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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 1:44 AM
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What point? Who has ever put forward the strawman that skin colour is all that should determine affinity and common interests?
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What is most striking is how over the top effusive the panic-infused apologies have been from the offenders.

Just shy of admitting to eating little babies for breakfast.
Gotta admit I've got the popcorn out. It's a freakish and degrading spectacle, this trial by social media.

You know who has balls? JK Rowling. Nothing to do with racism, but related to standing up to the SJW hordes. She's getting crucified for supporting a professor who made the "transphobic" claim that sex is real, that transwomen are not literally women just because they say they are.

Amazing that we're at a place where saying that is controversial. Here's the offending quote that has brought such shrill opprobrium on her:

Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Shocking, isn't it? She's set for life financially, so she can afford to stand her ground, but still, like the cliche goes, sometimes it takes courage to state the truth.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 1:54 AM
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Gotta admit I've got the popcorn out. It's a freakish and degrading spectacle, this trial by social media.

You know who has balls? JK Rowling. Nothing to do with racism, but related to standing up to the SJW hordes. She's getting crucified for supporting a professor who made the "transphobic" claim that sex is real, that transwomen are not literally women just because they say they are.

Amazing that we're at a place where saying that is controversial. Here's the offending quote that has brought such shrill opprobrium on her:

Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Shocking, isn't it? She's set for life financially, so she can afford to stand her ground, but still, like the cliche goes, sometimes it takes courage to state the truth.
I have been watching that too.

"Trans women are (real) women."
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 2:10 AM
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Gotta admit I've got the popcorn out. It's a freakish and degrading spectacle, this trial by social media.

You know who has balls? JK Rowling. Nothing to do with racism, but related to standing up to the SJW hordes. She's getting crucified for supporting a professor who made the "transphobic" claim that sex is real, that transwomen are not literally women just because they say they are.

Amazing that we're at a place where saying that is controversial. Here's the offending quote that has brought such shrill opprobrium on her:

Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Shocking, isn't it? She's set for life financially, so she can afford to stand her ground, but still, like the cliche goes, sometimes it takes courage to state the truth.
Regardless of what you agree or disagree with, this forced acceptance of ideas or beliefs, and social stigmatization of differing opinions is what the right has been calling cultural fascism for awhile now. I think this might now make it more apparent to more people.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 2:16 AM
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Gotta admit I've got the popcorn out. It's a freakish and degrading spectacle, this trial by social media.

You know who has balls? JK Rowling. Nothing to do with racism, but related to standing up to the SJW hordes. She's getting crucified for supporting a professor who made the "transphobic" claim that sex is real, that transwomen are not literally women just because they say they are.

Amazing that we're at a place where saying that is controversial. Here's the offending quote that has brought such shrill opprobrium on her:

Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Shocking, isn't it? She's set for life financially, so she can afford to stand her ground, but still, like the cliche goes, sometimes it takes courage to state the truth.
With all due respect, cancel culture has been going on here for years. It's an old communist tactic.

It's a terrible shame that so few have bothered to pay attention but then that's par for the course in our society. I'd say it's never too late but then that's clearly not the case.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 2:26 AM
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Regardless of what you agree or disagree with, this forced acceptance of ideas or beliefs, and social stigmatization of differing opinions is what the right has been calling cultural fascism for awhile now. I think this might now make it more apparent to more people.
It will be denied vehemently by some and I will be accused of making excuses or worse, but it is very hard to not see this as hurting some causes in the long run.

They may be having their Jerry Maguire speech moment right now. But remember he was applauded initially but fired the next day.
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What you call "cancel culture", I call capitalism. If you're a public figure, you're paid for being agreeable. Nobody owes you a paycheque. Don't like it? Find a different line of work.

I don't agree at all with Mesley getting fired for quoting someone. It's beyond stupid. But it's her employers money. That Jessica Mulroney chick sounds like a moron though. If you make your money from being a socialite, I would think you would at least understand that being broke is important to your bank account.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 4:08 AM
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What you call "cancel culture", I call capitalism. If you're a public figure, you're paid for being agreeable. Nobody owes you a paycheque. Don't like it? Find a different line of work.
I can't for the life of me understand a single solitary part of this comment.

Sounds like you're calling for some form of government that bends to the wishes of the mob and social media.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 4:21 AM
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What you call "cancel culture", I call capitalism.
Naw, it's a witch hunt driven by mass hysteria. Twenty years from now we'll look back in horror at how deranged it was.

     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 4:36 AM
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It will be denied vehemently by some and I will be accused of making excuses or worse, but it is very hard to not see this as hurting some causes in the long run.

They may be having their Jerry Maguire speech moment right now. But remember he was applauded initially but fired the next day.
In the US, the MeToo Democrats/left side of the spectrum shot themselves (and, in a very real way, the world) in the foot by essentially forcing Al Franken out of politics for a tasteless but harmless one-off prank involving pretending to fondle a sleeping acting colleague's boobs while on an army jet to their next show as part of a tour for US military forces. It happened years ago, and he otherwise has no record of harassing people, but the purity police deemed him expendable, so he had to go.

I'm no Christian, but in our otherwise salutary march toward secularism it seems we've forgotten some of the important Biblical parables about being sinless and casting stones. And meanwhile, the current White House bunker occupant, a childish, lying, sexist, sexually-harassing, fraud-committing, nasty, evil asshole with no redeeming qualities that I can think of, sallies forth with nary a twinge of conscience.

Franken would have made a good president. Hell, in the year 2020 anybody with a fucking pulse would make a better president than the current orange douchebag in chief.

So yeah, the mass hysteria has real world consequences.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 5:11 AM
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Put away the strawman shit. Seriously, you guys use that copout response every time you don't want to address a point. If you don't get the point just say so. And I'm not the one making the point--it's the black girl.
Man you need to google strawman and see what you're doing.

You posted an anecdote, maybe not even real. What is your point? A person gets adopted by a loving family of another race, and therefor racism doesn't exist?
     
     
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In the US, the MeToo Democrats/left side of the spectrum shot themselves (and, in a very real way, the world) in the foot by essentially forcing Al Franken out of politics for a tasteless but harmless one-off prank involving pretending to fondle a sleeping acting colleague's boobs while on an army jet to their next show as part of a tour for US military forces. It happened years ago, and he otherwise has no record of harassing people, but the purity police deemed him expendable, so he had to go.

I'm no Christian, but in our otherwise salutary march toward secularism it seems we've forgotten some of the important Biblical parables about being sinless and casting stones. And meanwhile, the current White House bunker occupant, a childish, lying, sexist, sexually-harassing, fraud-committing, nasty, evil asshole with no redeeming qualities that I can think of, sallies forth with nary a twinge of conscience.

Franken would have made a good president. Hell, in the year 2020 anybody with a fucking pulse would make a better president than the current orange douchebag in chief.

So yeah, the mass hysteria has real world consequences.
I expect that Franken will re-enter politics at a suitable time, don't you? He is still active in political discussion media. However, the glass houses concept doesn't seem to matter much to people anymore.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 5:14 AM
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For sure? I have not heard anyone speaking in their own name saying that it was an overreaction and that Mulroney did not deserve what she got.

Including Mulroney herself, actually.
My posts = my opinion. Obviously her employer felt they made the right call by firing her.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 5:15 AM
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What is most striking is how over the top effusive the panic-infused apologies have been from the offenders.

Just shy of admitting to eating little babies for breakfast.
So do you think she should have been fired? You're all over the place on this one.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 5:18 AM
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What you call "cancel culture", I call capitalism. If you're a public figure, you're paid for being agreeable. Nobody owes you a paycheque. Don't like it? Find a different line of work.
Yep. If you're in the spotlight, read the fucking room. If you can't do that, you'll suffer the consequences.

The easiest way forward is to STFU.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 5:19 AM
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Franken would have made a good president. Hell, in the year 2020 anybody with a fucking pulse would make a better president than the current orange douchebag in chief.

So yeah, the mass hysteria has real world consequences.
That's true, but the US Democrats are cowards.
     
     
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That's true, but the US Democrats are cowards.
Because, Bernie Who? Oh yeah, that guy who actually cared about the people.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2020, 5:33 AM
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Yep. If you're in the spotlight, read the fucking room. If you can't do that, you'll suffer the consequences.

The easiest way forward is to STFU.
This is exactly what people were saying in the 50s and 60s to anyone who expressed sympathies for civil rights and antiwar protesters. The attitude was exactly the same. Fer crissakes, do you not see that?

How the pendulum has swung.

Good people are being purged by witch hunts. They are being forced by mobs to confess and plead for forgiveness. Suddenly their employers and friends dare not offer them any support for fear of the mob turning on them. It's mass hysteria. The cultural atmosphere right now is toxic.

It's going to take brave people to push against the pendulum by calling out emperors without clothes. I trust that reason will prevail eventually, but I don't think we've reached the nadir yet.
     
     
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This is exactly what people were saying in the 50s and 60s to anyone who expressed sympathies for civil rights and antiwar protesters. The attitude was exactly the same. Fer crissakes, do you not see that?
If you "read the room" in 1830's New York City you would have kept your abolitionist thoughts to yourself to minimize your chances of being beaten or having your house burned down.

If you "read the room" in 1930's Germany you would have been a Nazi.
     
     
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Gotta admit I've got the popcorn out. It's a freakish and degrading spectacle, this trial by social media.

You know who has balls? JK Rowling. Nothing to do with racism, but related to standing up to the SJW hordes. She's getting crucified for supporting a professor who made the "transphobic" claim that sex is real, that transwomen are not literally women just because they say they are.
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I have been watching that too.

"Trans women are (real) women."
Actually, you guys have it reversed: Trans women (pre-SRS) have balls; JK Rowling doesn't.

(Was the use of this expression intended? I wouldn't put it past rousseau )
     
     
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