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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 5:43 AM
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I've never noticed any sort of smell whatsoever when entering Montreal's Metro. I've definitely noticed a humid muskiness to the air at times but never a smell like what's at Parliament Station.
Maybe be you had a cold or something cause it smells exactly the same
Bonaventure, Berri UQAM, Mcgill, Peel or Saint-Laurent just to name these few
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 12:49 PM
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C'est la vie. Established metro systems also have service interruptions all the time.
IDK man. I just feel like what was promised and what's been delivered are not the same. And I know I'm not the only one that thought it was suspicious that the city was all "Haha bro it's cool we always said 12 days of continuous testing but the contract AKSHUALLY said only 9 days and we get repeat days yeah this was never mentioned before."

To me at least it seems that handover was rushed for political posturing. Especially seeing as how there's an election coming up, and making commutes better for swing riders trumps having a reliable metro.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 1:16 PM
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IDK man. I just feel like what was promised and what's been delivered are not the same. And I know I'm not the only one that thought it was suspicious that the city was all "Haha bro it's cool we always said 12 days of continuous testing but the contract AKSHUALLY said only 9 days and we get repeat days yeah this was never mentioned before."

To me at least it seems that handover was rushed for political posturing. Especially seeing as how there's an election coming up, and making commutes better for swing riders trumps having a reliable metro.
Define 'reliable'. Have you not seen the evidence posted here by others that no system is reliable 100% of the time?

Sometimes, I wonder what's the point in posting anything on here... le sigh
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 1:29 PM
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It’s kind of funny that the people who were whining about the project being more than a year late are now complaining about the system not being ready

The Montreal Metro always smells rubbery to me from its tires. The smell at Parliament station smells like sewer off gassing, strongest near the doors by Winners. There’s a tunnel ventilation shaft there that opens to the corridor, I wonder if it’s causing some sort of backdraft.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 1:40 PM
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The one thing that bugs me is the headboard showing platform direction. They are above you. But the ones across the tracks are displayed for you. This is disorienting. And more than a few people on the platform commented about that. This is different from Sheppard Line in Toronto where headboards are above the edge of the platform.

There's also no indication on the track divider of the next station or direction.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 1:42 PM
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My hope is that as the kinks get worked out, the system will become more reliable.

I do understand that it seems disappointing to have issues with a new system. People relate it to buying a new car. If it were to break down on the side of the road a couple times within the first week, they would think they bough a lemon. What they don't understand is that the city bought 17 new cars and a new high tech highway and if any one of them breaks down, the whole system is affected. Also, most people typically only drive there car for a couple hours a day, where as the train is running about 18 hours a day (9 times as much). On top of that, there are electronic doors that are opening and closing every couple minutes, which works out to hundreds of times a day (if your car has an electronic door, I dare you to open and close it a few thousand times and see if it is still works well).
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 1:42 PM
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Parliament station smelled normal this evening. I have no idea if it's been cleared out or if I just didn't notice.

I think I would have noticed if it were still there though.
Wouldn't say it's all gone away. But far better than before.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 1:48 PM
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I've never noticed any sort of smell whatsoever when entering Montreal's Metro. I've definitely noticed a humid muskiness to the air at times but never a smell like what's at Parliament Station.
Berri UQAM smelled like pizza every time I made a transfer.
     
     
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The Montreal Metro always smells rubbery to me from its tires. .
Me too. And I find that this smell often wafts up to street level in areas served by the métro, especially in the downtown core of course.
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 3:13 PM
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I really think they should call an early end to parallel service unless there's some union agreement that binds them to it or some such.

We need to reallocate bus resources, and ruthlessly, and soon.
Bus driver have not yet finished booking work for after the service change. Until booking is finished up, you can't switch as drivers wouldn't know where to work.

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One more item to add. There is still old infrastructure that has not been removed (e.g. disused bus ramp to the old transit way). Will these just be left to weed away or will they be removed?
Are you referring to Tunney's Pasture? That will be cleaned up when Phase 2 gets underway. Lees remains as well, as it was used for construction access to the station.
     
     
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The update you’ve all been waiting for from Transit Commission: that smell of death at Parliament LRT station is from moisture in an escalator pit. Crews are applying sanitizing solution.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 3:44 PM
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They could do a "provisional" service change: just cut all Connexion buses to start and end at the LRT, effective tomorrow. All other changes go ahead October 6 as planned.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 3:50 PM
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Sure, there's more stairs to take to get to the platform with the 12 at Blair but it kinda makes sense why it's on that platform for now. It's also outside the fare paid zone. A minor inconvenience.
Yeah, no: it's not minor.

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The 12 goes west towards City Park drive.
It does, now. It didn't always. The former launch pattern for the 12, when it left Blair westbound by first doing a quick jog east out of the station towards Ogilvie, provided better service. (And more comfortable; for flip's sake can we stop putting speedbumps on asphalt surfaces used by transit buses?)

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I suspect the layout is temporary as a good chunk of the Connexion routes won't go to Blair after Phase 2 is open. There should be room to move ALL remaining routes onto the fare paid zone platform then.
So after five years of the "optimized" 12 (2008-2013) then five years of Blair LRT disruption (2014-2019), after another five years of Phase II construction, and maybe some begging and pleading, route 12 might finally be restored to the same levels of convenience of transfer at Blair in the mid-2020s?

Only to now be 8 minutes slower on its route thanks to the stupidity of the Montreal Road project?
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 3:53 PM
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Brand new be systems tend to have higher rates of faults. Teething issues, as they call them.

Name one system in recent history that hasn't gone through this during the introduction of new rolling stock.
yeah, these are all shakedown issues. But let's watch them get chianelloed.
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 3:59 PM
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Yeah, no: it's not minor.
You think having to tap your pass again is a major issue?
Some systems have you tap when you leave too.

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It does, now. It didn't always. The former launch pattern for the 12, when it left Blair westbound by first doing a quick jog east out of the station towards Ogilvie, provided better service. (And more comfortable; for flip's sake can we stop putting speedbumps on asphalt surfaces used by transit buses?)



So after five years of the "optimized" 12 (2008-2013) then five years of Blair LRT disruption (2014-2019), after another five years of Phase II construction, and maybe some begging and pleading, route 12 might finally be restored to the same levels of convenience of transfer at Blair in the mid-2020s?

Only to now be 8 minutes slower on its route thanks to the stupidity of the Montreal Road project?
Oh, I agree with you that routing the 12 (and also the 24 Beacon Hill) via City Park is ridiculous. I'm not defending the city here, I'm just stating that I understand why they put the buses at that platform.

As for the Montreal rd corridor... The city just doesn't give a fuck. Rideau & Montreal rd need 24/7 bus lanes all the way up to Aviation pkwy (at a minimum). Building an LRT station at Jasmine would also take some load off the 12.

But what do I know? It's only been one of my main routes for 15 years.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 4:00 PM
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They could do a "provisional" service change: just cut all Connexion buses to start and end at the LRT, effective tomorrow. All other changes go ahead October 6 as planned.
I was thinking the same thing. The time saved could potentially be used to add extras to fill in for other routes running behind schedule. Even if they didn't do that they could have the driver do a shorter shift (ya, I know the union would require he/she be paid for the normal length shift, but that is better than late buses).
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 4:10 PM
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I've mentioned here that I find it annoying that the rapid buses are on opposite platforms but in terms of distance priority they got it bang on. Local and orange buses in the area get the prime spots near the station, the Transitway buses are next, and them the suburban express buses are the furthest away.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 4:56 PM
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For the third time this week, platform 2 at Tunney’s Pasture has closed down. Happens around the same time as well.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 5:07 PM
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You can't do a half measure switch over. Some of the Connexion routes are presently the main service providers to downtown Hull during peak hours
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 5:09 PM
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For the third time this week, platform 2 at Tunney’s Pasture has closed down. Happens around the same time as well.
Do you know why this is happening?
     
     
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