yet

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Oct 22, 2020 • Last Updated 1 hour ago • 4 minute read


OC Transpo could be projecting a fare revenue loss in the tens of millions of dollars as management gets closer to releasing their projections as part of the 2021 draft budget, but there are few indications the transit agency will undergo major transformation to match the new financial reality.

If a big change in public transit is required as a response to ridership levels forever altered by the COVID-19 pandemic, it’s not clear if next year will represent the beginning of that journey for Transpo and its customers.

The urgent matter is getting through 2021 and being able to pay the bills.

Hints of what’s in Transpo’s forecast came out during a council meeting last week when Coun. Mathieu Fleury asked staff about their 2021 projections for the transit agency.

“You’ll see that when we table the budget,” responded Wendy Stephanson, the city’s chief financial officer. “I think we’re talking about … a 40 per cent ridership gap which could be to the tune of $50 to $60 million next year.”

John Manconi, the general manager of transportation services, was reluctant to talk about the budget projections during a press availability Wednesday, but he indicated he’s collecting intel from multiple sources when asked about the 40 per cent estimate.

“We’re going to walk through that at the budget tabling,” Manconi said. “We’ve got some forecasts that our planning group has done with Mr. Willis’s team (planning and economic development GM Stephen Willis) and Stats Canada. We’re in that range. It is a crystal ball analysis with some science to it and I’ll have to wait until the tabling of the budget.”

The 2021 draft budget lands on Nov. 4.

The transit commission meeting this week didn’t dig into budgeting, but fiscal concerns wove their way through debates about spending millions to install shields on buses to protect drivers and adding electric buses to the fleet.

Investments in workforce safety usually don’t spark a lengthy debate about spending money to bolster security, but the discussion at the committee meeting touched on the unknowns of the 2021 budget and the future size of the bus fleet.

The discussion dovetailed with another exchange over buying electric buses, prompting Manconi to warn commissioners about a larger problem.

“COVID has really thrown a wrench here,” Manconi said during the meeting. “We have to update our entire transit affordability plan because your pressure now is not just how do you convert to electric buses. It’s, how do you deal with the ridership gap? Are you into major service changes? Are you reducing (or) are you slowing down capital? Are you adjusting O and M (operations and maintenance)? Are you changing standards? And the list is going to go on and on.”

Ridership in September was 30 per cent of what Transpo would normally expect in the month. The number of customers taking public transit plummeted at the start of the pandemic in March and there were small increases over the summer, but ridership is nowhere near where it was last winter.

Management’s challenge is predicting the ridership level, and with that information, forecasting fare revenue.

Decisions on workplace culture by major Ottawa employers, such as the federal government, Crown agencies, post-secondary institutions and the municipal government, will impact ridership and cash flow.

Manconi said Transpo has been losing $4 million each week during the pandemic, though the federal and provincial governments have rolled out a financial safety net for transit agencies this year. Upper government money made available to municipalities will help the City of Ottawa pull through 2020 and could put Transpo on solid financial ground through the first quarter of 2021.

After that, the city could be left to figure it out on its own.

The city is banking on the upper levels of government bailing out the municipal budget for all of 2021, so the financial forecast in the draft budget could pretend like there’s no pandemic happening.

However, the city has an undisclosed mitigation plan in case the upper governments don’t parachute in money, and while transit management has mused about COVID-19 driving a transformation in public transit, there has not yet been a blueprint put on the table for the transit commission to consider.

An inkling might come with the draft budget, but the commission hasn’t provided direction to management on its expectations for the transit system under a reimagined service model.

The only certainty is that Ottawa’s transit network will have a sprawling rail system in place by 2025 when the full Stage 2 O-Train expansion is complete. From there, it will be about getting customers to rail stations and providing local bus service in high-demand areas, but potentially only where it’s affordable for Transpo.

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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 6:55 AM
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If "there are buses every 7-8 minutes" (and the Confederation Line is even more frequent) that is a reason to believe that those who are commuting during rush hour are less likely to use the Transit app. At those frequencies you can just go to your stop whenever and catch the first bus/train that comes without trying to figure out when the next one will be.

As for your thought that buses every 7-8 minutes being excessive right now, with COVID, they are wanting the buses to be running significantly below capacity to allow for social distancing on the bus. I guess it depends how empty the buses are.
Exactly but it is not only the frequency. If I commute every day I know the schedule. Sure some are not reliable so still want to check but many are mostly on schedule.
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The debate on the protective barriers for OC drivers was a bit hard to listen to. I get that $8,000 per unit seems expensive, but this is an important retrofit to keep drivers safe. Suggesting that the cheap barriers we have now, at $300 a piece, are good enough, it's ridiculous. The argument that both prevent the spread of Covid just as well, when the point of the new barriers is to protect drivers from physical assault, is offside.

I get that it's a big expense in a time we're trying to save money, but this is not the place to cut expenses. I would have liked OC to present numbers from other agencies who purchased similar barriers in order to show "hey, this is the price and we're not going to get anything cheaper".
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I get that it's a big expense in a time we're trying to save money, but this is not the place to cut expenses. I would have liked OC to present numbers from other agencies who purchased similar barriers in order to show "hey, this is the price and we're not going to get anything cheaper".
They stated (in the meeting) that these numbers were based on the numbers they got from other transit agencies. No hard numbers, though.

It's funny, albeit sad, to see people suggest it's outlandish that we'll spend $8000 per barrier, but then never bother to explain why or how that's a ridiculous number, or what the number should be instead.
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They stated (in the meeting) that these numbers were based on the numbers they got from other transit agencies. No hard numbers, though.

It's funny, albeit sad, to see people suggest it's outlandish that we'll spend $8000 per barrier, but then never bother to explain why or how that's a ridiculous number, or what the number should be instead.
What's outlandish is spending all this money because we're afraid of a flu with a 98% survival rate. And if you're young and healthy, it's more like 99.99%.
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What's outlandish is spending all this money because we're afraid of a flu with a 98% survival rate. And if you're young and healthy, it's more like 99.99%.
This is false. This is 100% about putting an end to driver assaults that have risen lately. As discussed in the transit commission meeting, there's only a coincidental link to covid.
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What's outlandish is spending all this money because we're afraid of a flu with a 98% survival rate. And if you're young and healthy, it's more like 99.99%.
[rant]it’s not the mortality rate that’s scary. It’s the 8.5% hospitalization rate that’s scary. Without flattening the curve, our hospitals would be overrun. That mortality rate is with proper medical care. Then there is all the people who would die of other curable diseases and injuries because the hospitals are filled with COVID patients.[/rant]
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