Winnipeg Construction IX - Page 499

buzzg · #**9961** Posted **Jun 2, 2019, 1:55 AM**

If this is what it looks like now, I'd rather they just leave the glass exposed, haha. Also, not sure how they plan on putting that "micropark" in unless the barricades come down.

pspeid · #**9962** Posted **Jun 2, 2019, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

If this is what it looks like now, I'd rather they just leave the glass exposed, haha. Also, not sure how they plan on putting that "micropark" in unless the barricades come down.

I don't mind the "tweaks" the way they have been shown here, but yes it's interesting the drawing all show the barricades at P & M gone. Sure does look good.

buzzg · #**9963** Posted **Jun 2, 2019, 3:35 PM**

Also interesting that the city painted all the barricades for Pride. Looks great and I love that, but it is NOT going to wear well... makes me think they have some ulterior motives here... lol.

Summer 2020: "These look like sh*t now, they gotta go."

pspeid · #**9964** Posted **Jun 2, 2019, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

Also interesting that the city painted all the barricades for Pride. Looks great and I love that, but it is NOT going to wear well... makes me think they have some ulterior motives here... lol.

Summer 2020: "These look like sh*t now, they gotta go."

Oh I HOPE this is true!!!

cllew · #**9965** Posted **Jun 2, 2019, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

Also interesting that the city painted all the barricades for Pride. Looks great and I love that, but it is NOT going to wear well... makes me think they have some ulterior motives here... lol.

Summer 2020: "These look like sh*t now, they gotta go."

If it's water based paint the city used, a few minutes with the downtown biz's anti-graffiti pressure wash/soda blast crew and the barricades will look good as old.

pspeid · #**9966** Posted **Jun 2, 2019, 9:04 PM**

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If it's water based paint the city used, a few minutes with the downtown biz's anti-graffiti pressure wash/soda blast crew and the barricades will look good as old.

.....unless the pressure washers "accidentally" worsen the condition of these decaying" barriers? Maybe a city truck can "accidentally" back into one or two of them while cleaning? Of course I'm not suggesting they actually do this....that would be wrong....

bomberjet · #**9967** Posted **Jun 3, 2019, 1:41 PM**

labroco should be able to chime in on Waterfront North.

During earlier studies of the eastern corridor (2000-2005 ish?), There were plans drawn up to extend Waterfront all the way to the point of PD. Demoing some building, saving others. Rebuilding Louise Bridge, transitway was along the tracks connecting either to Disraeli pre reconstruction or to local streets.

It was a study, and I don't know what the status of Waterfront extension is. I seriously doubt the neighbourhood south of the tracks, if you want to call it that, has any appetite for it. PD is "a rural gem downtown" according to the residents and neighbourhood group who were at an eastern corridor open house.

blueandgoldguy · #**9968** Posted **Jun 3, 2019, 8:37 PM**

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labroco should be able to chime in on Waterfront North.

During earlier studies of the eastern corridor (2000-2005 ish?), There were plans drawn up to extend Waterfront all the way to the point of PD. Demoing some building, saving others. Rebuilding Louise Bridge, transitway was along the tracks connecting either to Disraeli pre reconstruction or to local streets.

It was a study, and I don't know what the status of Waterfront extension is. I seriously doubt the neighbourhood south of the tracks, if you want to call it that, has any appetite for it. PD is "a rural gem downtown" according to the residents and neighbourhood group who were at an eastern corridor open house.

The Neighbourhood south of the tracks appears to consists of a clump of residential on Curtis and Annabella St. with 6 or so houses and then another clump of 20 or so houses on Boyle and Grace. When you go to street view some of these houses do not even look habitable - plywood over the doors, plastic over the windows. Between the 2 clumps how many people are actually living there? 20? 40? Maybe 50? There is one small playground that is the only thing of note in the entire area. Abondoned looking trailer, shipping container, junk on lawns, trees in desperate need of TLC are the only things of note. Rural gem indeed....

BAKGUY · #**9969** Posted **Jun 3, 2019, 10:16 PM**

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The Neighbourhood south of the tracks appears to consists of a clump of residential on Curtis and Annabella St. with 6 or so houses and then another clump of 20 or so houses on Boyle and Grace. When you go to street view some of these houses do not even look habitable - plywood over the doors, plastic over the windows. Between the 2 clumps how many people are actually living there? 20? 40? Maybe 50? There is one small playground that is the only thing of note in the entire area. Abondoned looking trailer, shipping container, junk on lawns, trees in desperate need of TLC are the only things of note. Rural gem indeed....

It is ...95% at least very slum like and I suppose they could save the odd home in good repair but they are far and few between...Plus the time has come to gentrify the district.

1ajs · #**9970** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 12:12 AM**

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The Neighbourhood south of the tracks appears to consists of a clump of residential on Curtis and Annabella St. with 6 or so houses and then another clump of 20 or so houses on Boyle and Grace. When you go to street view some of these houses do not even look habitable - plywood over the doors, plastic over the windows. Between the 2 clumps how many people are actually living there? 20? 40? Maybe 50? There is one small playground that is the only thing of note in the entire area. Abondoned looking trailer, shipping container, junk on lawns, trees in desperate need of TLC are the only things of note. Rural gem indeed....

the houses u speak of on curtis and annabela are homes of some prominant artists that are well cared for

buzzg · #**9971** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 1:39 AM**

Anyone know what’s going on at 180 Main (SkyBridge)? Looks like the whole building has been gutted, and there’s M Builds (fka Manshield) signs all over the building.

cllew · #**9972** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 1:45 AM**

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Anyone know what’s going on at 180 Main (SkyBridge)? Looks like the whole building has been gutted, and there’s M Builds (fka Manshield) signs all over the building.

From what I have heard one of the private trade schools is relocating into that building from their exchange location.

wags_in_the_peg · #**9973** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 12:56 PM**

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Anyone know what’s going on at 180 Main (SkyBridge)? Looks like the whole building has been gutted, and there’s M Builds (fka Manshield) signs all over the building.

Grapes on Main coming back HA HA! Hopefully they bring windows back to that building

buzzg · #**9974** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 2:51 PM**

The paint job on the barricades is so bad I just can’t help but think there’s some secret plan here haha. Half covered sockets and lights, really crooked lines, lol.

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Grapes on Main coming back HA HA! Hopefully they bring windows back to that building

Not that building, the one to the south.

BAKGUY · #**9975** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

The paint job on the barricades is so bad I just can’t help but think there’s some secret plan here haha. Half covered sockets and lights, really crooked lines, lol.

Not that building, the one to the south.

Sure looks exactly to be the former Grapes site.. Inman Motors bldg. http://winnipegdowntownplaces.blogspot.com/2016/06/180-main-street-inman-motors-building.html

Curmudgeon · #**9976** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 5:41 PM**

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It is ...95% at least very slum like and I suppose they could save the odd home in good repair but they are far and few between...Plus the time has come to gentrify the district.

Suggesting 95% is completely false. The majority of the homes are in need of a few coats of paint or some repair, but the area has the potential to be really quite beautiful, almost small town-esque with the existing housing stock, the trees and the riverbank, which looks across to a park. My guess is that younger people would snap up those houses (many of which also have decent lot sizes) for a rather small investment IF they could be certain that the area is safe, which at present it is not, or certainly does not feel so.

The area also has to become much more friendly to pedestrians. There are two schools within a 20 minute walk of the small area adjacent to the bend in Higgins, but the walk is not at all friendly for children. The area could be tied into north St. Boniface by way of a pedestrian/cyclist bridge, but at present I'm sure that would be opposed by residents in north St. Boniface, and of course the city would say that such a bridge would come in at $300 or $400 million, which is many multiple times what it would cost. I wonder if infrastructure estimates given in this city include large amounts other than for the infrastructure?

There are negative consequences to gentrification as well as positive. Culture emanates from the working class and is popularized by the middle class. Cities that become overly gentrified become sterile and boring. Many have said in recent years that San Francisco and even Manhattan lack the urban vibrancy that they once had.

blueandgoldguy · #**9977** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 6:15 PM**

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the houses u speak of on curtis and annabela are homes of some prominant artists that are well cared for

The houses on Curtis do appear well-maintained, but the red house on Annabella by the river looks rough to put it mildly. Next to it is a house I can't see on street view due to all the overgrown trees and red house on the corner of Higgins and Annabella appear to be well-maintained as well. However, both appear to have lots of junk in their yard including what looks to be a friggin shipping container

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Winnip...fac6b9ca64!8m2!3d49.895136!4d-97.1383744

I don't know. Maybe they are hoarders?

The other clump of houses further to the east are mostly in very rough shape with some appearing uninhabitable. There is one street there though that appears to have well-maintained houses. Still, "neighbourhood gem" is a generous description of the area as most of the houses are long past their best before date.

wags_in_the_peg · #**9978** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 6:27 PM**

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However, both appear to have lots of junk in their yard including what looks to be a friggin shipping container

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you call it junk, they call it ART! boom boom boom is my solution to much of that area and many other areas. if only we could without people getting hurt.

I know it's crude, but in past 3 months I've temporary moved offices where my daily commute i cut from Main st to Mcphillips, brings me down many streets (always talking different route). i'm shocked at the disrespect people have for where they are living. just because you may be renting, isn't a reason to leave garbage and crap all over the yard.

being poor doesnt mean being a slob

Curmudgeon · #**9979** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 6:30 PM**

^^^ they can easily be rehabilitated and some date to the 19th century. The potential is amazing. Dewdney is one of the neatest streets in Winnipeg. It really does feel like you are stepping back in time and reminds me of what the Marigny and the Bywater in New Orleans looked like prior to their gentrification (which has not been overdone). The Ellis Boarding House is indeed one of the area's many gems and is remarkably intact.

https://www.winnipeg.ca/ppd/Documents/Heritage/ListHistoricalResources/Boyle43-short.pdf

I despise modernists who wish to destroy the fabric of our city and impose Bridgewater type development everywhere.

Curmudgeon · #**9980** Posted **Jun 4, 2019, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

you call it junk, they call it ART! boom boom boom is my solution to much of that area and many other areas. if only we could without people getting hurt.

I know it's crude, but in past 3 months I've temporary moved offices where my daily commute i cut from Main st to Mcphillips, brings me down many streets (always talking different route). i'm shocked at the disrespect people have for where they are living. just because you may be renting, isn't a reason to leave garbage and crap all over the yard.

being poor doesnt mean being a slob

There is a Neighbourhood Liveability By-Law which is not enforced.

Ultimatedly the landlord is responsible for the condition of the property.