West Gatineau Tramway & Downtown Loop | Proposed

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

I see the need for federal investment if we ever want to see an interprovincial loop. I see the need of federal investment if we want any sort of proper interprovincial transit connectivity especially if trains are involved.

How do you see a loop being routed?

I guess I am not following what STO is proposing to get trains even to Lyon Station. How do they get there? They are not going through the Garden of the Provinces. They can't be going through the cliff because that is where the Confederation Line tunnel is. They must be using Wellington and turning onto Lyon and then reversing. Still a pretty sharp turn for all those trains. This is awful long way from key destinations including the Rideau Centre, Byward Market and the U of O. Lots of transfers taking place and unhappy customers.

Good Day.

Federal investment for sure, big time. Neither Provincial will invest in any cross-province build-outs.

As for getting from the Portage to Sparks / Lyon, as Kitchissippi posted for his plan
( http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8164337#post8164337 )
and I similarly posted in reading the preliminary coverage of the reports from Gatineau
( http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214731&page=38 , post 749 )

That leaves the question of surface .vs. tunnel open to costs and negotiation,
esp. if OC-T co-ordinated planning a T-Line extension past Zibi/Chaudiere through/under/to the north end of Portage Br., a natural intersect/station.

And if the Gat line runs the Portage Br., it could drive through or dive under the interchange to the SJAM intersection, or dive just to the south to head for Sparks and Lyon/Parl.
(Surface to Lyon/Parl will not be tolerated, and the additional cost will have to be ponied up by the Feds, as neither Prov will consider it, reasonably.)

So if Ott and Gat negotiate a STO to Lyon/Parl,
in conjunction with a T-Line to Chaudiere/Portage,
and if the Feds rebuild Alexandra to include LRT/MUP, allowing STO to Rideau at the Chateau,
(or deeper to allow a turn to join the STO at Lyon/Parl, but that's a really big IF, and again, surface just ain't gonna pass)......

That gets you to Lyon or Parl station, and as for Ottawa, surface LRT into and in downtown just ain't gonna pass muster -
- it has to be tunneled (IMO) for any dependability and traffic concerns and demonstrators concerns (purposeful blockages).

As for the Loop, any consideration is rife with complexities - a big headache.