YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by nname

Taiwan just released the January airport statistics.

LF for YVR-TPE were 94% for AC, and 96% for BR and CI

LF for the TPE->YVR direction were 100% for AC, 99% for BR and 98% for CI

Now waiting for the Feb stats...

Those are some astounding numbers. I was thinking if anything special was happening for the month of January and just remembered that the election in Taiwan was happening. Could attribute some of the traffic YVR-TPE and vice versa as people headed back for election and coinciding with CNY.

I'm actually looking for a one way flight back from Asia, and TPE is the cheapest option one way atm which is why I was surprised at the 100% load factor considering the "discount" they're pricing for in Feb at the moment.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Hourglass

With COVID-19 spreading well beyond Asia to Italy (and now Switzerland and Austria) and Iran, I think the travel industry is in for a really rough ride for the next few months.

Already happening:

Airlines rattled by the coronavirus rushed to cut costs on Wednesday, as warnings of a pandemic deepened concern about the scale of the impact on aviation and other front-line sectors.

Austerity measures ordered by Germany’s Lufthansa and Amsterdam-based KLM include unpaid staff leave and hiring freezes, while Virgin Australia dropped seven planes from its fleet and said pilot redundancies were likely.

“We urge you all to reduce your cost levels to a minimum level to ensure safe operations,” KLM Chief Financial Officer Erik Swelheim wrote in a message to executives first reported by Dutch news agency ANP. “Only ‘must-do’ expenditure is allowed.”...

...Virgin Australia’s abrupt cuts were accompanied by warnings of a A$75 million ($49 million) earnings hit as the global health scare saps demand. Rival Qantas has grounded some 18 planes and halted recruitment.

Lufthansa will be turning away cabin crew trainees without jobs and “offering employees unpaid leave, effective immediately,” it said in a statement on Wednesday....

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business...ash-costs-as-coronavirus-crisis-deepens/

[s211]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Already happening:

Airlines rattled by the coronavirus rushed to cut costs on Wednesday, as warnings of a pandemic deepened concern about the scale of the impact on aviation and other front-line sectors.

Austerity measures ordered by Germany’s Lufthansa and Amsterdam-based KLM include unpaid staff leave and hiring freezes, while Virgin Australia dropped seven planes from its fleet and said pilot redundancies were likely.

“We urge you all to reduce your cost levels to a minimum level to ensure safe operations,” KLM Chief Financial Officer Erik Swelheim wrote in a message to executives first reported by Dutch news agency ANP. “Only ‘must-do’ expenditure is allowed.”...

...Virgin Australia’s abrupt cuts were accompanied by warnings of a A$75 million ($49 million) earnings hit as the global health scare saps demand. Rival Qantas has grounded some 18 planes and halted recruitment.

Lufthansa will be turning away cabin crew trainees without jobs and “offering employees unpaid leave, effective immediately,” it said in a statement on Wednesday....

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business...ash-costs-as-coronavirus-crisis-deepens/

Yup. Welcome our new Black Swan event.

[casper]

Originally Posted by s211

Yup. Welcome our new Black Swan event.

It is going to be interesting to see how this pans out.

After 9/11 the industry contracted quite a bit. I was living in Saskatoon at the time. Prior to 9/11 the local regional flights were on regional jets Air Canada got from Canadian. Just after 9/11 we were on Dash-8/100 with a third the seats for a year or two. Airlines parked a lot of older less efficient aircraft. Much easier to get an upgrade. That is about the time they got rid of complimentary meals on most domestic flights.

For our two domestic airlines they are probably going to be less worried about getting the MAX flying again. I suspect both will accelerate the retirement of their 767.

For the airport it may provide a bit of breathing room to get caught up on all the new construction.

[s211]

Originally Posted by casper

It is going to be interesting to see how this pans out.

It's getting insane. A big houseware/gift show in Chicago just got cancelled.

"The International Housewares Association calls off a show that brings nearly 60,000 people who book more than 47,000 room nights at area hotels."

For Pete's sake: talk about living in fear.

[nname]

Originally Posted by s211

It's getting insane. A big houseware/gift show in Chicago just got cancelled.

Well, Japan cancelled the entire Cherry Blossom season. And many sporting events across Asia are cancelled too...

If they cannot contain this virus soon enough, there's likely no Olympics this year too...

[Johnny Aussie]

And... a big gaming programming show in SFO “postponed” that’s 26,000 delegates. Plus a friend of mine living in Kyoto, her kids’ school closed for at least the next 4 weeks.

One of our big events here, the Australian Grand Prix, was just confirmed on Friday that it is going ahead as planned. Great because I’m going!

[nname]

AC continues to reduce Asia service through S20.

Now until end of August...

YVR-KIX down to 5x weekly 788
YVR-ICN down to daily 788

YVR-BNE up to daily 789 though.

AC still haven't remove the 2x daily LHR from schedule...

US mainline service:

YVR-ANC reduced from 2x daily 319+7M8 to 1x daily 321
YVR-EWR up from 2x daily 788+319 to 2x daily 789+319

New route YVR-SNA... year-round starting June 15
AC576 YVR 0900 - 1159 SNA 319 D
AC577 SNA 1240 - 1527 YVR 319 D

Not sure if this will reduce LAX... 1x daily YVR-LAX is still scheduled with 7M8, one of the few still left in S20 schedule.

Others:

YVR-YYZ 4x daily Mainline 321+321+763 replaced by 3x daily Rouge 763
YVR-LAX reduce from 2x daily to 1x daily (same as last year)


Some preview for W20 schedule..

YVR-PEK, PVG, HKG continues to be 789
YVR-ICN back to 789
YVR-BNE continues to be 789
YVR-MEL resumes 4x weekly 789
YVR-AKL up to 4x weekly 789

[Johnny Aussie]

With reference to the new route on AC to SNA.

This makes 20 daily flights YVR-California on AC this summer.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

With reference to the new route on AC to SNA.

This makes 20 daily flights YVR-California on AC this summer.

That's a surprised though... I thought there's no slot for SNA....?

[nname]

Press release for the new SNA flight:

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2020-03-...er-to-Orange-County-Santa-Ana-California

[casper]

Originally Posted by s211

It's getting insane. A big houseware/gift show in Chicago just got cancelled.

"The International Housewares Association calls off a show that brings nearly 60,000 people who book more than 47,000 room nights at area hotels."

For Pete's sake: talk about living in fear.

I was all booked to attending MWC Barcelona a few weeks ago. That event typically gets around 80,000 to 100,000 attendees.

Facebook pulled there participation, then Samsung, then a few more. The organizers basically canceled the entire event.

[SpongeG]

3 new cases in BC today, all linked to Iran. Brings BC up to 12. Iran and Egypt are being hit hard. The USA has warned its citizens to avoid going to Italy. I think it's going to keep getting worse. Some have contracted it from surfaces.

[Johnny Aussie]

QF will continue its SYD-YVR next winter. With the retirement of the 744 fleet the route will once again fly during the Northern Winter. Frequency stays at 3 weekly but will be operated by Qantas's 789s instead. In addition the period will be extended from 12 December through 27 Feb 2021. The route will continue to operate this summer as well 3 weekly on the 744 for the peak summer.

[thenoflyzone]

Case to be made for YQB service. Decent GRU demand as well.

https://www.anna.aero/2020/03/02/air-canadas-top-20-connecting-markets-ottawa-victoria-1/

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

3 new cases in BC today, all linked to Iran. Brings BC up to 12. Iran and Egypt are being hit hard. The USA has warned its citizens to avoid going to Italy. I think it's going to keep getting worse. Some have contracted it from surfaces.

I think the peak for the virus in the US and Europe is still a long way off. This is going to have a huge impact on air travel globally. Cathay Pacific has cancelled 75% of their flights in March. Lufthansa just announced they are grounding 150 planes. I wonder when Air Canada will start cutting capacity.

[nname]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Case to be made for YQB service. Decent GRU demand as well.

https://www.anna.aero/2020/03/02/air-canadas-top-20-connecting-markets-ottawa-victoria-1/

But I'm sure AC would start YYZ-YZF first

[YVR Bruce]

Originally Posted by nname

But I'm sure AC would start YYZ-YZF first

I'm surprised YVR-YHZ wasn't on the list; I've just bought my 4th trip tickets (rolling 9 month period).

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

3 new cases in BC today, all linked to Iran. Brings BC up to 12. Iran and Egypt are being hit hard. The USA has warned its citizens to avoid going to Italy. I think it's going to keep getting worse. Some have contracted it from surfaces.

All Iranese dual-citizens are trying to get out of the country as estimates are that infections are counted in tens of thousands and deaths in at least hundreds. Even 25 of the members of the parliament are infected and several have died!

Yeah, airline and travel industry are definitely in for a catastrophic year. I have been holding off from booking flights this year to hold off and see how situation evolves.

[dharper]

Citytv News clip about how Covid 19 is affecting YVR

https://www.citynews1130.com/video/2020/03/04/coronavirus-impacts-air-travel-industry/