Long term repercussions from Covid-19 what will they be?

[goodgrowth]

Newfoundland announced today that virtual doctor appointments will be covered under the provincial health insurance.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by misher

They will depending on how Trudeau does. The last election was pretty close as the Liberals won by a small margin in many areas.

Probably his response to the current crisis will be what Trudeau is remembered for.

If we enter a prolonged recession it won't matter what the Liberals have done, people will be pissed. The ones who suffer the most from a prolonged recession are likely Liberal voters too.

I'm predicting an economic depression if we keep having to do what we're doing now for two months or longer. But I also can't see a federal election happening for quite awhile. MPs don't want to risk losing their jobs in times like now. It's also times like now where a party like the NDP could get a big surge in support if Singh focuses on economic, poverty and unemployment issues.

[casper]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Don't count on it. Remember Vancouver is the ONLY city in Canada to have an urban slum which it has been more than willing to let fester for half a century. Neither Vancouver nor BC in general has ever shown any real interest in solving it's housing and poverty crisis and there is no reason to think they ever will.

For decades the city and the province have tried to solve that problem. There are no shortage of non-profits created and funded by the government to try to make in roads. That includes housing societies, social service organisations, even a bank/cheque clearing service.

It is an extremely complex and difficult problem to solve.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by casper

For decades the city and the province have tried to solve that problem. There are no shortage of non-profits created and funded by the government to try to make in roads. That includes housing societies, social service organisations, even a bank/cheque clearing service.

It is an extremely complex and difficult problem to solve.

Since other provinces are closing their borders against fellow Canadians maybe BC should deport all those addicts and welfare users who weren’t born in BC back to their home province. Purely due to the DTES health emergency of course.

[misher]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Since other provinces are closing their borders against fellow Canadians maybe BC should deport all those addicts and welfare users who weren’t born in BC back to their home province. Purely due to the DTES health emergency of course.

Once politicians solve the problems that got them elected people won’t vote for them anymore. It’s a catch-22.

I do agree though that people who have never worked in a province and were not born there shouldn’t be able to just move here and collect welfare.

[goodgrowth]

I wonder what the impact on sports leagues will be. I could see even if we get to a point where we can resume normal life that restrictions on large crowds will continued to be implemented for a while...

I think next season could just as easily be cancelled as this season.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Loco101

I'm predicting an economic depression if we keep having to do what we're doing now for two months or longer. But I also can't see a federal election happening for quite awhile. MPs don't want to risk losing their jobs in times like now. It's also times like now where a party like the NDP could get a big surge in support if Singh focuses on economic, poverty and unemployment issues.

I would see it as being incredibly irresponsible for a party (or parties) to force an election at this time.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I would see it as being incredibly irresponsible for a party (or parties) to force an election at this time.

It's inconceivable.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I would see it as being incredibly irresponsible for a party (or parties) to force an election at this time.

I would expect it to be shortly after the situation is "resolved" in some sense. Trudeau shouldn't be complacent. He'd do well to remember that after Churchill led Britian through it's finest hour, British voters promptly tossed him out in 1945.

[thurmas]

Originally Posted by Loco101

I'm predicting an economic depression if we keep having to do what we're doing now for two months or longer. But I also can't see a federal election happening for quite awhile. MPs don't want to risk losing their jobs in times like now. It's also times like now where a party like the NDP could get a big surge in support if Singh focuses on economic, poverty and unemployment issues.

Singh has shown zero interest in focusing on that and it's not his strength he only likes to focus on being woker than thou. He is just another Trudeau type flake politician.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I would expect it to be shortly after the situation is "resolved" in some sense. Trudeau shouldn't be complacent. He'd do well to remember that after Churchill led Britian through it's finest hour, British voters promptly tossed him out in 1945.

By all accounts, Churchill was a pretty crappy non-war leader.

Trudeau may be the same, but as we saw in 2019, you need some level of competency as an alternative. All else equal, I see Trudeau beating both O'Toole and MacKay right now. The CPC appears to have learned nothing.

[Doady]

Seeing a photograph from Florida from this past week made me think Canada might benefit a lot from this epidemic in the long run.

I was kinda glad the USA fainlly became a democracy and the people down there finally got a president that represents them in almost every way. But he responds to the epidemic with the same shrug of shoulders as them and focusing more on trying to exploit for personal gain as they do (like calling it the "Chinese virus"), and now I start to be concerned for them.

Thinking in Canada is more about the neighbour, the wider community, the bigger picture, the long-term. USA is all about individual, self, short-term. Even something as basic as public transportation is beyond their grasp down there, let alone controlling COVID-19. Controlling epidemic requires less bottom-up approach and more top-down approach, less thinking in terms of the self and the short term and much more in terms of the bigger picture, maybe too much for the people of USA, and they will fall behind Canada as a result.

[jmt18325]

I think that our comfortable existence is over...for a very long time.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

By all accounts, Churchill was a pretty crappy non-war leader.

Trudeau may be the same, but as we saw in 2019, you need some level of competency as an alternative. All else equal, I see Trudeau beating both O'Toole and MacKay right now. The CPC appears to have learned nothing.

Opposition parties seem virtually absent from the public eye right now - this is true federally and also in most of the provinces AFAIK.

Justin Trudeau is very much a good times (sunny ways ) type of leader.

Something like this is pretty damn challenging for him I would wager.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Something like this is pretty damn challenging for him I would wager.

I agree, but I also think he is handling this well. His press conferences are confident, but with a forceful message on what we should be doing.

Considering his wife got it, and he's under self isolation... can't blame him for too much right now.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

By all accounts, Churchill was a pretty crappy non-war leader.

Trudeau may be the same, but as we saw in 2019, you need some level of competency as an alternative. All else equal, I see Trudeau beating both O'Toole and MacKay right now. The CPC appears to have learned nothing.

Yes as long as the Cons keep allowing the far-right to drag them down they will unelectable. I don’t foresee that changing as the far-right fringe is now like a pack of rabid dogs, infecting the other members, and not willing to listen to reason anytime soon.

[LakeLocker]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

I think that our comfortable existence is over...for a very long time.

Hard times make hard men.

Hard men make soft times.

Soft times make soft men.

Soft men make hard times.


My hometown use to have one of the highest unemployment rates in the country, now we are one of the most economically stable parts of the country. The new currency will be wild blue berries, quarts of moose, and firewood.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Opposition parties seem virtually absent from the public eye right now - this is true federally and also in most of the provinces AFAIK.

Justin Trudeau is very much a good times (sunny ways ) type of leader.

Something like this is pretty damn challenging for him I would wager.

When the going gets tough - his TV appearances this past week have been pretty much flawless.

[someone123]

I wonder what impact this will have on old folks' homes. The ones I've seen were pretty depressing to begin with. It doesn't seem great socially to cloister elderly people away from the rest of society during normal times and then in times like this or even just in bad flu seasons the care comes become a nightmare.

Can we move to a model that's more like fostering but for elderly, where some of them live with aides, or even family members who are given more funding to make things easier? I guess it's challenging since so many have special needs (up to and including people who are completely out of it and will burn a house down, etc.). The ones who don't mostly don't need to live in care homes to begin with.

[WarrenC12]

Article on Trudeau:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/world/canada/justin-trudeau-coronavirus.html

Easy to look good next to the orange baboon, but I think he's handling this very well so far.