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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:09 AM
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Transit commissioners who don't take transit defending the incompetent transit boss.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 5:14 AM
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Transit commissioners who don't take transit defending the incompetent transit boss.
Why should Ottawa act any differently than any other city with transit?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 12:49 PM
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LRT contractor needs maintenance advice after receiving tough lesson on winter upkeep
Snow is at times jamming the track switches and the switch heaters don't seem to be having the expected melting effect.

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 24, 2020


Winter is so far taking a toll on the new Confederation Line as the city’s LRT contractor calls in help to provide advice on how to better maintain Ottawa’s $2.1-billion rail system.

Peter Lauch, the chief executive of Rideau Transit Maintenance, which is the maintenance arm of builder Rideau Transit Group (RTG), told the transit commission Thursday the company doesn’t have trouble with winter operations.

However, some transit commissioners and councillors didn’t believe it after learning more about the problems plaguing the LRT system.

Snow is at times jamming the track switches and the switch heaters don’t seem to be having the expected melting effect. RTG and OC Transpo quickly learned during the heavy snowfall last weekend that snow and ice could play havoc with LRT switch infrastructure, leading to train delays. Switches enable trains to move between tracks.

It’s been a week from hell for Ottawa’s transit customers who rely on LRT.

The eastern stretch shut down for an afternoon commute when an overhead wire was pulled down by a train.

Maintenance delays have removed some Alstom Citadis Spirit trains from peak-period service this week. At one point, there were eight trains delivering service during one of the busiest service times. There should be 13 trains on the 12.5-kilometre line at the peak hours.

Transit commission chair Allan Hubley was compelled to call a special meeting for city management and RTG to explain why LRT service has been so bad.

The city is critical of RTG’s maintenance capabilities and has been holding back monthly payments to the company.

John Manconi, the city’s transportation general manager, said RTG needs “more experienced railroaders” in Ottawa maintaining the Confederation Line.

RTG is paying to bring in JBA Corp., whose experts have already been advising the city on LRT, to review the maintenance program and make changes to improve it.

The severe train shortages have forced Transpo to redirect supplemental bus service during the morning and afternoon peak periods. The special bus service will run until at least Jan. 31.

The city confirmed one important fact: all 34 LRT vehicles were Day 1 ready when the city accepted the rail system last summer and all 34 have been put into revenue service at various times. (The vehicles are coupled to make full trains).

City and RTG officials explained why so many trains weren’t leaving the maintenance facility lately.

One train was out of commission because of the overhead wire pull-down near St. Laurent Station last week. Another train had a problem with a compressor that helps level the vehicle.

Then, numerous trains had to be pulled because of flat spots on the steel wheels, which isn’t unusual in train operations but the maintenance contractor has had trouble keeping up with the time-consuming fixes using a wheel lathe.

Michael Morgan, the city’s rail construction director, said there needs to be a root-cause investigation to see why so many wheel flats have been happening lately.

LRT has been unreliable for much of the four months the transit system has been operating.

Service delays haven’t hurt Transpo’s ridership numbers so far, though.

According to Manconi, the December 2019 ridership was up 3.2 per cent compared with December 2018 and the year-over-year increase is 0.2 per cent.

Transit commissioners and councillors asked detailed questions about how the LRT system works, trying to uncover problems that might be obvious to a layperson.

There were several questions comparing the Confederation Line with the trusty Trillium Line.

Coun. Catherine McKenney asked several questions comparing the LRT line with the Trillium Line, noting that the older north-south railway doesn’t seem to have the same problems with train wheels.

Transpo operations director Troy Charter said he couldn’t remember a time a train was removed from service because of wheel flats.

Coun. Stephen Blais asked about the track switches on the Trillium Line and why the railway doesn’t have the same problems. Charter said the maintainers make sure the right resources are available to clear the switches in the winter.

The commission meeting, which started at 2 p.m., stretched into the early evening hours with members continually appearing astounded about the maintenance problems.

“I’m not entirely sure this is normal,” citizen commissioner Sarah Wright-Gilbert said at one point.

“I don’t think we could have anticipated some of these issues,” Lauch said later. “I think we could have reacted to them better.”

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 1:20 PM
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Why should Ottawa act any differently than any other city with transit?
You'll actually see John Tory on the subway in Toronto. Not with a camera crew. Just wearing his headphones. Going to work. Enough people saw that, it ended up a meme that even he poked fun at. How many people have seen Watson on the subway without a reporter behind him?
     
     
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You'll actually see John Tory on the subway in Toronto. Not with a camera crew. Just wearing his headphones. Going to work. Enough people saw that, it ended up a meme that even he poked fun at. How many people have seen Watson on the subway without a reporter behind him?
Several times actually.. he once looked a little lost while walking through a crowd on the Tunney's Platform trying to board in the AM peak.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:07 PM
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And on the Parliament station stench.
Maybe in eight or ten weeks, we'll learn the contents of the email.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:37 PM
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Maybe in eight or ten weeks, we'll learn the contents of the email.
Now that is a stinger, but seemingly much truth to it
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 5:27 PM
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I'm really kind of scandalized that the commissioners let it go.

They should have let Scrimgeour read and digest the info, then share it with the class.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 6:20 PM
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They should have let Scrimgeour read and digest the info, then share it with the class.
That was Peter Lauch (RTM/RTG CEO).
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 8:16 PM
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My bad - sounded like his voice. Too bad there's no way for committees to have a video feed to the public instead of just audio.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 10:01 PM
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Do we really need the "Door opening, Door closing" announcements on the LRT?
Even blind people can hear the door chime.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 9:56 AM
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 3:11 PM
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At this rate we need about 12 spare trains on standby.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 3:17 PM
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At this rate we need about 12 spare trains on standby.
Luckily we pretty much will have 12 spare trains for the better part of the next 5 years. Maybe by then RTM will be running things a little smoother...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 9:16 PM
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Do we really need the "Door opening, Door closing" announcements on the LRT?
Even blind people can hear the door chime.
The "doors closing" announcement or some variant of it is pretty common in most cities (in fact I can't think of a city except for MTL that doesn't use it). That being said, I think the "doors opening" announcement is pretty unnecessary.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 10:10 PM
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How can trains on adjacent tracks collide with each other? A stationary train stopped to close to a switch?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 10:16 PM
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It gets worse...
Pantograph catching fire or sparking big time with smoke today... some say its normal but smoke?

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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 11:14 PM
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Multiple trains lose power as soon as freezing rain arrives this afternoon. Break downs at Tunney's Pasture and UOttawa, the latter causing a closure of part of the line. The other train had to be towed back to Belfast yard.

Clearly, there is an awful lot wrong with the Confederation Line. Reports of this nature were deemed alarmist during last year's winter testing. Officials at the city should have been taking this more seriously.

Is this becoming the transit version of Phoenix?

What will happen if we have a typical bad Ottawa winter storm? We have been lucky so far this winter.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/news/delays-on-lrt-after-stalled-train-at-uottawa-station-1.4783406
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 11:38 PM
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Twin breakdowns, 'power issues' cause major LRT delays Saturday afternoon

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Updated: January 25, 2020




Ottawa’s troubled LRT system experienced another breakdown Saturday, with two trains stopping almost simultaneously just after 2 p.m. at Tunney’s Pasture and uOttawa stations.

Around 4 p.m., OC Transpo reported it was implementing R1 auxiliary bus service between Parliament and St. Laurent stations “due to power issues.”

A statement attributed to transit operations director Troy Charters indicated the trains had experienced “a momentary power loss.”

“A stopped train at Tunney’s Pasture Station has now moved off the line and returned to Belfast Yard,” the statement read.

“A stopped train at uOttawa Station is still stationary and being attended to by a technician.”

The statement did not say whether inclement weather conditions in Ottawa on Saturday had an effect.

That information was repeated in an email to the media from John Manconi, the city’s manager of transportation.

“We have had some vehicle issues on the line relating to power. Vehicles are being cleared as fast as possible. LRT Service is running from Tunneys to U Ottawa and from Tremblay to Blair. R1 is running from Rideau to St. Laurent. We are communicating to customers advising of delays,” Manconi’s email said.

At uOttawa Station, several passengers reported hearing one or several loud bangs or pops from the roof of a westbound train.

One Twitter user posted a video of bright sparks and wispy smoke coming from a train’s rooftop rigging, which is used for the transfer of electrical power.

OC Transpo did not identify the problem.

The system remained in operation, but riders experienced major delays over a two-hour period as OC Transpo rerouted rail traffic around the stricken vehicle and the Tunney’s Pasture train was moved to the repair yards.

Shortly before 5 p.m. Transpo reported R1 bus service was operating between Rideau and St-Laurent stations. Trains were running between Tunney’s Pasture and uOttawa and between Tremblay and Blair.

Earlier in the day, Transpo reported it had 11 trains available for use, and one as a spare.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/stopped-train-at-uottawa-station-causing-lrt-issues
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2020, 11:49 PM
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How can trains on adjacent tracks collide with each other? A stationary train stopped to close to a switch?
Yes, according to Corvulpes on Reddit.

But naturally the ambiguity certainly hasn't stopped dozens of people questioning how a rail yard could be built with rails that are "too close together". For all the genuine concerns and points that are raised about the LRT, there is so much FUD that keeps arising.
     
     
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