New Vancouver Art Gallery | Proposed

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

The roof complex covers drivers and buildings almost more so than pedestrians (which can be done much better for less money). It's an interesting pitch, but in the "hey, look at me" way, not as something functional or aesthetically pleasing.

There's various proposals for concert halls all the time. For example, that one a few years ago for the old courthouse once the VAG leaves.

The roof would have to cover a wide area to provide meaningful shelter from winter's driving rains.

The Sun article specifically mentions developer contributions intended for a concert hall whose site was superceded by the convention centre expansion. So where did that money go?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

The roof would have to cover a wide area to provide meaningful shelter from winter's driving rains.

The Sun article specifically mentions developer contributions intended for a concert hall whose site was superceded by the convention centre expansion. So where did that money go?

It almost certainly hasn't gone anywhere. It'll be sitting in an account, waiting for a realistic proposal for a future concert hall, although whether it would be enough money (and whether we actually need another concert hall, or could fund it's day to day running costs are certainly questions I'd want to see convincing answers to).

[officedweller]

I could easily see why you wouldn't want to be part of the Bing Thom VAG proposal.
One big earthquake and the whole collection might be gone.


https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...cluded-a-suspended-vancouver-art-gallery

[Migrant_Coconut]

From that angle, I can kinda see it working on a smaller scale. Limit it to Larwill, have half of the roof structure go all the way down to ground level (an inverted pyramid, maybe?), leave the other half as-is.

[officedweller]

The oddity I see with this design is - there's a massive outcry about the shadows and views blocked by a couple of 3 lane viaducts
- yet they want to have a plaza under what amounts to a big wide bridge-like structure?
If the City wants a covered plaza - bring back the Robson Square clamshell!

[Vin]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I could easily see why you wouldn't want to be part of the Bing Thom VAG proposal.
One big earthquake and the whole collection might be gone.


https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...cluded-a-suspended-vancouver-art-gallery

Not if those things propping the structure up are coiled springs.

[Feathered Friend]

Saturday, August 17 | 10 AM- 5 PM

Free and open to the public

Join Gallery Staff in the lobby between 10 AM and 5 PM for an intimate look at the final designs for your new Vancouver Art Gallery building and get your questions answered.

Come discover the many exciting and unique features of your new Gallery building!

http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/events/new-building-design-preview

[djh]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/events/new-building-design-preview

Well if they're going to present this same terrible design again but with minor tweaks, I hope the public votes with their feet and nobody attends. Perhaps then they'll take a hint that the design is underwhelming

[Forager]

I'm not a fan of the design at all but feel that the area could feel more dynamic if they pivoted the whole structure 45 degrees, offsetting it from the surrounding blocky square glass buildings. My two cents.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by djh

Well if they're going to present this same terrible design again but with minor tweaks, I hope the public votes with their feet and nobody attends. Perhaps then they'll take a hint that the design is underwhelming

Originally Posted by Forager

I'm not a fan of the design at all but feel that the area could feel more dynamic if they pivoted the whole structure 45 degrees, offsetting it from the surrounding blocky square glass buildings. My two cents.

Thank you for allowing me to quote you.
It simply reinforces my personal ("IMO") feeling that the design is substandard, anemic, hokey, and yes! "UNDERWHELMING" (what a perfect word in this case),
and that a whole new design is needed starting from scratch. In recent years, Vancouver has gone crisp, smart, and original in many of its major project designs.
But this one is really retrograde, a step backwards, and a travesty to the spirit of the city.

[jollyburger]

Who cares they don't have the money to build it.

[officedweller]

THE ARCHITECTS



HERZOG & DE MEURON

“The project for the new Vancouver Art Gallery has a civic dimension that can contribute to the life and identity of the city, in which many artists of international reputation live and work. The building now combines two materials, wood and glass, both inseparable from the history and making of the city,”

“The new Vancouver Art Gallery is spectacular at first sight, with an arrangement that resonates with the place where it is built. It offers ample outdoor spaces that are sunny in summer and protected from rain in winter, to suit the climate and life in British Columbia. Visitors to the building will be able to perceive Vancouver’s urbanity and its amazing natural setting in many different ways."

“Together with our team of BC experts and the Gallery, we have defined the building to a much higher degree: galleries, classrooms and reading rooms, the theatre, restaurants and shops, and all the public outdoor spaces are well enhanced. The new Vancouver Art Gallery is close to reality.”

—Christine Binswanger, Partner in Charge, Herzog & de Meuron.

...

http://vanartgallery.bc.ca/future-gallery

I wonder if they've considered wind-blown rain?
There isn't much shelter, only between the elevator cores directly under the tower (the space seems exaggerated in size in the renderings).
.. and the poor ticket sellers will have to wear parkas in winter when it snows (unless they glass them in, for all the personal interaction of a late night payment at a gas station).

[whatnext]

New restaurant to open in the art gallery November 28.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1931-gal...5RdEJLni_SAMh26Juht5btmVtXD8JI56xsTGwrrc

[whatnext]

In case anyone is interested in running the VAG, see the job posting below. No idea how comparable that salary is to other Canadian art galleries, though the optics of going to the provincial and federal governments with the begging bowl out, when you're making more than the Premier or Prime Minister are interesting:

https://www.allianceforarts.com/job-boar...ficer-amp-director-vancouver-art-gallery

[jollyburger]

So hiring someone to make $30,000 would somehow be better optics to get funding for a public arts facility.

[ranvancan]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

So hiring someone to make $30,000 would somehow be better optics to get funding for a public arts facility.

ummmmm......you forgot a zero.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by ranvancan

ummmmm......you forgot a zero.

No I didn't. He said $250-300K makes it impossible as an organization to request funding for a public arts facility. So someone making $30K should make a better case for funding VAG.

[jollyburger]

$1.5 million closer?

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...es-1-5-million-donation-for-new-building

[Changing City]

There's finally a new CEO at the Vancouver Art Gallery, and so they're hoping to move ahead with the proposed new building, although aspects of it are being rethought (like more escalators, and less reliance on elevators for vertical movement). The financing is still a long way off though; the total cost (including land) is now estimated at $490m. So far the land which would be donated by the City is $100m, the Province has guaranteed $50m, and private sector donors $85m. So that means they aren't yet half way to what they need - assuming it could be built at the estimated cost.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There's finally a new CEO at the Vancouver Art Gallery, and so they're hoping to move ahead with the proposed new building, although aspects of it are being rethought (like more escalators, and less reliance on elevators for vertical movement). The financing is still a long way off though; the total cost (including land) is now estimated at $490m. So far the land which would be donated by the City is $100m, the Province has guaranteed $50m, and private sector donors $85m. So that means they aren't yet half way to what they need - assuming it could be built at the estimated cost.

Unless there is a big increase in the buy-in from the Feds it won't be happening anytime soon. VAD has done a good job at fundraising but Vancouver's pool of philanthropist donors is small despite the high number of Ferraris on our streets.