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Old Posted Feb 24, 2019, 4:12 AM
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Few months ago with all the Streetsblog hate of Uber/Lyft and ride sharing, I started checking into the agenda-biased research that had been published. Later I decided to research ride-sharing blogs to get some good firsthand anecdotal feedback.

At some point a light went on and I thought why don't I consider doing this. In recent years I've drifted to being much more of a passive investor meaning I had too much time on my hands. Additionally I inherited a now growing loss of hearing but I realized that wouldn't be an issue as an Uber/Lyft driver. Within the confines of my car it's only slightly an issue.

So I (finally) started doing ride-sharing three weeks ago. My goal is to drive six hours and make at least $100 dollars a day. It's not the best way to make a living as I make $15 an hour (trending somewhat higher) and my gas costs are running 17.5% of income. It works well for me as I have a 5 1/2 year old SUV with very low miles that's fully depreciated. Since I have Medicare I don't have to worry about that or taxes as the 58 cents a mile allowance should leave me with very little income if any after expenses.

I'm having a blast; it helped that I learned how to 'work smart' before I started. I work the hotel/visitor crowd in North Scottsdale along with locals but it's the Sky Harbor rides where I make easy bank. 'My area' has four large resort/conference hotels of 700-1,100 rooms (including casitas) with two JW Marriott's, one Fairmont and one Westin plus at least another 15-20 hotels generally with 200-400 rooms. Keeps me busy. I end up having to turn down trips when I need my old guy potty & lunch breaks when I usually also walk for ten to fifteen minutes.

So if you ever want a ride... come on down for Rockies Spring Training games.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2019, 4:31 AM
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You're speaking for yourself ofc and honestly Seattle is very different & unique. Your RapidRide routes have done well which 'generally' mimic Denver's light rail lines. Seattle has achieved an unusually high percentage of 'choice' riders who are satisfied.

Denver seems to reflect Portland's experience in that most gentrifiers are not fond of riding Big Bertha buses. Many bike (or walk) but are only about 7% of the total of commuters into downtown Denver.

We've debated the "missing middle" in housing mix; with respect to transit the missing middle is shuttle style buses that would carry ~35 passengers and be more efficient and appealing to choice riders - in Denver. Uber/Lyft have found their niche but transit's middle is missing.
No, I'm speaking for many cities, including Denver, where a significant percentage of people don't drive to their jobs in the core, and live in neighborhoods where at least some of the conveniences are a short walk away.

There are numerous US cities where apartments often go up with fewer parking spaces than units, and much of the existing stock has little parking. Portland is another example, without even getting to the Boston or Philly types.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2019, 4:41 AM
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Great post; didn't realize a year had already passed but I recall your rant.

IIRC, on a different topic I think you mentioned Reuters being your go-to site. It's now become mine as well. At the time I loved Bloomberg news but they put up a Big paywall and since I didn't use any of their financial resources (I've always preferred MarketWatch for that) I had to find a new source. I now combine Reuters with a little CNN for my daily dose or Politico if I have extra time.

Glad to hear everything has worked out well for you.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2019, 4:56 AM
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No, I'm speaking for many cities, including Denver, where a significant percentage of people don't drive to their jobs in the core, and live in neighborhoods where at least some of the conveniences are a short walk away.

There are numerous US cities where apartments often go up with fewer parking spaces than units, and much of the existing stock has little parking. Portland is another example, without even getting to the Boston or Philly types.
Eh, we're talking past each other a bit. I don't put Denver in a class with the NE, Chicago and San Francisco. Seattle is rapidly becoming more like those (transit) cities.

Portland is a fair comparison but they've been transiting and densifying for longer than Denver. I'm not saying there's not a (growing) number of walkable areas in Denver; ofc there is. But that doesn't automatically add up to (much) more transit riders.

Does Denver have it's share of transit dependent drivers? Ya sure but it's been well proven that even lower socioeconomic residents have access to 10X the number jobs if they have a car. For example, there's a gazillion Hispanic workers that do landscape work in Phoenix. Every day they go to a different site to work; buses won't take them there; they need their friends to ride-share with.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2019, 6:27 AM
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You're expanding the topic way beyond my point...things can be very different for people who live and work in the urban core, in Denver and many other cities.
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In order for this town to change into what I would like it be, public transportation would have to become exponentially more convenient and ubiquitous.
You know, I used to think the answer to all of this was to have better transit. Blanket the arterials with transitways, have TOD along the arterials, and things'll be better.

I think I was wrong. The transit is a symptom, not a cause, and changing land use along the arterials only works to push on the margins. It's better maybe, but only a little.

To really change things, change the root cause: Single-family zoning in the central city. Denver has a dense downtown, a couple of sort-of-dense neighborhoods around it, and then basically suburbs. Wash Park, Highlands--those are suburbs, structurally. So of course most of the jobs and most of the housing is inherently car-oriented. It's no wonder TOD has not made a meaningful difference, when we never legalized a meaningful amount of TOD in the first place.

If you want a European-like city, you need your city to have European-like land use. That means neighborhoods full of apartments. Not just one street of apartments between the arterial and a bunch of houses, neighborhoods full of apartments. It means making it legal for the detached houses that define most of the central city to become apartments. Not just rowhouses, apartments.

There *are* that many apartments in Denver. But they're spread around in little complexes here and there, surrounded by parking lots. Instead of making 5% of the land in every neighborhood apartments, and instead of building a bunch of garden apartments along Colorado Blvd or down Leetsdale, cluster them in the central neighborhoods. You can't change the past, but you can do it for the next generation if you want to.

With that density and that growth, you get a virtuous cycle in which it becomes obvious to rededicate street space to transit, and more jobs and people locate in the central city rather than Commerce City, etc etc. But the base condition isn't the transit, it's the land use.

Yes yes, I can hear the detached-house apologists already: But you're forcing us to become something we're not! Fascist! No. I don't want to force anybody to do anything. I only want to legalize the change that I think people would make on their own if we let them. I want to stop forcing people to drive to Commerce City even when they don't want to. I want to give them a meaningful choice, and this is how. If you don't believe people want to make that choice, then there's no reason to hold onto zoning laws that ban that choice today. I am not the preventer of freedom in this argument. If we legalize it and it doesn't happen, fine with me. But don't ban that freedom of choice and then pat yourself on the back for being a champion of freedom.
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...Not just apartments, but also large swaths of the city where building parking is an option but not required. When parking is a separate choice, developers and tenants often make very different decisions.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2019, 11:18 PM
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You know, I used to think the answer to all of this was to have better transit. Blanket the arterials with transitways, have TOD along the arterials, and things'll be better.

I think I was wrong. The transit is a symptom, not a cause, and changing land use along the arterials only works to push on the margins. It's better maybe, but only a little.

To really change things, change the root cause: Single-family zoning in the central city. Denver has a dense downtown, a couple of sort-of-dense neighborhoods around it, and then basically suburbs. Wash Park, Highlands--those are suburbs, structurally. So of course most of the jobs and most of the housing is inherently car-oriented. It's no wonder TOD has not made a meaningful difference, when we never legalized a meaningful amount of TOD in the first place.

If you want a European-like city, you need your city to have European-like land use. That means neighborhoods full of apartments. Not just one street of apartments between the arterial and a bunch of houses, neighborhoods full of apartments. It means making it legal for the detached houses that define most of the central city to become apartments. Not just rowhouses, apartments.

There *are* that many apartments in Denver. But they're spread around in little complexes here and there, surrounded by parking lots. Instead of making 5% of the land in every neighborhood apartments, and instead of building a bunch of garden apartments along Colorado Blvd or down Leetsdale, cluster them in the central neighborhoods. You can't change the past, but you can do it for the next generation if you want to.

With that density and that growth, you get a virtuous cycle in which it becomes obvious to rededicate street space to transit, and more jobs and people locate in the central city rather than Commerce City, etc etc. But the base condition isn't the transit, it's the land use.

Yes yes, I can hear the detached-house apologists already: But you're forcing us to become something we're not! Fascist! No. I don't want to force anybody to do anything. I only want to legalize the change that I think people would make on their own if we let them. I want to stop forcing people to drive to Commerce City even when they don't want to. I want to give them a meaningful choice, and this is how. If you don't believe people want to make that choice, then there's no reason to hold onto zoning laws that ban that choice today. I am not the preventer of freedom in this argument. If we legalize it and it doesn't happen, fine with me. But don't ban that freedom of choice and then pat yourself on the back for being a champion of freedom.
Yes. I agree with all of this. I don't think it's going to happen though. The NIMBYism here is stronger than in most places for some reason (stronger than any place I've ever lived anyway). Wash Park for instance will never change. Its residents would never allow it.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2019, 11:20 PM
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...Not just apartments, but also large swaths of the city where building parking is an option but not required. When parking is a separate choice, developers and tenants often make very different decisions.
I agree with this too. However, as much as I don't like parking minimums, I don't like maximums either. I think I might be alone with that opinion.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2019, 7:14 AM
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You know, I used to think the answer to all of this was to have better transit. Blanket the arterials with transitways, have TOD along the arterials, and things'll be better.

I think I was wrong. The transit is a symptom, not a cause, and changing land use along the arterials only works to push on the margins. It's better maybe, but only a little.
I love how your mind works since it's so different from mine. I suspect I'm too old to be so creative although I've always been more about nuts and bolts.

I love how you hijack the concept of 'freedom.' My view would be if voters want to approve whatever then I'll respect their choice regardless of my own feelings. But the notion of having overlords mandate these types of decisions holds no appeal for me.

While Denver is surely changing I'm still not sure how many give a flip what Europe does or is like. I suspect most just want Denver to be like Denver.

Personally I still feel like TOD is one key part; the problem is that the National Guys with access to ready funding are only interested in Denver's downtown and RiNo area, basically. That leaves locals to find conventional financing which is much harder.

The other important consideration is employment density. Consider Denver's new and nice 1144 15th St building. Recently read that Amazon is now assumed to have accumulated 10 million Sq Ft in Seattle. That's the equivalent of fourteen 1144's. Visualize that enormous difference.

Is creating a Utopian central Denver with arbitrary boundaries all that important? I'm not so sure but it any case that would still be decades down the road.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2019, 6:32 PM
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Scooter Crash Puts Man In The Hospital With A Traumatic Brain Injury
March 19, 2019 By Rick Sallinger - CBS4 Denver
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DENVER (CBS4) – Riding an electric scooter in Denver can be convenient, but it can also be dangerous. Henry Bromelkamp is in intensive care at Denver Health Medical Center after he crashed on the scooter he was riding March 10. ... “He has suffered what’s been described to me as permanent injuries. He will not be same person again if he survives this.”

“Scooters go about 15 mph. I can’t run 15 mph, but imagine running as fast as you can head first into a brick wall and you get some idea of what a scooter crash does to your brain,” he said.
Who will bear the liability for this?
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Who will bear the liability for this?
The dumbf**k who crashed the scooter and is now a sack of meat (when you operate the scooter you waive liability against the scooter owner)- unless the scooter was somehow defective or if another dumbf**k somehow caused the sack of meat to crash (if the sack of meat brings suit).
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2019, 7:57 PM
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The dumbf**k who crashed the scooter and is now a sack of meat (when you operate the scooter you waive liability against the scooter owner)- unless the scooter was somehow defective or if another dumbf**k somehow caused the sack of meat to crash (if the sack of meat brings suit).
I think I got the picture...


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Who will bear the liability for this?
Well, most people don't go suing Chevrolet, Lexus, or Hyundai when they solo crash their car. And nobody riding their bike sues Trek or Surley or Schwinn when they lay it down on a slick part of the road. If they did, they'd lose embarrassingly, and I can only imagine the same outcome would apply here.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2019, 10:06 PM
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A bill expected to be introduced this afternoon will seek to “de-Bruce” state government, much like voters in 174 of the state’s 178 school districts have done, allowing it to retain billions of dollars in the coming years that otherwise would go back to voters in the form of tax breaks and refunds because the money exceeded the maximum amount the state could keep and spend under TABOR, which was authored by Douglas Bruce. Whatever is retained by the state would be split equally three ways between transportation, higher education and K-12 education.
So how much we talking about Charlie?
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Part of the problem here is that the current legislature wants to suck up as much as possible for pet programs. If you want good infrastructure bones then move to a state that cares.

This is more of a First-Step but what a Two-Step would look like only Brooks and Dunn can say.
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Any chance of a reasonable discussion on the potential for the imminent arrival of autonomous electric vehicles?
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Any chance of a reasonable discussion on the potential for the imminent arrival of autonomous electric vehicles?
What’s imminent? 5 years? 10? 30?
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Driverless cars will come the same time we'll be able to get thousands of tests done through a drop of blood on the Theranos machine.
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Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes

Yesterday I picked up a gal from Scottsdale Quarter (shopping) for a ride back to the JW Marriott Desert Ridge. Got to chatting and couple that lives in Denver is down here for some conferences; they had moved to Denver from New York. Her hubby works at 18th & California so he commutes by taking the H Line from Nine Mile Station. They live in Piney Creek (Parker Rd and Orchard) and he loves commuting via light rail.

I haven't told my new life story on the Denver threads. A while back, due to all the Streetsblog commotion over Uber/Lyft I started doing my own research. At some point the light went on and I asked myself "maybe I should look at doing this; give me something constructive to do." So I did.

Having a blast. Driving primarily for Uber works well for me. I had a 5 1/2 year old Honda CR-V with 14,000 miles so putting on lots of miles not a problem. I don't have to worry about medical insurance since I have my Medicare; don't have to worry about withholding since the 58 cents per mile allowance will wipe out most of the income. Lastly, with some age-induced hearing loss it's one thing that I can do where it doesn't matter or rarely is a bother.

What an eye-opening experience. From gate-guarded neighborhoods to driving the cooks home where those folks go out to eat, the variety of people and their reasons for using Uber/Lyft is fascinating. It's a fun look at today's changing world... and it is (always) changing.

Quick story; guy flying from Phoenix to Dallas. He grew up in Austin, he works for Dell (24 years), lived in Toronto for four years before picking between Denver and Phoenix for his next place to live. After spending time in Denver he wanted no part of Snow Season. He likes to get up at 4:00 a.m. to go hiking at one of the many nearby desert preserve hiking trails before later heading to the airport for his week's next assignment.

Footnote: Understandably many of the more interesting stories are more relevant on the Phoenix thread.
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