YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 783

hollywoodcory · #**15641** Posted **Oct 18, 2020, 2:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS appears to be adding back YVR-PVR once weekly starting November 6th on Saturdays.

PSP as well, 2x weekly on Thursday / Sunday.

LeftCoaster · #**15642** Posted **Oct 26, 2020, 9:19 PM**

According to a couple weeks of chatter on Airliners.net there is a potential for Qatar Airlines to serve YVR and YYZ based off an amendment to the bilateral agreement currently under negotiation.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453357&p=22482555#p22482555

I find it a bit hard to believe, but Canada's relationship with the UAE is not great and with traffic to India still high and Chinese flights not picking up the normal loads Qatar could help move Indo-Canadians back and forth for the peak season. This coupled with ACs announcement that they are going to serve Doha as well leads me to believe there is an agreement between the two airlines that could help make this a reality.

thenoflyzone · #**15643** Posted **Oct 26, 2020, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

According to a couple weeks of chatter on Airliners.net there is a potential for Qatar Airlines to serve YVR and YYZ based off an amendment to the bilateral agreement currently under negotiation.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453357&p=22482555#p22482555

I find it a bit hard to believe, but Canada's relationship with the UAE is not great and with traffic to India still high and Chinese flights not picking up the normal loads Qatar could help move Indo-Canadians back and forth for the peak season. This coupled with ACs announcement that they are going to serve Doha as well leads me to believe there is an agreement between the two airlines that could help make this a reality.

It's fake news.

We cannot verify YYZORD's source. Plus he's been wrong in the past (about ANA wanting to serve YYZ). flyyul, on the other hand, has been on airliners as long as me (20 years or so), and I'll take his word any day of the week ! His sources are trustworthy, and he has never been wrong, so if he says it's not happening, it's not happening !

No doubt AC and QR will announce some type of cooperation (i'm thinking codeshare agreement) shortly, but from there to say that Canada will grant QR 7x more weekly frequencies is absurd at best. It took QR 8 years to get an extra weekly frequency. Do you really think Canada will all of a sudden grant them 7x more? Doesn't make sense.

whatnext · #**15644** Posted **Oct 26, 2020, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

According to a couple weeks of chatter on Airliners.net there is a potential for Qatar Airlines to serve YVR and YYZ based off an amendment to the bilateral agreement currently under negotiation.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453357&p=22482555#p22482555

I find it a bit hard to believe, but Canada's relationship with the UAE is not great and with traffic to India still high and Chinese flights not picking up the normal loads Qatar could help move Indo-Canadians back and forth for the peak season. This coupled with ACs announcement that they are going to serve Doha as well leads me to believe there is an agreement between the two airlines that could help make this a reality.

Peak season for what?

LeftCoaster · #**15645** Posted **Oct 26, 2020, 9:56 PM**

Visiting India for the holidays. Many Indian immigrants head back to India during the period of from December to roughly March I believe.

Usually flights through China and Europe fill this need, however with China only allowing 2x per destination and Europe more or less shut down, alternatives will need to be found.

Klazu · #**15646** Posted **Oct 26, 2020, 11:54 PM**

With thenoflyzone barking so quickly, a release of those roites must be imminent. Thanks for the scoop, LeftCoaster.

Nites · #**15647** Posted **Nov 5, 2020, 12:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Visiting India for the holidays. Many Indian immigrants head back to India during the period of from December to roughly March I believe.

Usually flights through China and Europe fill this need, however with China only allowing 2x per destination and Europe more or less shut down, alternatives will need to be found.

Any chance AC opens up the 14 hour none stop flight?

thenoflyzone · #**15648** Posted **Nov 6, 2020, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nites

Any chance AC opens up the 14 hour none stop flight?

AC is currently operating YVR-DEL, 2x weekly. Will go up to 3x weekly in December.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home...pdates/2020/route-updates.html#/atlantic

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac44

The route is heavily restricted and Canadian citizens (i.e tourists), for the most part, cannot book these flights. It is reserved mostly to Indian nationals and OCI (overseas Citizen of India) cardholders.

Info on Canada-India travel bubble restrictions can be found here.

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Originally Posted by Klazu

With thenoflyzone barking so quickly, a release of those roites must be imminent. Thanks for the scoop, LeftCoaster.

I realize you're probably joking.

But in case you weren't, it's worth mentioning that what I left out in my previous comments is that I know who flyyul is in real life, where he works and what he does. Suffice it to say, he is "extremely" well placed to know of such information. So if he, and by extrapolation, I, say it's fake news, you can take it to the bank.

Yes, QR is very much interested in flying to YVR and YYZ. But it's not going to happen the way that poster on airliners is saying it will.

zahav · #**15649** Posted **Nov 11, 2020, 7:23 AM**

Posted this on the Canada Airports forum. It came from:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/294690/airline-snapshot-air-canada/

Interesting to see the AC route data. No real surprises, except for maybe the two FRA routes being in the top 10 (I would've thought LHR would've been in there at least once before FRA).

Interesting that YEG and YYC to YVR is almost the same amount of seats as those cities to YYZ. But YVR to YYZ and significantly more.

On one of the side bars it has a link about YVR-DEL. A couple of the noted sections:

After operating repatriation flights between Delhi (DEL) and Vancouver (YVR) during the pandemic as part of India’s Vande Bharat Mission, the country’s national carrier is this month beginning scheduled service to the Canadian city. Air India plans to start a 3X-weekly operation from Oct. 25 using Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, offering 2,052 weekly two-way seats on the route.

Data provided by Sabre Market Intelligence shows that Vancouver was Delhi’s third largest market in North America during 2019 after Toronto and New York. O&D traffic between Delhi and Vancouver totaled 343,180 two-way passengers last year, a rise of 7.1% on the previous 12 months.

So AI clearly is differentiating between repatriation flights and scheduled flights. They must have confidence in the route to launch it officially outside of just repatriation flights. It was never really a question over whether there was demand for YVR-INDIA or not, rather it was the economics of making it work. Seems they've found a way. I'm surprised YVR came ahead of SFO and LAX though, that says something that YVR is the 3rd largest market ahead of those two.

Klazu · #**15650** Posted **Nov 13, 2020, 1:30 AM**

Antonov AN-124 Ruslan spotted at YVR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/jt0ri8/yesterday_we_had_a_special_guest_at_the_yvr/

Lexus · #**15651** Posted **Nov 13, 2020, 2:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Antonov AN-124 Ruslan spotted at YVR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/jt0ri8/yesterday_we_had_a_special_guest_at_the_yvr/

Thats one looks like a Ukrainian one, based on yellow and blue coloured strips.

Lexus · #**15652** Posted **Nov 13, 2020, 2:38 AM**

Could be some new iPhones 12

zahav · #**15653** Posted **Nov 13, 2020, 6:50 AM**

It was PPE

Ugh it makes me feal nauseous that a huge plane like that is needed for PPE, so sad

moosejaw · #**15654** Posted **Nov 14, 2020, 12:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lexus

Thats one looks like a Ukrainian one, based on yellow and blue coloured strips.

Back in the day Ukraine was part of Russia
Created by the Ukrainian Design Bureau
In Miami we see this particular plane on a regular basis
You can use the Flight24 app to track it

Lexus · #**15655** Posted **Nov 14, 2020, 2:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by moosejaw

Back in the day Ukraine was part of Russia
Created by the Ukrainian Design Bureau
In Miami we see this particular plane on a regular basis
You can use the Flight24 app to track it

As a Ukrainian guy I must correct you that Ukraine was not a part of Russia, it was one of 4 former republics of USSR. More were added during and after WW2

moosejaw · #**15656** Posted **Nov 14, 2020, 4:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lexus

As a Ukrainian guy I must correct you that Ukraine was not a part of Russia, it was one of 4 former republics of USSR. More were added during and after WW2

Your right sorry

trofirhen · #**15657** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 11:07 AM**

Hope it's all right to post this. I have heard this unserved route discussed before. Interesting that it seems to have some profile still.
It would be a great SA connection for YVR, GRU leading those onward destinations, it seems. Great that it has grabbed planners' attention again.

It's from Sept 29, but hope this is still relevant here, at least for interest.

https://www.anna.aero/2020/09/29/vancouv...eek-567000-searches-powered-by-kiwi-com/

nname · #**15658** Posted **Dec 7, 2020, 7:52 PM**

Some long-haul updates over the past month or so... mostly bad news

TK YVR-IST had been delayed again to Mar 14
AC YVR-BNE seems to be removed for S21, SYD is also questionable now (open for PY only)
AT had remove all long-haul flights completely from YVR for S21
AI had extended their YVR-DEL service until the end of S21, seems like the route is here to stay

Johnny Aussie · #**15659** Posted **Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Some long-haul updates over the past month or so... mostly bad news

TK YVR-IST had been delayed again to Mar 14
AC YVR-BNE seems to be removed for S21, SYD is also questionable now (open for PY only)
AT had remove all long-haul flights completely from YVR for S21
AI had extended their YVR-DEL service until the end of S21, seems like the route is here to stay

Let's be realistic though. The way things are going is any of this really surprising?
As for Australia, we won't be opening our borders anytime soon with the continuing spike in cases around the world. No chance at that.
I am sure tougher travel restrictions will be implemented soon in Canada.

casper · #**15660** Posted **Dec 8, 2020, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Some long-haul updates over the past month or so... mostly bad news

TK YVR-IST had been delayed again to Mar 14
AC YVR-BNE seems to be removed for S21, SYD is also questionable now (open for PY only)
AT had remove all long-haul flights completely from YVR for S21
AI had extended their YVR-DEL service until the end of S21, seems like the route is here to stay

My understanding was the the AC YVR-SYD flight was operating nearly daily as a cargo only operation. IF that is the still the case then all we are talking about is selling seats on an otherwise empty aircraft. That is dependent on agreeing to be locked in a hotel room for 10 days.