US Census Bureau data for Austin and other cities - Page 21

The ATX · #**401** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 4:58 AM**

That million plus population for 2020 is not from the Census Bureau, and the CB is really the only source that matters in the U.S. This is another source using the last CB estimates (2010 through 2018) to make their estimate for 2020. The U.S. CB publishes their 2019 estimates for U.S. cities in May I believe. But Austin proper will probably still be under 1 million. But we may hit one million after the 2020 decennial census.

Jdawgboy · #**402** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 6:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

That million plus population for 2020 is not from the Census Bureau, and the CB is really the only source that matters in the U.S. This is another source using the last CB estimates (2010 through 2018) to make their estimate for 2020. The U.S. CB publishes their 2019 estimates for U.S. cities in May I believe. But Austin proper will probably still be under 1 million. But we may hit one million after the 2020 decennial census.

I can't see us still under a million. It may not be the official for the most recent but if they are using Census Bureau numbers then I would bet they are close. If that's the case then the numbers for the other cities wouldn't be accurate either. Reality is the number always fluctuates and changes. Still I say we are over a million and have been saying it telling people since summer.

The ATX · #**403** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 6:27 AM**

We are probably over a million now. But it won't be official for a while. The next estimate in May for 2019 will probably be about 10K under 1 million. When the 2020 census numbers are released in March 2021 we will probably be over 1 million (officially.)

AusTex · #**404** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 12:50 PM**

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They have hundreds of square miles more and that includes SA too. I prefer a more compact city (though even Austin isn't exactly compact compared to some other cuties) but it's more compact than the other big Texas cities.

Did you notice that San Antonio with about 1.6 million has 1194 sq.k. in area, and is just 20 sq.k. smaller than Los Angeles? LA has just over 4 million in population. Part of LA is very dense, however, the hills and The Valley communities are suburban in nature.

KevinFromTexas · #**405** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 7:55 PM**

i would be wary of a source that is claiming to tally cities worldwide if they're not using official data that is compiled by official sources within each of those locales. In other words, if they're tallying numbers for the US, I would hope they're only citing the Census Bureau, and likewise for other places using whatever official bureaus they have to take their censuses. And as always, I don't care as much about city populations as they are arbitrary. Just look at Austin being just barely above Jacksonville. Jacksonville covers an area twice the area of Austin, and Austin, too, covers an area twice the size of some of those other cities above it on that list. Metro numbers are the most accurate and true measure of a city by looking at its overall regional influence.

austlar1 · #**406** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 9:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

i would be wary of a source that is claiming to tally cities worldwide if they're not using official data that is compiled by official sources within each of those locales. In other words, if they're tallying numbers for the US, I would hope they're only citing the Census Bureau, and likewise for other places using whatever official bureaus they have to take their censuses. And as always, I don't care as much about city populations as they are arbitrary. Just look at Austin being just barely above Jacksonville. Jacksonville covers an area twice the area of Austin, and Austin, too, covers an area twice the size of some of those other cities above it on that list. Metro numbers are the most accurate and true measure of a city by looking at its overall regional influence.

An often overlooked metric is the Metro area's gross GDP, which is a measure of the size of the local economy. Austin has been one of the fastest growing gross GDPs in the country. We surpassed San Antonio some time ago, and I believe Austin's economy is now around number 20 or so. This list is a bit dated going up to 2017 only. Pretty sure Austin has passed Riverside and Saint Louis by now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_by_GDP

the Genral · #**407** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 9:20 PM**

I agree and for businesses and sports teams like the Austin FC, the metro numbers have to be more important but the need in me loves to see the numbers within the city limits if for nothing else but the spell binding feat that 1 million people call Austin home up from 328k when I moved here. It's purely cosmetic.

austlar1 · #**408** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 9:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by the Genral

I agree and for businesses and sports teams like the Austin FC, the metro numbers have to be more important but the need in me loves to see the numbers within the city limits if for nothing else but the spell binding feat that 1 million people call Austin home up from 328k when I moved here. It's purely cosmetic.

I agree. I like the idea that Austin now has a million person population. It is a figure that captures a lot of attention and respect. I first got to know Austin when I enrolled (dropped out after one semester) at UT Law in 1969. The city had a population of 253,000 and the entire metro (if you could call it that) must have been just a hair over 300,000. I think maybe 15,000 lived up in Georgetown back then. Austin was so pleasant and relaxed. I already had a love affair going with cities. I knew Austin was not really a contender back then, but I sensed that it had some great bones. It was obvious that it would probably start growing. I wanted to stay here, but I left because there just weren't many job opportunities available at the time (unless you count state employment) for a liberal arts graduate with no specialized skills. A few years later my family opened some stores here (Edison's, if anybody remembers), so I kept tabs on the place as it started to boom. When I finally moved here permanently in 1996, it was about half the size it is today.

urbancore · #**409** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 9:35 PM**

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_by_GDP

just got lost in those numbers for a minute. Its amazing how far we've come...but even more amazing we have to GO! Holy smoke.....NYC, LA, and Shy Town do most all the heavy lifting.

wwmiv · #**410** Posted **Jan 31, 2020, 12:31 AM**

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just got lost in those numbers for a minute. Its amazing how far we've come...but even more amazing we have to GO! Holy smoke.....NYC, LA, and Shy Town do most all the heavy lifting.

NYC, LA, and SF+SJ are the largest three areas. Chicago isn’t that far ahead of either DFW.

austlar1 · #**411** Posted **Jan 31, 2020, 2:46 AM**

Probably should post this in the new Economic Development section, but this graph produced by the Austin Chamber of Commerce does a neat job of comparing the metro GDPs for Texas metro areas. It even divided the DFW GDP into the Dallas section and the Fort Worth section. Note the similarity between Fort Worth and San Antonio in terms of GDP. Link also contains a wealth of other comparative information regarding Austin's economic performance.

https://www.austinchamber.com/blog/01-07-2020-gross-domestic-product

JoninATX · #**412** Posted **Mar 9, 2020, 7:50 AM**

2019 estimates will be released this month.

https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/about/schedule.html

JoninATX · #**413** Posted **Mar 18, 2020, 8:38 PM**

My prediction is that Austin surpassed Cincinnati last year and is now trailing Las Vegas.

the Genral · #**414** Posted **Mar 18, 2020, 9:35 PM**

I think they should postpone the count for about a year. Too soon? Too soon?

JoninATX · #**415** Posted **Mar 21, 2020, 10:23 PM**

2019 estimates will be released on March 26th

https://census.gov/newsroom/tip-sheets/2020/tp20-06.html

Austinite101 · #**416** Posted **Mar 26, 2020, 5:35 AM**

Some of the new 2019 estimates are in: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2020/pop-estimates-county-metro.html

Travis Co.:

- 1,273,954 in 2019; It's the 10th fastest growing county in the United States by absolute numerical growth 2010-2019.
- +27,382 (+2.2%) residents between 2018 and 2019.
- +249,510 (+24.36%) residents 2010-2019 total.

Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown, TX Metropolitan Area:

- 2,227,083 in 2019; It's the 8th fastest growing metropolitan area in the United States by absolute numeric growth 2010-2019.
- +61,686 (+2.84%) residents between 2018 and 2019.
- +510,760 (+29.76%) residents between 2010 and 2019.

**Based on that information, I'd bet City of Austin was right around 990,000-1,000,000 mid-2019. Today however, I'd bet we're already slightly above the 1,000,000 population mark. The uncertainty of course comes from how much growth occurred in Travis County WITHIN the City of Austin vs. Travis County OUTSIDE the City of Austin + the growth inside the Austin city limits that occurs outside Travis County (inside Williamson/Hays Counties).**

On a side note, congrats to our San Antonio friends - Bexar Co. breaks the 2,000,000+ barrier.

JoninATX · #**417** Posted **Mar 26, 2020, 7:59 AM**

Its mindboggling that Williamson County now has nearly half the population of Travis County.

KevinFromTexas · #**418** Posted **Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM**

Also, don't forget to take your 2020 census, if you haven't already. I just did ours since we got it in the mail recently. You can do it all online at the link below. It took me less than 5 minutes.

https://my2020census.gov/

KevinFromTexas · #**419** Posted **Mar 26, 2020, 6:52 PM**

Population estimates of the top 100 MSAs as of July 1, 2019:

4. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX, 7,573,136

5. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX, 7,066,141

24. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX, 2,550,960

29. Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown, TX, 2,227,083

65. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX, 868,707

69. El Paso, TX, 844,124

Population estimates of the 101st-200th largest MSAs as of July 1, 2019:

120. Killeen-Temple, TX, 460,303

127. Corpus Christi, TX, 429,024

128. Brownsville-Harlingen, TX, 423,163

140. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX, 392,563

159. Lubbock, TX, 322,257

172. Longview, TX, 286,657

176. Laredo, TX, 276,652

177. Waco, TX, 273,920

185. Amarillo, TX, 265,053

186. College Station-Bryan, TX, 264,728

198. Tyler, TX, 232,751

Population estimates of the 201st-300th largest MSAs as of July 1, 2019

232. Midland, TX, 182,603

247. Abilene, TX, 172,060

259. Odessa, TX, 166,223

277. Wichita Falls, TX, 151,254

284. Texarkana, TX-AR, 148,761

Population estimates of the 301st-384th largest MSAs as of July 1, 2019

302. Sherman-Denison, TX, 136,212

327. San Angelo, TX, 122,027

357. Victoria, TX, 99,742

List of other metros here:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=242206

The ATX · #**420** Posted **Mar 26, 2020, 7:51 PM**

Austin did officially pass up Cincinnati. Here are the number 20 through 30 largest metros. It's a Business Journal link, so use CNTL-U in Chrome to see entire list.

20. St. Louis, MO-IL, 2,803,228

21. Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD, 2,800,053

22. Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC, 2,636,883

23. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL, 2,608,147

24. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX, 2,550,960

25. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA, 2,492,412

26. Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom, CA, 2,363,730

27. Pittsburgh, PA, 2,317,600

28. Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV, 2,266,715

29. Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown, TX, 2,227,083

30. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN, 2,221,208

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2020/03/26/metropop.html