Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015)

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by s211

How can you ? I'm more .

all we can do is and do our best to change or influence what we can...

[s211]

Originally Posted by kcantor

all we can do is and do our best to change or influence what we can...

said the better man.

[big W]

Originally Posted by CMD UW

I have no issues with the low floor system they have decided to go with. In fact I think it's the best way to integrate transit with our built form. This is why I am confused that Council rejected this proposal when it is exactly the type of building that they 'want' to see around this type of LRT system. It's absolutely perplexing really. A — two-storey 8800sf commercial building??!?!?

Its not the low floor system, its making it stop at lights and running at grade at the now former Bonnie Doon traffic circle. We have rush hour traffic issues there now. Running a train at grade there every few mins is going to make things worse and giving more ammo to not wanting to build the system. This wont help. It should have been below grade there similar to what is done at Belgravia Road or 61 Avenue to the median at 111 Street. A small tunnel will cost more but we will not have any of the traffic issues.

Again slowing down the trains means people don't take the train but drive. I have a few neighbours who are not taking the trains to NAIT even though they have the u-passes and its "free". The train takes a long time from Grandin to NAIT and its quicker to drive even at rush hour for many of them. If this is the case why even have the train. Again its because we cheapened our system and didn't do it right.

I see another Kingsway/106 Avenue problem again but a little more cash and foresight we would much less traffic issues and less anti spending on LRT.

Then again they also cut out parkades, which would encourage people to take the trains rather than drive, but since the parkades went many people did not take the buses to the station but rather drive downtown.

Finally if we are not going to take advantage of and density and service for people around the stations where are we going to have them and why are we doing it. I would like to grab a cup of coffee for example if I was in the area while waiting for a train. Things like this encourages people to take the train and get out of their cars. Take away things which may be small and you may not capture them.

[Coldrsx]

Very MacLaren/Hendrix, but I dig it.

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Proposed rezoning for residential tower in Oliver at 123 St & Jasper Ave

https://www.edmonton.ca/residential_neighbourhoods/LDA19-0164_UrbanDesignBrief.pdf

September 12, 2019

Edmontonians are invited to a drop-in engagement session to learn more about a proposed rezoning at the northwest corner of 123 Street and Jasper Avenue for a residential tower.

Date: Wednesday, September 18
Time: 6 – 8 p.m.
Location: Robertson-Wesley United Church Memorial Room, 10209 123 Street NW

The proposed rezoning would allow for the development of a 32-storey residential tower with street-level commercial uses facing Jasper Avenue and townhouses facing 123 Street. An amendment to the Oliver Area Redevelopment Plan would be required to facilitate the proposed rezoning.

The engagement session will be an opportunity to learn more about the proposal and share your views with the City and the applicant. Feedback will be summarized in a report to City Council for a decision at a future Public Hearing.


For more information:
edmonton.ca/oliver > Planning Applications

Media contact:
Karen Burgess
Communications Advisor
Communications & Engagement
780-496-4908

[Black Star]

I like it. Very stylish. This end of jasper Ave is on fire.

[Coldrsx]

Two more projects in the works nearby as well...

[TimB09]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Two more projects in the works nearby as well...

New projects? Or do you mean Clifton Place?

[Coldrsx]

Winspear WHOA

https://www.dezeen.com/2019/09/09/winspe...-orchestra-andrew-bromberg-aedas-canada/

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by TimB09

New projects? Or do you mean Clifton Place?

In addition to...

[s13]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Winspear WHOA

https://www.dezeen.com/2019/09/09/winspe...-orchestra-andrew-bromberg-aedas-canada/

That looks fantastic, excited to see how it turns out in person once complete. Hopefully makes up for our star destroyer library a block away...

[s211]

Originally Posted by s13

That looks fantastic, excited to see how it turns out in person once complete. Hopefully makes up for our star destroyer library a block away...

I'd rather be on the business end of a star destroyer than take delivery of that library.

[Landlocked]

Originally Posted by s211

I'd rather be on the business end of a star destroyer than take delivery of that library.

If caught between the two would you be able to tell which was which?

[DKaz]

World class comes to mind. The design is stunning.

Originally Posted by s13

That looks fantastic, excited to see how it turns out in person once complete. Hopefully makes up for our star destroyer library a block away...

Too bad they couldn't make it kitty corner.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Landlocked

If caught between the two would you be able to tell which was which?

Well, one of them — a heck of a lot more. Hint: it's affixed.

[Black Star]

Originally Posted by s211

I'd rather be on the business end of a star destroyer than take delivery of that library.

Business end of a star destroyer.....lol

Hope you don’t mind if I use this one.

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Winspear WHOA

https://www.dezeen.com/2019/09/09/winspe...-orchestra-andrew-bromberg-aedas-canada/

please tell me the architect retained the intellectual property rights and that their contract obligates this to be completed as presented so it can't be value engineered and needs to be completed as presented...

i still want to see the tree wells that will allow those elevated trees to be real and not artificial and i fail to see how that roof overhang will shade that garden as noted in the commentary when the garden is on its south side but that's picking nits on something that is quite lovely and quite exciting as presented.

this will be one of the nicest architectural additions to the city - not just downtown - that we'll have seen in a long time. kudos to everyone that got it this far and good luck in delivering it.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Black Star

Business end of a star destroyer.....lol

Hope you don’t mind if I use this one.

Don't mind, one bit.

Disney, on the other hand, if what is said about their lawyers is true, might mind that we're even discussing their product.

[rakesh]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Winspear WHOA

https://www.dezeen.com/2019/09/09/winspe...-orchestra-andrew-bromberg-aedas-canada/

Now that's a stunner. Can we have 20 more buildings like this downtown?

[DAVEinEDMONTON]

Originally Posted by CMD UW

This decision has 'spooked' many in the industry as it shows that Council can move the goal posts when there is a large, organized and vocal opposition from the community. This sets a very bad precedent for anyone else looking to rezone sites adjacent or near an LRT station. TOD Guidelines be damned. So much for wanting to get a return on our investment in LRT. Unreal really.

I do not think the industry really should be spooked because of this one.

Personally, I liked the development and I think it would have been great. That being said, I am not at all bothered that it was turned down.

Glenora is a very special place in this city. Part of it is or was protected by special caveats to not allow commercial development and as a result of that we have a very beautiful historical neighborhood. Not sure if this part of Glenora where the project was to be located fell within the caveat area but I suspect not.

The LRT having a stop in Glenora seems logical because the distance from 124 street to 142 street is very long and it makes sense. However, it will probably be the least used stop in the city. I ride the bus along both 102 avenue and Stony Plain Road and it seems that we rarely, if ever, pick up anyone along that section of the route. Plain and simple, Glenora residents generally do not take public transit. Yes, the odd person does I am sure and on Saturdays during the late mornings I have seen little old ladies get on to go downtown but usually after Crescent Place heading east to downtown, that portion of the ride to 124 street ends up being express.

The introduction of the LRT through Glenora is going to be bad enough with the loss of heritage trees (hopefully minimal) and hopefully blasting the LRT through this neighborhood won't take away from the character that is currently has. Adding commercial in this one particular location just might have been too much.

If the commercial development was to be anywhere else, I might question the city's whole transit oriented development philosophy. However, the uniqueness of this area should be taken into consideration and maybe this was the right decision.

I still would have liked to see it.

[feepa]

Originally Posted by rakesh

Now that's a stunner. Can we have 20 more buildings like this downtown?

The renders are sure nice. So were the initial renders of the new library...

I'm going to wait until we value engineered version before getting excited