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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 8:20 PM
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 8:27 PM
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I can confirm the two sites fronting Whyte Ave will look similar (both like the new renderings) and unlike the original renderings.


Unfortunately.
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Is that not what we saw early on with this? Far left, as opposed to the west I as mistakenly mentioned.


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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 9:00 PM
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River Crossing full business plan

https://www.edmonton.ca/documents/PDF/River_Crossing_Business_Plan_Report.pdf

Next Steps
Presenting the Business Plan Report to Council: September 3, 2019
The River Crossing Business Plan is scheduled to be presented to Urban Planning Committee September 3.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 9:17 PM
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Is that not what we saw early on with this? Far left, as opposed to the west I as mistakenly mentioned.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpb9Zc-UkAEKUw3.jpg
maybe you're right and it is the same.

except for the tower. and the massing. and the materials.

although it's hard to keep track - renderings seem to be disappearing from their site faster than one can reference/link to them.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 9:19 PM
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Site 3 (east of 106) is a better design, albeit same colour palette more or less and similar height. The South Park sign is incorporated and looks good. However, the building doesn't match the original renderings much at all.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 9:25 PM
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Why do we need the sign there? Put it on the Telus building downtown with the rest of them. Sub standard design and the sign to top it off.
     
     
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I love the sign element.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2019, 10:14 PM
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Why do we need the sign there? Put it on the Telus building downtown with the rest of them. Sub standard design and the sign to top it off.
the sign is the most redeeming element there is and you can't mess with something that's existing (or at least you shouldn't be allowed to mess with something existing like that).

this is a much more appropriate use of a sign than they managed with the bowmac sign in vancouver where they turned on the neon icons in the country into a toys r us caricature;

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2018/11/05/bowmac-sign-broadway-vancouver-history/
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Why do we need the sign there? Put it on the Telus building downtown with the rest of them. Sub standard design and the sign to top it off.
Because they had it designated a Municipal Historic Resource;
http://sirepub.edmonton.ca/sirepub/cache/2/mtfjwg3zdvromukbxq4cfqqn/70598808142019065649656.PDF
http://sirepub.edmonton.ca/sirepub/cache/2/mtfjwg3zdvromukbxq4cfqqn/70598708142019065609315.PDF
     
     
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From what I can see the major difference is the old rendering showed three floors of apartments the new on e four.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 2:19 AM
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A very disappointing outcome.
Why is it so easy to bait and switch here? Yes it's zoning compliant, but wasn't there a zoning change predicated on a certain plan? How come major developments can 'value engineer' themselves into this?
100 years from now this is what's thing to be doing there... Yikes.
     
     
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From what I can see the major difference is the old rendering showed three floors of apartments the new on e four.
take a look at the east building's staggered window and balcony treatments executed in a stone facade and take a look at the stacked ones in metal?/stucco? being shown now...
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I think gondola is the best thing ever for this area. Literally a 3-5 minute ride from heart of Downtown or Whyte: beats any bus or car

Seeing the river valley from above is just a bonus. The capability to move people down into Rossdale is key for this are to redevelop.
I absolutely agree. I was originally 100% against the idea of a gondola until I went to the stakeholder meeting awhile back. After hearing out their consultant and the multiple examples of gondola systems throughout the world I switched.
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Sweet Jeebuz. Why oh why is Edmonton architecture such a continual dumpster fire? So much fuel keeps getting added.
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Sweet Jeebuz. Why oh why is Edmonton architecture such a continual dumpster fire? So much fuel keeps getting added.
For the same reason that dollar stores exist. As long as there's a market for sub-par products that have a price that matches, there will be a supplier. That market is further driven by over-hyped products where you'd be paying a premium for a facade that adds no actual substantial benefit.
     
     
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Muttart Urban District is on my watch list, only one commercial retail space on the first building and it's on the opposite side of what was supposed to be the main commercial strip.
     
     
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That podium/street level though. smh!!! A big no!
     
     
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I believe that the renderings posted above are not comparing the same sites. The one that is currently under construction is located west of 106 Street (top rendering), the bottom rendering is the site located east of 106 Street which hasn't started.

While I am not too enthused with the rendering I am willing to see how this turns out. It looks like they are using some decent materials - brick masonry.
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