Great Canadian Skyline Thread II

[905er]

Originally Posted by Razor

Do people from Mississauga consider themselves Torontonians first?
re: The Marilyn buildings. I just chuckled to myself picturing these two buildings here in Ottawa to shake things up. We just have nothing to trade Mississauga for them.

No. Mississaugans don't consider themselves Torontonians first b/c we're not from Toronto and most are proud of their city. That said, it wasn't uncommon, for people to say that they're from Toronto when asked by someone outside of Canada b/c it is more likely that a foreigner would know Toronto and not Mississauga..

Also, I think something like the Marilyn towers would actually look great in Ottawa to break the tabletop.

[905er]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

For me, bad architecture vs good architecture isn't something that can be decided based on assessing a building in a vacuum. Good architecture is the interplay between a building's function and its aesthetics and its aesthetics and function in relation to its context. I wouldn't look at a building picture or rendering against a white background and say that the architecture is good or bad any further than saying whether or not I can think of any contexts where it would be a good/appropriate match.

Absolute to me screams gritty, edgy, big city excitement and glamour. I can imagine it against a backdrop of brick midrises with exterior metal fire escapes, billboards with florescent lighting, cool bars, night clubs galleries. It would enhance such a setting and the setting would enhance it.

But in a setting surrounded by bland suburban highrises with weird pomo faux-chateaux rooflines and such, it makes me think, "Well, this area is full of tacky low brow shit, so while this might appear kinda cool at first glance, given the context it must actually just be more of that." In other words, you can't elevate 50km of mediocrity by sprinkling it with the odd highlight or exception. You need to raise the baseline. Then the exceptions have a context from which they can shine.

The Marilyn towers actually have elevated the the types of buildings that are being proposed in Mississauga so I think it'll have a great impact overall and over time for Mississauga. The standard of design has been definitely improved and the new condos being proposed across the city but mainly in MCC are far more cutting edge, love them or hate them.. the Rogers development is a prime example. The Square One district, whehter that comes to fruition is also a prime example of that. You can't fault the city and say, well you have a bunch of dull towers with very little character so therefore that is all you should ever have or all you deserve.. If that was the case Saskatoon would never have anything as nice as River landing..(sorry toontown, just the first ex. that came to mind)

The only way to break that cycle of dull boring architecture is to create something different that will push the envelope and Mississauga has achieved that with the Marilyn Towers. These towers have now set the bar high for whatever else gets built in MCC. Quite frankly, there is NO city in Canada that is void of medicore low brow tacky shit... Not even Toronto.. if anything, Toronto has FAR MORE than Mississauga if we're strictly talking in numbers. but that doesn't (nor should it) stop them or any other city from breaking up with that style and pushing limits.. which Toronto clearly has done successfuly.

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[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by 905er

The Marilyn towers actually have elevated the the types of buildings that are being proposed in Mississauga so I think it'll have a great impact overall and over time for Mississauga. The standard of design has been definitely improved and the new condos being proposed across the city but mainly in MCC are far more cutting edge, love them or hate them.. the Rogers development is a prime example. The Square One district, whehter that comes to fruition is also a prime example of that. You can't fault the city and say, well you have a bunch of dull towers with very little character so therefore that is all you should ever have or all you deserve.. If that was the case Saskatoon would never have anything as nice as River landing..(sorry toontown, just the first ex. that came to mind)

The only way to break that cycle of dull boring architecture is to create something different that will push the envelope and Mississauga has achieved that with the Marilyn Towers. These towers have now set the bar high for whatever else gets built in MCC. Quite frankly, there is NO city in Canada that is void of medicore low brow tacky shit... Not even Toronto.. if anything, Toronto has FAR MORE than Mississauga if we're strictly talking in numbers. but that doesn't (nor should it) stop them or any other city from breaking up with that style and pushing limits.. which Toronto clearly has done successfuly.

It's great to hear that design standards are improving. I'm a little curious though; if Absolute is what inspired edgier designs and raised standards, then what inspired Absolute? It makes me wonder if design standards weren't improving over time anyway due to market forces and the city gaining maturity and sophistication over time as it strives toward establishing itself as a distinct entity. Of course it can be very difficult to know sometimes.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by 905er

No. Mississaugans don't consider themselves Torontonians first b/c we're not from Toronto and most are proud of their city. That said, it wasn't uncommon, for people to say that they're from Toronto when asked by someone outside of Canada b/c it is more likely that a foreigner would know Toronto and not Mississauga..

Also, I think something like the Marilyn towers would actually look great in Ottawa to break the tabletop.

Eh. I don't know, does Mississauga really consider itself a separate city from Toronto, or is it more of an outlying area of Toronto (aka suburb). Imo it's the latter. I have yet to hear someone from Miss. tell me they are from there.

In order for Mississauga to truly be a city of its own, it has to have a proper CBD that is the focus of attention for the larger surrounding area.

[905er]

Originally Posted by logan5

Eh. I don't know, does Mississauga really consider itself a separate city from Toronto, or is it more of an outlying area of Toronto (aka suburb). Imo it's the latter. I have yet to hear someone from Miss. tell me they are from there.

In order for Mississauga to truly be a city of its own, it has to have a proper CBD that is the focus of attention for the larger surrounding area.

I doubt very much being that you're in Toronto that you actually know many people from Mississauga then.. Toronto is its own bubble.. In Mississauga, folks say they're from Mississauga.. I've lived in Peel Region my whole life.. I should know. In fact there's a lot of civic pride in the city.

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[rbt]

Originally Posted by 905er

In Mississauga, folks say they're from Mississauga.

The answer to "Where do you live?" tends to change depending on the distance they currently are from home.

In Mississauga: Streetsville, or a nearby major intersection
In the GTA: Mississauga
In USA or Mexico: Toronto
In Japan: Canada

[logan5]

Even outside the GTA, you are going to say Toronto.

[SaskScraper]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

https://www.globeguide.ca/best-spots-take-photos-calgary/

^ Calgary has so many beautiful angles,
I wonder if pic was taken last Spring or Fall 2018 perhaps? (Telus tower half way up).

As much as some SSPers slag Calgary Tower, I love how the red gives a bit of a pop, kind of like an exclamation mark. Calgary skyline would lose something not having a half century old heritage-like landmark like it.

Found photo from my neck-of-the-woods, Here's Saskatoon from North downtown, (since South downtown is getting all the attention lately with Riverlanding development in Saskatoon).



Which reminds me, Saskatoon Ex late Summer makes a beautiful pic too... sigh*


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[Hali87]

Originally Posted by SaskScraper

Here's Saskatoon from North downtown, (since South downtown is getting all the attention lately with Riverlanding development in Saskatoon).

It's like a kinder, gentler Hamilton from that angle. Something about the colour selection (and maybe maintenance) of that cluster of buildings makes them a bit less dour or gritty-looking than many of their counterparts elsewhere.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by SaskScraper

As much as some SSPers slag Calgary Tower, I love how the red gives a bit of a pop, kind of like an exclamation mark. Calgary skyline would lose something not having a half century old heritage-like landmark like it.

I like it too... towers like that make skylines instantly identifiable. When I was a kid I was always a little envious of places like Seattle, Calgary and Toronto that have those types of distinctive towers.

[Black Star]

Absolutely, the Calgary tower is iconic. I remember going there as a kid with my parents....I don't know if i was more thrilled about going to the tower or staying at the 4 Seasons in downtown Calgary lol.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by 905er

No. Mississaugans don't consider themselves Torontonians first b/c we're not from Toronto and most are proud of their city. That said, it wasn't uncommon, for people to say that they're from Toronto when asked by someone outside of Canada b/c it is more likely that a foreigner would know Toronto and not Mississauga..

Also, I think something like the Marilyn towers would actually look great in Ottawa to break the tabletop.

As in the Place des Peuples towers proposed by Brigil in Gatineau. (Close enough.)

[905er]

Originally Posted by Acajack

As in the Place des Peuples towers proposed by Brigil in Gatineau. (Close enough.)

Correct!

[Hali87]

Originally Posted by esquire

I like it too... towers like that make skylines instantly identifiable. When I was a kid I was always a little envious of places like Seattle, Calgary and Toronto that have those types of distinctive towers.

I think it's neat, and the era of building that kind of tower is over. It's a bit expensive to actually use the elevator though.

There was actually a proposal for this type of observation tower on the Halifax waterfront about 10 years ago (as part of a larger development) but it was shot down for "being too much like the CN Tower" although there were never any detailed renderings of it. Even the conceptual models of it seem to have all been removed from the internet.

The new equivalent of these kinds of towers seems to be the Giant Ferris Wheel.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by 905er

That said, it wasn't uncommon, for people to say that they're from Toronto when asked by someone outside of Canada b/c it is more likely that a foreigner would know Toronto and not Mississauga..

That goes for just about every city on the globe. Unless you live an hour or 2 away you would generally just tell a stranger you are from the major centre closest to where you live.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Hali87

The new equivalent of these kinds of towers seems to be the Giant Ferris Wheel.

Yeah, those have become fairly common in the last 10-15 years. But they tend to be nowhere near as tall as observation decks on towers. For instance, even the London Eye comes nowhere near the Calgary Tower in height... 135 m vs. 191 m. And a ride around the wheel doesn't provide the same opportunity to gaze at the city for as long as the average SSPer might like to.

I've been on a few of those wheels but generally I'm not a huge fan.

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