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Biff · #**7061** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 5:25 PM**

I see they are now poring the old fashioned way with crane and bucket. I wonder why they went away from using the two concrete pumps they had initially installed? Savings maybe?

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Bringing this back to the TNS developments...

From Apr 6 -

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drew · #**7062** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 5:32 PM**

^ the pumps may come back when they are ready to pour another floor.

They are gonna need them if they keep up this "trying to build a highrise with as few workers as possible" plan.

Wpg_Guy · #**7063** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 6:18 PM**

The variance for the FAR was approved that TN was looking for.

esquire · #**7064** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 6:29 PM**

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The variance for the FAR was approved that TN was looking for.

bomberjet · #**7065** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 7:40 PM**

Also if I'm reading that right, they've denied the appeal to the parkade approach off Graham Ave. So it will have to be moved elsewhere.

BAKGUY · #**7066** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 7:58 PM**

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The variance for the FAR was approved that TN was looking for.

F A R ?
Not comprehending what that stands for

Winnipeg Grump · #**7067** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 8:15 PM**

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F A R ?
Not comprehending what that stands for

Floor Area Ratio.
The development's FAR is waaay in excess of what is called for in the area.

BAKGUY · #**7068** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 8:35 PM**

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Floor Area Ratio.
The development's FAR is waaay in excess of what is called for in the area.

I get it.
In regards to Wawanesa seeking 23 floors verses 19?
If they go to 23 that might make it 100 metres and then considered a true SKyscraper.
MTS Place is 24 floors and 96 metres. Wawanesa and newer hi-rises ( ALL the new ones in TNS) tend to have large podiums with super tall main and second floors etc..I know Wawanesa is going to do that and a larger top floor.
That could make it taller than MB Hydro tower minus that excess rail vertical piece.

Wpg_Guy · #**7069** Posted **Oct 19, 2020, 8:48 PM**

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Also if I'm reading that right, they've denied the appeal to the parkade approach off Graham Ave. So it will have to be moved elsewhere.

That recommendation to deny was overruled by the committee.

Spocket · #**7070** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 8:03 AM**

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I get it.
In regards to Wawanesa seeking 23 floors verses 19?
If they go to 23 that might make it 100 metres and then considered a true SKyscraper.
MTS Place is 24 floors and 96 metres. Wawanesa and newer hi-rises ( ALL the new ones in TNS) tend to have large podiums with super tall main and second floors etc..I know Wawanesa is going to do that and a larger top floor.
That could make it taller than MB Hydro tower minus that excess rail vertical piece.

Was the diagram posted previously not the 23 floor variation? If it was then it's still not as tall as Hydro. If it wasn't then this will be noticeably taller.

esquire · #**7071** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 11:58 AM**

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Was the diagram posted previously not the 23 floor variation? If it was then it's still not as tall as Hydro. If it wasn't then this will be noticeably taller.

The diagram was for the revised (taller) design. Almost as tall as, but not quite as tall as Hydro.

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Biff · #**7072** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 2:05 PM**

That is the revised new height. Will likely come in right under the 100 m mark.

BAKGUY · #**7073** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 4:49 PM**

It would be sweet if the diagram could be added to the Diagram page for Winnipeg.
It would be great to see where it lines up.. I imagine the 7th or 8th tallest building in the city?
Also, the height should be changed here on this thread from 19 to 23 floors for the 5th tower for Wawanesa. Thanks

esquire · #**7074** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 4:56 PM**

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It would be sweet if the diagram could be added to the Diagram page for Winnipeg.
Also, the height changed here on this thread from 19 to 23 for the 5th tower for Wawanesa. Thanks

Going by the Winnipeg diagrams, if it hits anything above 100 m it would be the 7th tallest building in Winnipeg (CMHR is 100 m tall). Not unrealistic considering TNS II is 24 storeys tall but has a lot of residential floors (i.e. lower heights) and clocks in at 96 m.

Next up is 55 Nassau at 109 m but I can't imagine it would hit that mark.

BAKGUY · #**7075** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 5:10 PM**

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Going by the Winnipeg diagrams, if it hits anything above 100 m it would be the 7th tallest building in Winnipeg (CMHR is 100 m tall). Not unrealistic considering TNS II is 24 storeys tall but has a lot of residential floors (i.e. lower heights) and clocks in at 96 m.

Next up is 55 Nassau at 109 m but I can't imagine it would hit that mark.

Yes, that is what I am thinking. Wawanesa tower will be in our top 10 tallest guaranteed. Might be 7 or 8?
I think the TNS 2 is 25 floors?
The diagram heights and details need to be updated as well as the proposed heights floors on here. I know all this is volunteer info bit it would be nice to have info up to date.

esquire · #**7076** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 5:16 PM**

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Yes, that is what I am thinking. Wawanesa tower will be in our top 10 tallest guaranteed. Might be 7 or 8?
I think the TNS 2 is 25 floors?
The diagram heights and details need to be updated as well as the proposed heights floors on here. I know all this is volunteer info bit it would be nice to have info up to date.

TNS II ranks #9 on the diagram, so if Wawanesa is taller than it has to be at least in 9th place. The question is whether it will be tall enough to surpass MTS Place and CMHR to jump up to 7th. Just eyeballing it, I would have to imagine it will exceed MTS Place which is (again, according to the diagram) as tall as TNS II. But it isn't clear whether it will hit the 100 m height of CMHR.

But that said, this is just going by the diagrams and I'm not sure how accurate that information is. According to the thread title, TNS II is 86.9 m but the diagram puts it between the 94 m Fort Garry Place and the 96 m MTS Place.

Man, it's been a long time since I've had a good discussion like this about heights and rankings

bomberjet · #**7077** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 5:40 PM**

Do they include 300 main? Which will be taller than anything.

Biff · #**7078** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 PM**

New renders from the zoning hearing. The added floors occur in the middle of the building above the first indent (floor 7). The documents say the tip of the "River Fin"(the finished point of the building) is 92.9 m above Level 1. There would be a couple of extra metres for mechanical equipment. I am not sure if "above Level 1" means the height of Level 1 + 92.9 m but I would think it is above street level.

esquire · #**7079** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 6:09 PM**

Nice renderings... once the plans for the west side of Carlton materialize, that will be a fantastic-looking block. It would be nice to see Hydro take advantage of all that activity and build on it by finding a tenant for their podium's southeast corridor instead of just the Rudy's kitchen and Hydro backoffice that currently occupy the space. It's too bad their loading docks are along that stretch.

The tower itself looks pretty hefty and substantial, more so than the thin TNS I and II. It'll be such a great addition to the area. I like how it complements TNS I and II without trying to be identical in an office park kind of way.

So that just leaves the site next to St. Mary's Cathedral left on Carlton for the stretch from Portage to York. I wonder if we'll see anything materialize there?

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Do they include 300 main? Which will be taller than anything.

Yes, that includes 300 Main - it shows up by default when you load up the Winnipeg diagrams.

ywgwalk · #**7080** Posted **Oct 20, 2020, 6:25 PM**

Is it just me or does the shadows on that last diagram indicate a really strange time of year/day?