Canadian City Proposals - Page 698

TorontoDrew · #**13941** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

It's a massive wall of hotel chain architecture. There's much to hate about it. It's probably too much to expect developers to build something that isn't from the Hyatt catalog and, at least, beige stucco chateau inspired nonsense has gone the way of the Dodo.

I agree with you 100%. It's strange that a town that has such high demmand for hotels with low vacancy rates even in the dead of winter can't come up with a tougher design board. "If you want to build in our town these are the design guidelines you must follow".

Yes that is 1980's Toronto in the BG (Kids in the Hall)

TorontoDrew · #**13942** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 6:15 PM**

Good news for interesting infill.

This was approved today despite the cities opposition.

source: urbantoronto.ca
Address 217 Adelaide St W, Toronto, Ontario
Category Hotel, Office, Retail
Status Pre-Construction
Number of Buildings 1
Height 352 ft / 107 m
Storeys 25
Developer Humbold Properties
Architect Kirkor Architects Planners
Landscape Architect Terraplan/Studio TLA

VantageHD · #**13943** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 7:59 PM**

She's a beauty!

WhipperSnapper · #**13944** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 9:50 PM**

The city was right to oppose this. I can't believe it got approved!

Chadillaccc · #**13945** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:00 PM**

Why? It looks sweet. Any non-offensive building that isn't just a rectangle is a win for Toronto.

Black Star · #**13946** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:06 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Good news for interesting infill.

This was approved today despite the cities opposition.

source: urbantoronto.ca
Address 217 Adelaide St W, Toronto, Ontario
Category Hotel, Office, Retail
Status Pre-Construction
Number of Buildings 1
Height 352 ft / 107 m
Storeys 25
Developer Humbold Properties
Architect Kirkor Architects Planners
Landscape Architect Terraplan/Studio TLA

This is wicked...anyone who says other wise could be blind or miserable.

yaletown_fella · #**13947** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:10 PM**

It's garish and awkwardly squeezed in between its neighbors.

suburbanite · #**13948** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:23 PM**

To be fair to this building, it's more the next door neighbours that are completely out of place and forcing it to look squashed. 19 Duncan is one of the biggest travesties of the Entertainment District.

zahav · #**13949** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 11:24 PM**

I have no neighbourhood context (being from Vancouver, not Toronto) but the building itself isn't bad at all for infill! It is hard to tell from the rendering, but will the windows on the left be right beside the neighbouring tower?

WhipperSnapper · #**13950** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 11:25 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Why? It looks sweet. Any non-offensive building that isn't just a rectangle is a win for Toronto.

The design is irrelevant. There's not enough separation. One less tower with this design isn't going to make a difference. There's a dozen more like it.

Metro-One · #**13951** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 11:49 PM**

What is so bad with having towers so close together? Gives a Manhattan/ strong urban feel IMO.

For example this office proposal in Vancouver has come back alive this week, wedged between two existing buildings on a really narrow plot, looks great if you were to ask me.

Link: http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/619-675whastings/documents/4ModelandRenderings.pdf

http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/619-675whastings/documents/4ModelandRenderings.pdf

suburbanite · #**13952** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 12:01 AM**

That tower is integrated much better with its neighbours. It's larger, but it matches the setbacks and maintains a consistent street wall.

It's a great comparison to show the differences in quality we've come to expect out of Vancouver compared to Toronto.

WhipperSnapper · #**13953** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 12:18 AM**

Nothing as long as they are appropriately designed to wedge in. 217 Adelaide's hotel suites are millimetres from the lot line.

sufficient (not great by any means)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6683447,...tVdRHrBfNLmIW3K6Gkt9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

not okay
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6684046,...UmStaBBH6AIar3PME40dA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

koops65 · #**13954** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 4:11 AM**

The latest news about 217 Adelaide is that it's office, with no hotel or residential component at all.

MonkeyRonin · #**13955** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 4:03 PM**

The Rhodes

GeneralLea · #**13956** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 6:07 PM**

Looks like it could be off Lawrence....just a bad guess.

MonkeyRonin · #**13957** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 6:56 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralLeeTPHLS

Looks like it could be off Lawrence....just a bad guess.

Not too far off - it's on Bathurst just south of Eglinton: https://goo.gl/maps/SFiJFdaamYQ6gEYT7

scryer · #**13958** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 10:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Shift

Another massive project heading to Council Monday:

Bosa Bluesky's 'Brightside' on the former Brick site.

40-Storey Residential with Retail at grade (Phase 1)
50-Storey Residential with 17-Storey Office podium (Phase 2)
50-Storey Residential with 8-Storey podium including 200 rental units (Phase 3)
Large commercial / market hall building in centre of site

Again because I am quoting, I can be forgiven for stealing

.

This is another proposal going to Surrey city council (a suburb of Vancouver). This area would be just north of Surrey Central Skytrain station.

MonkeyRonin · #**13959** Posted **Mar 9, 2020, 2:42 PM**

110 Adelaide St. East

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2020/03/42-storey-mixed-use-tower-proposed-opposite-st-james-park

Centennial College A-Block Addition

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2020/03/centennial-college-unveils-progress-campus-expansion

1488 Queen St. West

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2020/03/29-unit-infill-building-proposed-1488-queen-west-parkdale

1924 Eglinton West

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2020/02/1924-eglinton-west-rental-proposal-tabled-site-plan-approval

The Thornhill

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2020/02/thornhill-bring-pedestrian-friendly-changes-bathurst-street

WhipperSnapper · #**13960** Posted **Mar 9, 2020, 3:47 PM**

110 Adelaide is yet another contextually supertall tower with 90% coverage yielding no setbacks. I guess it's well above 20 FSI.