Atlanta Project Thread IV

[atlantaguy]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

So in true Atlanta fashion, expect this project to be green lighted and the finger given to pedestrians. I’ll be surprised if it happens otherwise. Atlanta cars way more about perceived progress rather than the greater good.

That's a pretty damn bold statement to make.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by atlantaguy

That's a pretty damn bold statement to make.

It is.

From parking structures, closing homeless shelters and placing them outside the city, lack of initiative on affordable housing, no traffic enforcement, lackluster pedestrian experiences across the city, Atlanta has room for improvement. MBS funding. Nor Th side bridge. Piedmont park expansion from the transportation fund. Grant park parking deck. To add, we finally just stopped giving sleepers tens of millions to build profitable structures in the hottest neighborhoods in the city with the highest premiums. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of great stuff going on too, but I’m not going to claim it is perfect or anywhere close to it. The way Atlanta is managed needs a complete overhaul.

Atlanta (and Georgia) invests more in poaching companies from other cities than it does it’s own constituents.

[Street Advocate]

I’ll save the rest of my rant, except for the note that our mayor doesn’t even live ITP. No more OTP mayors.

Atlanta’s looking good from the sky this evening

[ATLMidcity]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

I’ll save the rest of my rant, except for the note that our mayor doesn’t even live ITP. No more OTP mayors.

Atlanta’s looking good from the sky this evening

What the hell does that have to do with the price of bacon in Arkansas?

Would you rather your mayor live in Buckhead and be a known undercover Republican who advocated for an ordinance requiring new development NOT block the views of their neighbors...

[ATLMidcity]

[QUOTE=smArTaLlone;8797031]


1138 Peachtree St.
This is an expansion of a previous case reviewed by the DRC in 2013, 2014 and 2016. A new 46-story mixed-use tower with 317 apartments and 10,000 s.f. ground of floor retail along Peachtree St. and Crescent Ave. The residential lobby is recessed and accessible via a covered walkway from Peachtree St. The parking deck includes 8 levels totaling 450 spaces accessible from split ingress and egress along Peachtree St. and full access (for vehicles and loading) from Crescent Ave. All driveway access points lead to a central drop off area within the parking deck.

Maybe some of you need a lesson in reading and comprehension. The sentence clearly states ingress/egrees along Peachtree, which IMHO means pedestrian "foot" traffic. And, for vehicle loading (and unloading) from Crescent Ave.

I guess in this Trumpian world of today, reading "the Transcript" means one thing to the educated and knowledgeable, and quite something else to the C & D strudents.

[Atlriser]

Um I think you need a reading comprehension class. It does not reference foot traffic. The sentence references the parking deck. Split ingress and egress would be for CARS! People don’t require split ingress and egress for walking. You can interpret how you like but if they are referencing a parking deck the logic would be for cars not pedestrians. What you highlight adds to the argument it is for cars. There is a clear connection in the sentence that the Crescent side is also for loading (large vehicles) not just passenger vehicles as on the Peachtree side. If they meant otherwise, the writer should learn English grammar and how to distinguish 2 distinct ideas in the same sentence. Your Trumpian comment is obnoxious and also interpreted wrong grammatically. Thanks for playing though!

[ATLMidcity]

1) Since when has the DRC allowed a new building on PEACHTREE street to have curb cuts for a parking deck?
There was no mention of a discussion on curb cuts at the DRC meeting, but there was mention of a pedestrian walkway (linkage) from Peachtree to Crescent, which was a point of contention.
Maybe that's where your confusion originated?

2) If something is in (parentheses) it means that info is germane to what precedes that info in parentheses. Just remember the slogan "Reading is Fundamental" you may just be inspired.

3) Pedestrians do walk in and out of parking decks. Hell, I do it ever time I go to LA Fitness on Spring st. Once I enter the parking deck via an automobile, I egress on my way to the gym, and I ingress on my way back.
Then I drive out of the parking deck via my automobile - usually through the same vehicular enter and exit points. Capiche

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by ATLMidcity

1) Since when has the DRC allowed a new building on PEACHTREE street to have curb cuts for a parking deck?
There was no mention of a discussion on curb cuts at the DRC meeting, but there was mention of a pedestrian walkway (linkage) from Peachtree to Crescent, which was a point of contention.
Maybe that's where your confusion originated?

2) If something is in (parentheses) it means that info is germane to what precedes that info in parentheses. Just remember the slogan "Reading is Fundamental" you may just be inspired.

3) Pedestrians do walk in and out of parking decks. Hell, I do it ever time I go to LA Fitness on Spring st. Once I enter the parking deck via an automobile, I egress on my way to the gym, and I ingress on my way back.
Then I drive out of the parking deck via my automobile - usually through the same vehicular enter and exit points. Capiche

While I do understand the arguments you are making here, I remember the site plan from attending the DRC meeting for this design years ago before this revised submission. At least then they did have split vehicle ingress and egress for the parking deck on Peachtree, with additional vehicle access on Crescent. Maybe it's been revised since then, but the wording from the DRC review makes me think it is a similar setup to before.

[alco89]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

While I do understand the arguments you are making here, I remember the site plan from attending the DRC meeting for this design years ago before this revised submission. At least then they did have split vehicle ingress and egress for the parking deck on Peachtree, with additional vehicle access on Crescent. Maybe it's been revised since then, but the wording from the DRC review makes me think it is a similar setup to before.

Yup, especially when it then says "All driveway access points lead to a central drop off area within the parking deck." You wouldn't say that if there was just one 'driveway' coming from Crescent. Unfortunately...

[foxmccleod]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

While I do understand the arguments you are making here, I remember the site plan from attending the DRC meeting for this design years ago before this revised submission. At least then they did have split vehicle ingress and egress for the parking deck on Peachtree, with additional vehicle access on Crescent. Maybe it's been revised since then, but the wording from the DRC review makes me think it is a similar setup to before.

Here is an old elevation clearly showing split vehicular ingress/egress on Peachtree.

[Frankster87]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

I’ll save the rest of my rant, except for the note that our mayor doesn’t even live ITP. No more OTP mayors.

Atlanta’s looking good from the sky this evening

That actually explains a lot. I wasn't aware she doesn't even live in the city.

[Libertarian]

I know nothing, but it's possible Mayor Bottoms is OTP but still within ATL city limits.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by 1lifealex

I'm very aware of that thanks

Sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise.

[ATLonthebrain]

To be Mayor of a city requires that you are a resident of said city. The Atlanta City Limit does extend outside of 285 on the west side where Mayor Bottoms lives.

[Atlriser]

Originally Posted by ATLonthebrain

To be Mayor of a city requires that you are a resident of said city. The Atlanta City Limit does extend outside of 285 on the west side where Mayor Bottoms lives.

Actually it doesn’t require you be a resident just like congressional districts don’t require you live in the district. It depends on how the city charter is written. Also, the city does extend outside of 285 on the west side in some neighborhoods. I can’t comment on where the major lives, but she was elected so we just have to deal with it until the next one. Maybe someone decent will run that can unseat her.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Atlriser

Actually it doesn’t require you be a resident just like congressional districts don’t require you live in the district. It depends on how the city charter is written. Also, the city does extend outside of 285 on the west side in some neighborhoods. I can’t comment on where the major lives, but she was elected so we just have to deal with it until the next one. Maybe someone decent will run that can unseat her.

Current mayor lives on the last street before being outside city limits. I want a mayor who represents those of us who live in town, not one who lives a life closer to what would be seen outside Smyrna.

[Atlriser]

It’s not a function of where you live it’s a function of your priorities and policies. It shouldn’t matter if she lives at city hall, Inman Park, or HJIA in baggage claim as long as she is focused on the issues and solutions.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Atlriser

It’s not a function of where you live it’s a function of your priorities and policies. It shouldn’t matter if she lives at city hall, Inman Park, or HJIA in baggage claim as long as she is focused on the issues and solutions.

And she does not make enough progress on the issues I care the most about to continue to receive my support, which she received in the run-off of the last election. From transportation, homelessness, and affordable housing, her policies are more representative of someone who lives in the suburbs rather than someone in the city.

This is the street she lives on
https://goo.gl/maps/CK7nwBeSC9B2oDFn6

[Atlriser]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

And she does not make enough progress on the issues I care the most about to continue to receive my support, which she received in the run-off of the last election. From transportation, homelessness, and affordable housing, her policies are more representative of someone who lives in the suburbs rather than someone in the city.

This is the street she lives on
https://goo.gl/maps/CK7nwBeSC9B2oDFn6

Honestly neither candidate cared about the issues you listed especially her. Back to construction news though....

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Atlriser

Back to construction news though....

Right on.

I didn’t grab a photo, but the Auburn Ave infill project (i think at Piedmont) is coming along nicely in downtown. Looks to be a great addition. Think there’s a newer rendering than the following: