The Great Canadian Transit Thread - Page 623

CityTech · #**12441** Posted **May 11, 2019, 3:16 PM**

^ I calculated that if substantial completion is signed off and the 12 day testing completes successfully in one try, opening day is June 23rd.

Dengler Avenue · #**12442** Posted **May 11, 2019, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityTech

^ I calculated that if substantial completion is signed off and the 12 day testing completes successfully in one try, opening day is June 23rd.

Very nice. 2 days after Kitchener - Waterloo’s.

isaidso · #**12443** Posted **May 11, 2019, 10:40 PM**

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The solution to this is to just limit your number of vehicles to 15-20/h.

For a route like that surely the solution is to have the PT elevated or buried.

Aylmer · #**12444** Posted **May 12, 2019, 12:55 AM**

If it's like Ottawa, with peak demand approaching the limit that even street-level signal priority LRT would be able to sustain, then yeah, grade-separation is probably the way to go.

ClaytonA · #**12445** Posted **May 12, 2019, 7:48 PM**

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regio...ropose-a-quebec-un-projet-plus-petit.php

Noise about a Plan B for Quebec City's tram project.

SkahHigh · #**12446** Posted **May 12, 2019, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by ClaytonA

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regio...ropose-a-quebec-un-projet-plus-petit.php

Noise about a Plan B for Quebec City's tram project.

Legault and his government once again proving their incompetence when it comes to infrastructure in this province.

The will is there, unfortunately the quality of ideas isn't.

Reecemartin · #**12447** Posted **May 13, 2019, 4:17 PM**

We checked out construction at Mount Dennis and the EMSF and made a video about it:

https://youtu.be/5RFK6l1HBMY

Really excited about the progress here!

hipster duck · #**12448** Posted **May 13, 2019, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Legault and his government once again proving their incompetence when it comes to infrastructure in this province.

The will is there, unfortunately the quality of ideas isn't.

I wonder what the rough alignment for the truncated LRT for QC will be. Quebec City has a lot of disadvantages for building a successful rail-based transit system. Its topography is kind of challenging and it has a bunch of mid-sized trip generators that are scattered all over the place and at different elevations: Ste Foy, the old town, the St Roch CBD, the government district near the Grande Allee, the centre Fleur-de-Lys/Expo Cite area, not to mention Levis. Some of them will be invariably left out by any plan.

Chadillaccc · #**12449** Posted **May 13, 2019, 9:41 PM**

Dope! Calgary Transit has finally released the map of our rapid transit network once the Green Line is complete. Love this stuff.

SkahHigh · #**12450** Posted **May 13, 2019, 9:57 PM**

^holy cow, the Green Line really has a ton of stations.

accord1999 · #**12451** Posted **May 13, 2019, 10:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

^holy cow, the Green Line really has a ton of stations.

In it's final, not yet funded form. The actual line in 2026 will (at best) look like this only.

Chadillaccc · #**12452** Posted **May 13, 2019, 10:16 PM**

I am unclear as to why you added your "at best" caveat, as that is the approved routing, and is indeed what will be built in the first phase. The second phase (the rest) won't be long after, especially if the UCP wants to be re-elected, as Calgary's the only battleground in the province.

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

^holy cow, the Green Line really has a ton of stations.

Yeah, it's a 46 km rapid transit line. 28 stations is actually probably a small amount, considering the length of the line. It's only 1 station every 1.6 km. That's because of the large expanse of industrial area it goes through in the SE though.

accord1999 · #**12453** Posted **May 13, 2019, 10:31 PM**

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I am unclear as to why you added your "at best" caveat, as that is the approved routing, and is indeed what will be built in the first phase.

There's always the risk of cost-overruns, especially with a long tunnel in a downtown core.

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The second phase (the rest) won't be long after.

The City still haven't decided what Phase 2 is yet and what its order of priority will be versus expansions for the other LRT lines. And completing the Green Line (North Pointe to Seton) will be extremely expensive at >$3B. The planning the City showed in its March update to Council suggested that it was mostly contemplating smaller expansions.

MalcolmTucker · #**12454** Posted **May 13, 2019, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by accord1999

There's always the risk of cost-overruns, especially with a long tunnel in a downtown core.

The City still haven't decided what Phase 2 is yet and what its order of priority will be versus expansions for the other LRT lines. And completing the Green Line (North Pointe to Seton) will be extremely expensive at >$3B. The planning the City showed in its March update to Council suggested that it was mostly contemplating smaller expansions.

Hence why design build is a good thing. The city has drilled a lot of core samples to reduce unknowns, and hopefully avoid cost overruns spilling back to the city as may eventually happen in Ottawa.

milomilo · #**12455** Posted **May 13, 2019, 11:52 PM**

Nm, I'm an idiot.

Chadillaccc · #**12456** Posted **May 13, 2019, 11:55 PM**

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Why is 2 Ave on there? How did they get something so simple wrong, did they just get an intern to make it? Ditto one of the northern stations was dropped too, I think.

Because 2 Avenue is a station. I don't understand your confusion, it's always been one of the approved stations. Also known as Eau Claire Station. The only station removed from the line was 9 Avenue North Station, and as such 16 Ave Station was moved a block south. 9 Avenue Station is not on the map.

milomilo · #**12457** Posted **May 13, 2019, 11:56 PM**

Never mind, I'm an idiot, sorry! Got mixed up.

The Chemist · #**12458** Posted **May 14, 2019, 12:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yeah, it's a 46 km rapid transit line. 28 stations is actually probably a small amount, considering the length of the line. It's only 1 station every 1.6 km. That's because of the large expanse of industrial area it goes through in the SE though.

Yes, that is actually a fairly small number of stations considering the line length. As a comparison, the Metro line (underground) they are building past my apartment complex here in Shanghai is 42.3km long (I believe it's all underground, but there may be some elevated on the north end) and has 30 stations.

The nearest comparable Shanghai Metro line to the Green Line in length is Line 7, which is 44.2km in length and has 33 stations, again more than the Green Line.

SkahHigh · #**12459** Posted **May 14, 2019, 2:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Chemist

Yes, that is actually a fairly small number of stations considering the line length. As a comparison, the Metro line (underground) they are building past my apartment complex here in Shanghai is 42.3km long (I believe it's all underground, but there may be some elevated on the north end) and has 30 stations.

The nearest comparable Shanghai Metro line to the Green Line in length is Line 7, which is 44.2km in length and has 33 stations, again more than the Green Line.

It’s probably the map that gave me the impression that stations are really close to each other.

gunnar777 · #**12460** Posted **May 14, 2019, 3:08 AM**

Good for Calgary. They deserve a bit of good news ever since, you know.

But why are there no interchanges between the green line and the other lines?