Cambie Corridor Updates

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by connect2source

Outstanding in every respect, pays homage to Vancouver's brutalist period and has many Erickson cues. We need more of this, Arno Matis does great work, their completed Aperture project on W 41st looks outstanding, we need to set the bar far higher and this kind of work contributes to that.

Do we know if that's the final product? Just last month we learned that Arno Matis got replaced on another project and the new architect severely watered it down.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by connect2source

Outstanding in every respect, pays homage to Vancouver's brutalist period and has many Erickson cues. We need more of this, Arno Matis does great work, their completed Aperture project on W 41st looks outstanding, we need to set the bar far higher and this kind of work contributes to that.

Agreed, that is a fine looking building!

[Feathered Friend]

Urban Design Panel Concerns Over Carshare Livability May Sink Cambie Corridor Rental Homes

441-475 West 42nd Avenue
While I’m late in posting this, I was actually early to this Urban Design Panel review. Unfortunately, I remembered too late that the first hour of their meeting was in-camera. When the doors finally opened, I entered to see a group of largely new faces, including a freshly elected chair and vice-chair. Soon after, I realized how different this year would be when the applicant was chided for taking too long in their presentation.

That would certainly resonate with the majority of the roughly 40 people who came out this project’s open house, as their prime concern was how they could redevelop their own homes. Naturally, this led to a jovial atmosphere, as these neighbours were more than happy to cash out and move on. It was clear that, after over a decade of discussions, all were well versed in the Cambie Corridor Plan, unlike some of the new panellists

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/01/14...y-may-sink-cambie-corridor-rental-homes/

[Lexus]

My photos today 2020-01-30
Cambie Garden north of 59th Ave and west of Cambie.

Untitled by Lexus, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus, on Flickr

[Feathered Friend]

Rezoning Model











Development Application Model

Conditioned For Failure – Vancouver’s Mistakes May Destroy Local Family’s Rental Housing Dream

512 West King Edward Avenue – DP-2019-00708 – Reema Royale
One of the sad truths Hannah and I have learned is that it’s almost impossible for anyone but a large company, or government body, to redevelop property in our city. Granted, smaller firms often have success, but local families, like the one who owns this site, sometimes lack the resources to navigate this complex and convoluted process. This Urban Design Panel review not only highlighted that problem, but identified what could be a fatal flaw for this rental building.

That’s because like all proposals, its 2016 rezoning approval was tentative on meeting a series of conditions at the development application stage. City staff sounded embarrassed to admit a lack of coordination between the planning and engineering departments had created a set of unachievable requirements that conflicted with each-other. Specifically, it was impossible to connect to the neighbouring parkade, and turn over part of this already narrow property to widen King Edward Avenue, while retaining more of the existing trees.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/01/31...troy-local-familys-rental-housing-dream/

[cyclinginvancouver]

https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/5910-5962cambiest/index.htm

The City has received an application to rezone 5910-5962 Cambie Street from RT-2 (Two-Family Dwelling) to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development). The proposal consists of a mixed-use development with a 29-storey market residential tower and a 15-storey hotel tower over a 5-storey podium, with retail.

The proposal includes:

168 strata residential units (29 storey);
270 hotel units (15 storey);
10 artist live-work studios;
retail use at grade;
a floor space ratio (FSR) of 10.86;
a floor area of 31,982 sq. m (344,256 sq. ft.);
a maximum building height of 85 m (278 ft.); and
281 underground vehicle parking spaces and 377 bicycle spaces.
The application is being considered under the Cambie Corridor Plan.

A community open house will be held from 5:00 to 7:30 pm on Monday, March 30, 2020 at the Peretz Centre, 6184 Ash Street, with City staff and the applicant team available to answer any questions.

[officedweller]

Thanks.
This is an interesting profile of the project.

Also looking at the floorplans, interesting that the 15 storey hotel has 3 elevators plus freight elevator,
while the 29 storey condo tower only has 2 elevators.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/5910-5962-cambie-street-vancouver

[Prometheus]

For convenience, here are the additional renderings and diagrams:









Source: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/5910-5962-cambie-street-vancouver

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Also looking at the floorplans, interesting that the 15 storey hotel has 3 elevators plus freight elevator,
while the 29 storey condo tower only has 2 elevators.

There are more hotel rooms than apartments, so that makes sense. This will presumably be the Wall hotel that was mentioned a while ago.

[Vin]

Minimalist building and very nicely done.

[SFUVancouver]

Great project. Can't wait to see this part of the city transformed to something that's almost unrecognizable. Growing up, Oakridge was my local mall and it felt so far away at the time.

Seeing this, it makes my heart break that so much of the Cambie Corridor is 6-8 storeys, let alone the 1-4 storeys on the 16th to King Edward stretch. As a city, we truly should have bit the bullet and had the courage to fully reimagine Cambie as another Yonge Street and march 20, 30, 40, 50+ storey towers along the length of it. Rate of change in any given area would have been slower with that kind of density than the pace we've seen with 6-8 storey towers, and it would have provided the population base necessary to support continuous retail at grade. My hope is that by having preserved the 16th to Kind Edward stretch in amber, there's at least the potential to revisit the Cambie Corridor plan some day and permit the form and character I'm describing in the more centrally located part of the corridor.

[SpongeG]

So Oakridge will have two hotels? isn't there one proposed for 41st as well?

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Seeing this, it makes my heart break that so much of the Cambie Corridor is 6-8 storeys, let alone the 1-4 storeys on the 16th to King Edward stretch. As a city, we truly should have bit the bullet and had the courage to fully reimagine Cambie as another Yonge Street and march 20, 30, 40, 50+ storey towers along the length of it.

This is not intended as a confrontational "I told you so" type of post, but I still think it is worth saying the following:

I am glad you have changed your apparent earlier viewpoint, although the change unfortunately comes too late to influence the development of the original plan, which was obviously inadequate as a responsible form of city planning from day one.

From November 14, 2014:

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

I think that the direction the corridor is taking in its development is spot-on and helpful to the long-term accommodation of residential growth in the city. The scale of many of these buildings, setting aside the outliers of Oakridge and the Marine Drive station precinct, is reminiscent of the Arbutus Lands (O'Keefe brewery development just west of Arbutus between 10th and 12th) and I think that's one of the city's most successful development projects..

As a critic of the gross inadequacies of the Cambie Corridor Plan and the shameful irresponsibility shown by city council in passing it, my response to your statement at that time was:

Originally Posted by Prometheus

I am not quite sure that the scale of these six-storey Cambie Corridor buildings, which front a major transportation corridor and sit on top of a multi-billion dollar subway line, can be described as "spot-on," even currently, let alone in the long-term. I think it likely that the ultimate scale of the Cambie Corridor Plan was limited more by fear of the anti-growth crowd than by a sober assessment of current context and real future needs.

[LeftCoaster]

In fairness a lot has changed since 2014. The affordability crisis has pushed density up in a lot of peoples view points.

I am glad to see more density landing on the Cambie corridor and only wish other stations were't so neglected. Not necessarily towers on every node, but the 3FSR at King Edward is just painful.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

So Oakridge will have two hotels? isn't there one proposed for 41st as well?

Much smaller in scale, I think. Just a few floors?

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

This is not intended as a confrontational "I told you so" type of post, but I still think it is worth saying the following:

I am glad you have changed your apparent earlier viewpoint, although the change unfortunately comes too late to influence the development of the original plan, which was obviously inadequate as a responsible form of city planning from day one.

From November 14, 2014:



As a critic of the gross inadequacies of the Cambie Corridor Plan and the shameful irresponsibility shown by city council in passing it, my response to your statement at that time was:

Yep. My perspective's changed over the last 5 years as I actually saw the scale of the projects along Cambie Corridor. Not to mention the wholesale decoupling of real estate from local incomes. I wrote what I believed then, but I don't feel the same way now.

[GlassCity]

I don't think I'd want 40 storey towers all the way down Cambie, but definitely more than they're doing now. 12 would be good I think, with 15+ at stations as wayfinders. I like highrises as landmarks, but I wouldn't want to limit our density typology to just point towers. For arterials outside the peninsula, I think block-style developments like in Paris would would provide good density along with a grand urban vibe.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Yep. My perspective's changed over the last 5 years as I actually saw the scale of the projects along Cambie Corridor. Not to mention the wholesale decoupling of real estate from local incomes. I wrote what I believed then, but I don't feel the same way now.

Well, I share your hope that the plan will be overhauled by a more responsible council before all the remaining sites are irrevocably wasted along this vital inner-city transportation corridor to the great detriment of Vancouver. Unfortunately, that's certainly not the current council, which has already stated that all of the recently enacted plans, notwithstanding how inadequate they are, will not be revisited (at least not significantly) in the upcoming city-wide plan.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Much smaller in scale, I think. Just a few floors?

ok, its an area without any now, be interesting to see how they will do

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

So Oakridge will have two hotels? isn't there one proposed for 41st as well?

There was a plan to have hotel use in the Coromandel developments, but that's since changed. Unless you mean a different site?