YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 755

trofirhen · #**15081** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 6:30 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Case to be made for YQB service. Decent GRU demand as well.

https://www.anna.aero/2020/03/02/air-canadas-top-20-connecting-markets-ottawa-victoria-1/

Assuming that the Covid 19 virus scare will diminish in time and ultimately allow air travel to return to "normal," then yes, YQB from Vancouver would, of course, be good.
A flight to GRU would be a major breakthrough for YVR, and, unless SEA gets to it first, this would be a major step up for YVR.
Several years back, Johnny Aussie posted about how he was reading flight stastics, and found surprisingly high O&D traffic between Vancouver and Brazil.
How great it would be if that traffic supported a YVR-GRU flight. That would make YVR a 5-continent airport, again.

Klazu · #**15082** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 2:43 AM**

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong...acific-close-vancouver-base-june-putting

thenoflyzone · #**15083** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 3:35 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

I'm surprised YVR-YHZ wasn't on the list; I've just bought my 4th trip tickets (rolling 9 month period).

One word. WestJet.

WestJet has a big chunk of the pie when it comes to YVR-YHZ. As opposed to very little chunk when it comes to YVR-YQB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klazu

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong...acific-close-vancouver-base-june-putting

With the end of CX on YVR-JFK, it was only a matter of time before this happened.

whatnext · #**15084** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 6:44 AM**

Cathay closing their Vancouver crew base. Not surprising given the dropping of the YVR-JFK Leg.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong...acific-close-vancouver-base-june-putting

zahav · #**15085** Posted **Mar 7, 2020, 4:18 AM**

Unfortunate news about CX closing the base but it was inevitable, they have been hit by so many factors cutting back their growth worldwide. They closed their YYZ base last year too, and (like others mentioned), the JFK cut made the base redundant.

Everything is cyclical, the industry is in flux right now coming off years of pretty consistent expansion so a slowdown was in sight. But this is way worse than anyone would've thought, due to the virus and other factors

whatnext · #**15086** Posted **Mar 10, 2020, 11:43 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

QF will continue its SYD-YVR next winter. With the retirement of the 744 fleet the route will once again fly during the Northern Winter. Frequency stays at 3 weekly but will be operated by Qantas's 789s instead. In addition the period will be extended from 12 December through 27 Feb 2021. The route will continue to operate this summer as well 3 weekly on the 744 for the peak summer.

Sounds like the QF SYD-YVR has been cancelled for the summer, so we won't see the 744 again.

...On other North American routes, Qantas will delay the beginning of new Chicago-Brisbane flights from April 15 until mid-September. The A380s currently flying from Sydney to Dallas/Ft. Worth and from Melbourne to Los Angeles will be replaced by 787s on April 20 and June 1 respectively. And Qantas will suspend its seasonal Sydney-Vancouver service during June and July. The airline’s 787s have 250 fewer seats than its A380s....

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/In...ronavirus-15118277.php#item-85307-tbla-5

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**15087** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 1:45 AM**

i don't think it effect YVR, but Air Canada has suspended all flights to Italy for the time being.

on another note, i went to the expansion at the outlet mall, it looks nice. its quite a nice mall. good job YVR

CareerShow · #**15088** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 6:27 AM**

United is suspending Houston in April as well....

zahav · #**15089** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 6:38 AM**

Surprised no one has posted the January stats? They are up on the website, too lazy now to post everything but wanted to announce that they were posted, in case people don't check their page regularly

All in all, very flat results as expected, I actually thought it would be worse. Europe and Misc. up pretty decently, but Asia-Pac and transborder down, so international was flat. Domestic flat too, down slightly. I am dreading Feb and March

Johnny Aussie · #**15090** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 7:41 AM**

Nothing to “dread.”

It’s going to be bad.. that’s the reality. Out of anyone’s control.

Onwards and upwards... the world will recover and life will go on...

JAN 2020 STATS

https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/facts-sheets/2020/01-january/traffic-update.pdf

Domestic down 0.5%
Intl down 0.04%
Overall down 0.3%

connect2source · #**15091** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 12:59 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Nothing to “dread.”

It’s going to be bad.. that’s the reality. Out of anyone’s control.

Onwards and upwards... the world will recover and life will go on...

JAN 2020 STATS

https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/facts-sheets/2020/01-january/traffic-update.pdf

Domestic down 0.5%
Intl down 0.04%
Overall down 0.3%

I suspect February and March will be far worse. YVR is not alone, however, every major airport in the world will be down. Surprised by the 7.6% bump in European numbers tho!

thenoflyzone · #**15092** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 6:37 PM**

January was YVR's only real chance at positive overall results in a month this year. A teaser of things to come. Brace yourselves....

whatnext · #**15093** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 7:17 PM**

India has suspended most travel visas, so there go the DEL flights.

zahav · #**15094** Posted **Mar 12, 2020, 5:11 AM**

Delete

Johnny Aussie · #**15095** Posted **Mar 12, 2020, 9:28 AM**

So trans Pacific hit hard but now it looks like a massive hit for trans Atlantic.
So any airport with large trans Atlantic operations set to take a huge hit too.

casper · #**15096** Posted **Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

So trans Pacific hit hard but now it looks like a massive hit for trans Atlantic.
So any airport with large trans Atlantic operations set to take a huge hit too.

Had a look at some of the European airlines press release and most are keeping the Canadian flying and canceling US flights. That may force more connections through Canada. Hard to tell how the dust will settle.

s211 · #**15097** Posted **Mar 12, 2020, 8:32 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper

Had a look at some of the European airlines press release and most are keeping the Canadian flying and canceling US flights. That may force more connections through Canada. Hard to tell how the dust will settle.

That loophole wouldn't last long, I'd hazard.

thenoflyzone · #**15098** Posted **Mar 12, 2020, 10:55 PM**

There is no loophole. Good luck passing US CBP at YVR (or the border) with a French or German passport. You will need to prove you’ve been in Canada for 14 days, or else no entry.

Most European carriers are still flying here because of Canadian O&D. Not because there is a US connection goldmine all of a sudden.

Btw, the DHS memo doesn’t say European airlines can’t fly to the US. It simply says that foreign nationals who have been in EU countries will be refused entry.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/home...lf-s-statement-presidential-proclamation

whatnext · #**15099** Posted **Mar 12, 2020, 11:47 PM**

This might benefit Canadian freight forwarders, as any thing going Europe-USA by air would now have to go through Canada.

teriyaki · #**15100** Posted **Mar 13, 2020, 12:29 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnext

This might benefit Canadian freight forwarders, as any thing going Europe-USA by air would now have to go through Canada.

Is freight included in the ban? I thought cargo was not supposed to be part of the measures