General Vancouver Updates

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by djh

Please tell me you're joking that the city bylaws restrict building height due to...shadowing of the water...

Shadowing the seawall, meaning the path people walk and cycle on.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

They're installing concrete bollards in front of the VPD:

Has there ever been an incident to be worried about? VPD aren't winning any fans with this militaristic crap.

[GenWhy?]

CD-1 Rezoning: 3701-3743 West Broadway

As of October 26th there are 129 comments of support and 177 opposed to the Rezoning Application.

[GenWhy?]

I've read this I don't know how many times and is completely false and sad:

" The
developer, Westbank, will not contribute any Development Cost Levies or Community Amenity Contributions beyond the rental housing itself. No money for day care or other cultural space. He will also receive a waiver of the Development Cost Levies normally required. This is $3,139,276 that normally covers the costs associated with the construction such as sewers and water. These costs will have to be paid by the City at large in a time of budget crisis"

[Feathered Friend]

https://shapeyourcity.ca/14697/widgets/56992/documents/34970


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/3701-3743wbroadway/documents/RevisedRendering.pdf

October 27th 2020 Public Hearing – Letters Flood City Hall as Economic Terror Threatens Mount Pleasant, While Middle Class Rental Homes Panic West Point Grey

Public Hearing – October 27th 2020
While we may have spent most of our Halloween puns earlier this month, this night has far more of a connection to that holiday. Whether it’s the focus on public transit, the responses of hundreds of individuals, or the fear some have of renters, there’s a clear connection between the two events. Yet Hannah and I both predict it will be this meeting that is far more ghoulish.

Like any horror film, it starts off rather idyllic with an opportunity to provide restaurants the temporary patios they need to survive over the next year. We don’t expect Items 2 or 3 to generate much conversation either, as neither the heritage designation of a historic First Shaughnessy mansion, nor townhomes on the Cambie Corridor will spark much interest. After all, new housing is often created along arterial roads, or in the case of Item 4, a busy rail-line.

This amendment is also temporary in nature, as it allows for new modular homes at 1580 Vernon Drive. Obviously the need to create these shelter-rate dwellings before another cold rainy winter is self-evident, but the location is less than ideal. The same could be said about Item 5, but it’s unlikely that anyone will have much to say about a four floor building essentially next to a Canada Line station.

In contrast, the plan to create roughly 500 jobs near the future Mount Pleasant Broadway Line station is where things begin to take a dark turn. Certainly those who dominated the feedback of Item 6’s virtual open house think this office building may bring upon the destruction of Mount Pleasant, or at least their increasing property values (pg 46). Had this agenda ended here, perhaps this one night would have been sufficient, but it likely only marks the start of a horror show.

Already, the plan to create 153 rental homes at the western terminus of Broadway has led to the submission of over 300 letters. So far the opposition is winning the day, but with many describing renters as transients (pg 29), they can hardly claim a moral victory. Naturally these voices don’t represent most in West Point Grey, nor the businesses that struggle daily to survive, but unfortunately they are often the loudest.

Backlash Expectations

Item #5 – 203 – 263 West 49 Ave – Very Low
There’s been several other four floor proposals on this block that have failed to draw any attention

Item #6 – 24 East Broadway & 2520 Ontario St – Moderate
Of those few who spoke up, over 50% opposed creating new office space in Mount Pleasant

Item #7 – 3701 – 3743 West Broadway – Extreme
There’s already been literally hundreds of letters against these moderate income rental homes

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/10/27...lass-rental-homes-panic-west-point-grey/

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by djh

Please tell me you're joking that the city bylaws restrict building height due to...shadowing of the water...

No, the sea wall, not the sea itself. Surely as a Vancouverite you've heard of the seawall.

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yeah exactly, won't all those Senakw towers create a wee bit of shadowing?

Sure, and where there are existing shadows created by Senakw no need to shorten, but no way Concord gets to cast new shadows.

[osirisboy]

What’s the rational behind being against providing shade on the seawall?

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://shapeyourcity.ca/14697/widgets/56992/documents/34970


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/3701-3743wbroadway/documents/RevisedRendering.pdf



https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/10/27...lass-rental-homes-panic-west-point-grey/

I'm not surprised at the reaction to 3701, but one's got to wonder if council is going to listen. I'd imagine densifying Broadway is a bipartisan issue, and not something you can simply vote away. I really hope we don't end up with another Broadway/Commercial scenario with massively under-built residential density around these new stations.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

What’s the rational behind being against providing shade on the seawall?

same as a park i imagine. the seawall is considered a park by the CoV. you cant shade an already shady corner of a park; same rules here.

[zivan56]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I wonder if condos overlooking the DND site are a security risk

Here's the website (nothing to see need a password to get in):

https://quantumpark.ca/



So there will be offices.

Looks like they have some public content:

Here is a video on their site with more details: link
Booklet: link


Source: Google

EDIT: links no longer work, see https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244447

[Metro-One]

I love irony in that at the same time “shadowing” concerns are used against taller towers the city is busy championing the mass planting of “shade” trees in the exact same areas...

[Migrant_Coconut]

Methinks that's exactly the point: they don't want the trees wilting because there's a tower in the way.

Back on topic, here's Senakw for context. Concord could theoretically build almost twice as high as planned without overmatching MST/Westbank's shadows.

[C3YVR]

Quantum Park claims it was inspired by quantum theory, but large amounts seem to have actually been inspired by MyZeil Shopping Mall in Frankfurt Germany. https://www.archute.com/myzeil-shopping-...ys-grand-futuristic-shopping-experience/

[scryer]

Originally Posted by giallo

I'm not surprised at the reaction to 3701, but one's got to wonder if council is going to listen. I'd imagine densifying Broadway is a bipartisan issue, and not something you can simply vote away. I really hope we don't end up with another Broadway/Commercial scenario with massively under-built residential density around these new stations.

We just have to either wait for the NIMBYs to start pushing daisies or for younger generations to take more interest in local politics and civic changes at this point.

[jollyburger]

Maybe we should create a new Quantum Park thread?

So there's a new parking entrance/exit off of Burrard and one at the rear of the property.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by C3YVR

Quantum Park claims it was inspired by quantum theory, but large amounts seem to have actually been inspired by MyZeil Shopping Mall in Frankfurt Germany. https://www.archute.com/myzeil-shopping-...ys-grand-futuristic-shopping-experience/

I definitely do not see that.

If it looks anything like MyZeil we're damn lucky.

[vanman]

Originally Posted by zivan56

Here is a video on their site with more details: link

Booklet: link

Thanks for the links.

Interesting that they reference Times Square and Shibuya for the branding oppurtunities at this development. In the video it also appears like the entire development is wrapped in media screens.I wonder how realistic that is. Actually I guess the whole concept is very unrealistic still given the fact that the site is zoned industrial with the city having no intention changing that designation.

[s211]

Originally Posted by C3YVR

Quantum Park claims it was inspired by quantum theory, but large amounts seem to have actually been inspired by MyZeil Shopping Mall in Frankfurt Germany. https://www.archute.com/myzeil-shopping-...ys-grand-futuristic-shopping-experience/

I'd much prefer "Pretention" than Quantum, because I'm seeing architectural gobble-de-gook writ large here.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Methinks that's exactly the point: they don't want the trees wilting because there's a tower in the way.

Back on topic, here's Senakw for context. Concord could theoretically build almost twice as high as planned without overmatching MST/Westbank's shadows.

Ummm, if that were the case there would be no trees / plant life on the north facing slopes of hills and mountains (such as Burnaby Mountain) and on the birthing side of any buildings / towers... In face quite the opposite occurs, south facing slopes with direct sunlight tend to have less vegetation. So I really don’t think some shadows from towers will cause any plant life along the seawall to wilt and wither (or any other park for that matter).

[rofina]

Wow.

Does Concord ever have some massive developments coming up.

Between this and St. Pauls the next 20 years for them is filled up.