New BC Political Discussion - POST BC Election 2017 - Page 55

memememe76 · #**1081** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 5:56 PM**

How does one go about requesting a mail in ballot? I may end up just voting in-person at my local district electoral office. You can vote as soon as an election is called, and I already know who I'm voting for. I did this during the most recent federal election because I was going away on holiday. The office was located a couple of blocks from where I live and there was no one else except staff. It was great! Way fewer people than when I get a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Just not sure if the district electoral office will be different from the Elections Canada office.

whatnext · #**1082** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by logicbomb

What an idiotic decision. Pure and simple.

I have NDP supporting friends that lost respect for Horgan et al. I can see many abstaining or voting Green.

They are going to get stomped due to vote splitting with the Greens. The liberal base is united and strong despite having a leader that has the personality of a sponge.

2017 was essentially a protest vote against the Christy Clark.

Again, shame on Horgan and the NDP. Selfish assholes.

Was there this much snowflakery in New Brunswick during their recent election?

chowhou · #**1083** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM**

And Horgan just called it.

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British Columbians heading to the polls on October 24 in fall election

After weeks of public speculation, B.C. Premier John Horgan is calling a fall election during COVID-19 pandemic.

Horgan has asked for the B.C. Legislature to be dissolved and Lieutenant Governor Janet Austin has accepted his request. Election day will be October 24– ahead of the next scheduled election on October 2021.

A recent poll from the Angus Reid Institute suggests if an election were held right now, the NDP would win a massive victory.

The survey suggests 48 per cent of decided voters would choose the NDP, 29 per cent would vote Liberal, and 14 per cent would opt for the Greens.

If accepted, the election will be unlike any other in B.C.’s history, as politicians campaign and the public visits polling stations under a pandemic that has led to more than 200 deaths in the province and more than 950,000 worldwide.

Horgan and Liberal leader Andrew Wilkinson are expected to spend the bulk of the campaign in Metro Vancouver, while newly chosen Green leader Sonia Furstenau will look to grow her party’s existing three seats on Vancouver Island by running candidates in all 87 ridings.

Hamish Telford, University of the Fraser Valley political scientist, told Global News in a recent interview that voters could punish the NDP for triggering a vote during COVID-19.

“There is no apparent need for an election. At least, I think that is what most people think, and he risks a voter backlash,” Telford said.

Elections BC said there will be advanced voting from Friday, Oct. 16 to Wednesday, Oct. 21.

The agency is reminding voters they can cast a ballot by mail in a bid to reduce crowds at polling stations.

Global News

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Was there this much snowflakery in New Brunswick during their recent election?

To be fair, NB had the excuse that the default situation was a forced election by election rules. The NDP are calling an election for opportunistic reasons which may work for their benefit.

djmk · #**1084** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM**

wow.

without actually endorsing them, I think the NDP will win in a landslide

chowhou · #**1085** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by djmk

wow.

without actually endorsing them, I think the NDP will win in a landslide

Depends on how much backlash this will get them. Considering there hasn't been that much political backlash against kids going back to school, I wonder if anyone will actually care about an election?

logicbomb · #**1086** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

Depends on how much backlash this will get them. Considering there hasn't been that much political backlash against kids going back to school, I wonder if anyone will actually care about an election?

Will come down to turnout rate. Anything less than 55% will see a liberal majority.

Liberal voters will vote regardless of what happens. They protested last time and refused to vote for Christy Clark. Some I knew voted Green but they will vote Liberal

NDP voters will need to come out of they hope to have a chance in hell.

I would have voted NDP but their stupid handling of COVID19, cancellation of the Massey Bridge and now selfish snap election will force me Green.

whatnext · #**1087** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

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To be fair, NB had the excuse that the default situation was a forced election by election rules. The NDP are calling an election for opportunistic reasons which may work for their benefit.

Are you sure? I understood the NB Premier simply wanted a stronger mandate, there was no obligation for an election:

....Higgs called a snap election four weeks ago, saying his 21-month-old minority government lacked stability at a difficult time for the province.

His opposition rivals accused him of political opportunism, but Higgs gambled that the electorate wouldn't see things that way, given that he had won widespread praise for his leadership in the face of the rapidly evolving COVID-19 crisis.

During the last week of the campaign, Higgs said he wanted a majority win to ensure the Tories could focus on health care and keeping people safe. He said any other option would put the province at risk....

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/progress...tion-1.5103470

It could go either way. Horgan certainly has a legitimate claim to say he needs a stronger mandate to deal with the unprecedented situation. After all the BC Libs were not shy in claiming he had no mandate when the deal with the Greens was made in 2017. They've survived an extraordinarily long time for a minority.

That said, it concerns me that so many senior ministers decided not to run. I'd like to know if there are deeper reasons, other than the standard "spend more time with family".

The other concerning thing, reference by the Post articles, is that apaprently governments see a lot of economic pain ahead, despite the public optimism.

WarrenC12 · #**1088** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:31 PM**

Very risky. What happens when COVID is running wild and hospitals are jammed on election day?

Dengler Avenue · #**1089** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Very risky. What happens when COVID is running wild and hospitals are jammed on election day?

The Liberals win, I guess.

CivicBlues · #**1090** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:41 PM**

So do we have to request a mail in ballot like the last Federal Election or will people get one if you voted last time? Cause lining up at polling stations in a dingy community centre - fuck that.

chowhou · #**1091** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Are you sure? I understood the NB Premier simply wanted a stronger mandate, there was no obligation for an election

Ah, I'm wrong. Well just goes to show that incumbent parties can call elections and not get punished for it.

Dengler Avenue · #**1092** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 6:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

Ah, I'm wrong. Well just goes to show that incumbent parties can call elections and not get punished for it.

Keep in mind that N.B.'s case numbers have been low (single-digit?) though. B.C. sees an increasing trend instead. Hence, it will go either very well or very badly for B.C. NDP with no other outcome.

Feathered Friend · #**1093** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:02 PM**

For what it's worth, there was a lot of talk on how the recent snap election in New Brunswick would be a huge mistake, and yet the governing PC party came out of it with the majority government they were seeking.

Also, keep in mind the PCs were polling ahead by less of a margin than the NDP are currently. Obviously, it's a different province, but it does set a precedent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_N...#Opinion_polls

WarrenC12 · #**1094** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

For what it's worth, there was a lot of talk on how the recent snap election in New Brunswick would be a huge mistake, and yet the governing PC party came out of it with the majority government they were seeking.

Also, keep in mind the PCs were polling ahead by less of a margin than the NDP are currently. Obviously, it's a different province, but it does set a precedent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_N...#Opinion_polls

I don't think we can read much into NB results. The NDP are taking a huge risk IMO.

What happens if the Greens hold the balance of power again? Horgan might be eating crow.

rofina · #**1095** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

On the contrary, I know several former Liberal supporters that have become keen on the Horgan government, now that they've finally proven that Horgan isn't Glen Clark.

Based on all the polling data, if the NDP call an election it's probably theirs to lose right now, or at the very least it will become a referendum on calling an election during COVID-19.

I'm one of those voters.

I have voted Liberal for as long as I have been in the country, and only voted NDP last cycle when the corruption and ineffectiveness of the Clark government became too much to bare.

3 years later, NDP have done very well. This time around Ill be happily casting an NDP vote.

rofina · #**1096** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

The Liberals win, I guess.

Having Wilkinson lead this province is about as attractive a prospect as eating soggy bread.

WarrenC12 · #**1097** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

Having Wilkinson lead this province is about as attractive a prospect as eating soggy bread.

Yes he needs an image makeover badly.

I don't see the Liberals winning, but I do see a moderately strong possibility the Greens once again hold the balance.

Dengler Avenue · #**1098** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yes he needs an image makeover badly.

I don't see the Liberals winning, but I do see a moderately strong possibility the Greens once again hold the balance.

Why is that? (I'm not familiar with B.C. politics so I'm curious.)

red-paladin · #**1099** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:22 PM**

Let's wrap up this thread as a new election has been called and continue now: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho....php?p=9048920

logicbomb · #**1100** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 7:25 PM**

If I am the Liberals I platform on 3 things:
1) Massey Bridge and Valley Freeway Infrastructure
Improvements with 2025 completion
2) Toughen up on crime and the issues in the DTES
3) Privatize auto insurance. Sell off all ICBC assets to balance the budget and provide relief for taxpayers.
4)Additional funding for Skytrain to Langley

They will get the rural and interior votes regardless of what they do. They just need 3-4 Metro Vancouver ridings to take control.