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Old Posted Feb 18, 2020, 1:54 PM
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Just thinking, does The Bay still have a store in Place d'Orléans?
I had to think about it, but yes. It's at the west end of the mall. The Transitway entrance is right next to the HBC doors, but I never notice it (had to check the map for that).

Retailers seem to shut down everything at once. They don't take action until its too late. Very few seem to have the foresight to close the under-preforming stores and maintain the profitable ones only.

I do hope HBC can get their act together, but it doesn't seem like they will. At the moment, it's run like a real estate business. Once they've liquidated all assets, nothing will be left to keep them going.
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"...what’s going on with retail..."
Big-Box store!
Train Yards, Costco, Walmart Supercentre, Shoppers Drug Mart, Best Buy, Superstore, Independent, Dollarama, Value Village, …
retail is doing fine by losing the expensive mall!
What acottawa said. Also, by going to that format, they dramatically reduce their local tax contribution and shift the burden onto the general population. Not a great long-term business model.
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Is there still a Calendar Club at Carlingwood mall?
I can find nothing about it on internet.
(Is there one at Bayshore? It's not on the Bayshore store list)

Update: I was told "Our Ottawa locations have closed for the season."

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Is there still a Calendar Club at Carlingwood mall?
I can find nothing about it on internet.
(Is there one at Bayshore? It's not on the Bayshore store list)
At Bayshore, it is in ground floor I think.. near the Bay
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The worrisome remake of our traditional main streets

Kelly Egan, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: March 2, 2020


Our traditional main streets still have lots of stores, squeezed in between all that coffee.

But there are some things harder and harder to find on Ottawa’s urban mains: bookstores, music shops, hardwares, department stores of any size, big grocery outlets, newsstands, movie theatres, shoe stores, old-style “corner” stores, and now toy stores.

The demise of Mrs. Tiggy Winkle’s is a blow to the entire city and a reminder that the main street of your youth is gone, never to come back. But cheer up, here’s a $2 doughnut.

A fitness centre beside a yoga studio, next to a chiropractor, adjacent to a Bridgehead, beside a bank below a condo, alongside a trendy restaurant that will die in two years, is not a far-off description of what you see along stretches of Wellington, Bank, Rideau or Elgin.

Sure, Tiggy Winkle’s was just an independent toy store — six outlets at its peak. But is its demise telling us something important about the neighbourhoods we’re building and the perilous future of the family-owned independent, yet another canary in retail’s coal mine?

Eira MacDonell is the general manager of Mrs. Tiggy Winkle’s, which is closing the last of its stores — the flagship on Bank Street in the Glebe — this month.

She has been there for 38 of the store’s 43 years. So it’s been a life’s work. She’s not interested in blaming customers for changes in shopping habits but points to factors, some well-known, others not.

For one thing, everyone from Canadian Tire to Costco to Shoppers to Loblaws is selling toys. Platforms like Facebook and Kijiji have made the resale of toys that much easier. There are parent-led online sites where toys are swapped or given away for free. Nothing wrong with that, she says, but it all begins to add up.

Not to mention that today’s child has a list for Santa that is heavy digital or electronic, which is not Tiggy Winkle’s strength. And looming over everything is the spectre of online shopping which, for a small retailer, can be a killer on price, convenience and availability.

(Let’s just call it “ironic” that all of those people sitting in coffee shops possibly ordering merchandise online are helping destroy the little store next door where — imagine the horror — they could just walk in, try it and take it home, delivery included!)

MacDonell was asked about whether the traditional main street suffers from the loss of family-owned independents.

“100 per cent agree. I know we are leaving big holes in both the Bank and Wellington neighbourhoods.” The stores created “an energy” that you would translate to the street, she said.

Indeed, customers were so sad at the news that a “memory wall” has been created in the store to showcase all the kind letters, notes and messages. “Some of the letters from children just melt my heart.”

Along a nearby stretch of Bank, there is another bit of news too timely not to mention. The city’s longest-running independent music retailer, Compact Music, is closing one of its two locations to make way for a pot shop. And doesn’t that say everything about the times we live in?

Some interesting statistics from a report done for the Wellington West BIA, which supports one of the more buzzworthy strips in the city.

Of the roughly 550 businesses, the leading category in 2018 was “professional services” at 30 per cent, followed by “health and beauty” at 18 per cent, restaurants at 15 and stores and boutiques at 13.

Another way of putting that? Increasingly, our traditional main streets are turning into service hubs, not places we buy goods. Maybe that’s nothing to worry about. Or, if you’re trying to buy a pair of shoes, a book or a box of nails, maybe it is.

Dennis Van Staalduinen is executive director of the BIA. He worries about anything that hurts the bottom line — hits to revenue from societal trends like online shopping, or higher costs from rent or taxes.

More people are an important part of the solution, he says. All those new residential towers — along or near LRT — represent hundreds of new customers and more foot traffic.

“You’d be foolish to look at the trends towards urbanization and intensification and think (main streets) are going to go away anytime soon. But the face of the urban main street is going to change.”

You know, we could sit here all day and get nostalgic about businesses that are nevermore, from Joe Feller to Freiman’s to Rankin’s Hardware to the Rialto theatre.

But this is not about nostalgia. It’s about whether we’re creating main streets where, aside from coffee and coriander, there’s nothing much to buy.

To contact Kelly Egan, please call 613-726-5896 or email [email protected]
Twitter: @KellyEganColumn

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/column...e-remake-of-our-traditional-main-streets
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I wonder though in this case the problem was neighbourhood stores, and not the expansion into high rent shopping malls.
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I wonder though in this case the problem was neighbourhood stores, and not the expansion into high rent shopping malls.
Love the lines about $2 doughnuts and coffee/coriander in that article. Actually most of those artisinal, shade grown, first pressing, non GMO doughnuts made by oppressed people cost more than $2.
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I wonder though in this case the problem was neighbourhood stores, and not the expansion into high rent shopping malls.
That was possibly a factor for Ms. Tiggy Winkles, but not for Glebe Emporium or Compact Music. Online shopping has got to be the biggest factor (and in the case of Glebe Emporium, the main factor, as Paderno got bought by Canadian Tire and taken exclusively to their platforms).

My guess is that things are going to get worse, not better, as cheapness and convenience trump everything else for most consumers. Our neighbours' son worked at Tiggy Winkles, and they still did all of their toy shopping online or at Costco for the great deals.
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Love the lines about $2 doughnuts and coffee/coriander in that article. Actually most of those artisinal, shade grown, first pressing, non GMO doughnuts made by oppressed people cost more than $2.
Shade-grown doughnuts are definitely worth the extra money.
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Man, what’s going on with retail.
Take a walk around your 'hood on your weekly garbage morning. Take note of the boxes from Amazon, Wayfair (whatever that is), etc.
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I do hope HBC can get their act together, but it doesn't seem like they will. At the moment, it's run like a real estate business. Once they've liquidated all assets, nothing will be left to keep them going.
It basically is: there is more real-estate value in most legacy old-school department stores than there is in the going concern as a retail business.
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I understand the concern but what irks me even more is the eventuality whereby it's the same bloody international chains on every single street in every city in the world.

We're already halfway there it seems.
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Take a walk around your 'hood on your weekly garbage morning. Take note of the boxes from Amazon, Wayfair (whatever that is), etc.
Yep, the shopping method that I've recently heard described as "environmentally friendly". That is having a large truck drive directly to your house to deliver a pair of shoes wrapped in eight layers of packaging, with a 1-in-3 chance that you will return them (using other packaging that is conveniently included in the original larger package) and they will immediately discard when they receive it back. Environmentally friendly.
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That was possibly a factor for Ms. Tiggy Winkles, but not for Glebe Emporium or Compact Music. Online shopping has got to be the biggest factor (and in the case of Glebe Emporium, the main factor, as Paderno got bought by Canadian Tire and taken exclusively to their platforms).

My guess is that things are going to get worse, not better, as cheapness and convenience trump everything else for most consumers. Our neighbours' son worked at Tiggy Winkles, and they still did all of their toy shopping online or at Costco for the great deals.
I may be wrong, but I don't think Tiggy Winkles carried anything unique to that store. Everything that could be bought there could be bought cheaper somewhere else. The difference was customer service, but sadly that's probably not enough anymore.
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I may be wrong, but I don't think Tiggy Winkles carried anything unique to that store. Everything that could be bought there could be bought cheaper somewhere else. The difference was customer service, but sadly that's probably not enough anymore.
I think that's true, but it did have a combination of quality toys and board games that you wouldn't find very many other places. There was also a local aspect to what they carried, like local-themed games and puzzles.

You are probably right though. My wife was in this week and apparently the place has been picked dry. Apparently as soon as people heard about closing sales, they were willing to get off the couch.
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Platforms like Facebook and Kijiji have made the resale of toys that much easier. There are parent-led online sites where toys are swapped or given away for free. Nothing wrong with that, she says, but it all begins to add up.
Sad to say, that describes me. I don't buy much anyway after a year of not buying anything new helped me rethink my relationship with stuff. And my daughter lived at home for most of that year and has embraced that approach for her own family (along with boycotting Amazon and Walmart.)

Our family seldom buys presents for each other. Even with the grandkids I'm still buying almost nothing.

They got one (new) toy between them at Christmas and he got a giant Map of Canada puzzle from Mrs. Tiggy Winkles (US made) and my granddaughter got a Canadian published book (from Amazon because that was way cheaper than from Chapters.)

For his birthday my grandson got a toy scouted out at Tiggy Winkles but bought from Kijiji, and my granddaughter got something from Value Village (bought hours before her party because, although I had been given permission to give nothing, I couldn't bear to show up empty handed at my granddaughter's first birthday.)

That's all I've bought the 2 of them in the past 14 months. Pretty slim pickings.

Almost all their books come from the library (which they visit 2 - 5 times per week) and VV. I just picked up a couple from my building's sharing shelf.

Between people like me who are making environmental choices in my shopping and those who only buy online (NOT an environmental choice) it is hard for toy stores to make it now. Even Toys R Us is having trouble.

(For outfitting them when the baby was first coming, we've used Kiddytown exclusively, not just because it is local but also because of their amazing sales knowledge. They knew which stroller to recommend for Ottawa winters to a mom who doesn't have a car. And which car seats to recommend since the seats will be installed in dozens of cars since the family doesn't own a car.)
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Yep, the shopping method that I've recently heard described as "environmentally friendly". That is having a large truck drive directly to your house to deliver a pair of shoes wrapped in eight layers of packaging, with a 1-in-3 chance that you will return them (using other packaging that is conveniently included in the original larger package) and they will immediately discard when they receive it back. Environmentally friendly.
I am so fussy about shoes and clothes and can't really shop for either other than in-store, in-person. What are all you online clothes shoppers trying to do to us!
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I was at Bayshore last night and I counted maybe 7 or 8 vacancies. Given the context that’s not too bad I think. Forever 21 has already been replaced by Urban Planet, which surprised me as I thought it would take them a long time to find a new tenant for such a large space. That said, Bayshore and Rideau Centre are probably resisting the retail crisis better than other malls.
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I was at Bayshore last night and I counted maybe 7 or 8 vacancies. Given the context that’s not too bad I think. Forever 21 has already been replaced by Urban Planet, which surprised me as I thought it would take them a long time to find a new tenant for such a large space. That said, Bayshore and Rideau Centre are probably resisting the retail crisis better than other malls.
Kudos to both malls for expanding and updating at the right time. They made themselves super regional destination centres just as online was finalizing it's stranglehold on traditional retail. St. Laurent had the same opportunity until they cancelled the expansion and cheaped out on the update.
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I was at Bayshore last night and I counted maybe 7 or 8 vacancies. Given the context that’s not too bad I think. Forever 21 has already been replaced by Urban Planet, which surprised me as I thought it would take them a long time to find a new tenant for such a large space. That said, Bayshore and Rideau Centre are probably resisting the retail crisis better than other malls.
Forever 21 at Les Promenades Gatineau is being replaced by Old Navy. Which AFAIK has never been present in the Outaouais. (They have stores in Montreal and Quebec City though.)
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