Calgary International Airport II

[lubicon]

Originally Posted by Acey

YLW/YVR originators were "greater than" 30 pax today, onward connections from ATL greater than 50%.
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Both those numbers are positive to see.

Originally Posted by Cage

Good numbers on YYC-ATL is very promising indication the route will perform very well. I have high hopes for this route and have long felt that DL could have made this route work their own. My now not so bold prediction is this route will go 2 times daily and feed into the European departure bank. This is a huge deal for YYC as it best option for connecting to the entire SE USA.

As for the red eye from YVR-ATL, there are about 4-8 arrivals from South America at that time, nothing that would bring about massive line-ups.

It also opens up another option for connecting onward to South America, and a pretty attractive one at that.

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by Acey

It's somewhat attractive southbound, but northbound is filthy. Those South Americas are redeyes both ways so SCL, EZE, GIG, GRU are all landing before 0600 then you're camping all the way till 1700. Realistically you're taking the 7 am to MSP which gets you there in time to connect here and arrive at 1400.

I came really close to booking this. (YYC-ATL-GRU) as I was hoping to collect SkyMiles on my trip to Brazil. But the price jumped, so I ended up going with AC via YYZ. The long connection didn't really bother me.

[lubicon]

Originally Posted by Acey

It's somewhat attractive southbound, but northbound is filthy. Those South Americas are redeyes both ways so SCL, EZE, GIG, GRU are all landing before 0600 then you're camping all the way till 1700. Realistically you're taking the 7 am to MSP which gets you there in time to connect here and arrive at 1400.

Good to know. I was not really looking at the return times but the departure schedule seemed to work much better than the alternative (United via Houston) which seemed to suffer the same situation but in reverse (long layover at IAH). MX via YVR still looks the best despite an extra connection.

[thenoflyzone]

Largest unserved Canadian routes to some of the main Asian hubs:

rolling 12 month O&D numbers

PEK-YOW 25,850 (13th largest unserved route from PEK)
YUL-HKG 34,782 (10th largest unserved market from HKG)
YYC-HKG 41,814 (5th largest unserved market from HKG)
SIN-YVR 39,790 (5th largest unserved market from SIN)
SIN-YYZ 40,841 (4th largest unserve market from SIN)
ICN-YYC 34,950 (12th largest unserved market from ICN)
BKK-YVR 59,820 (14th largest unserved market from BKK)
DEL-YYC 55,154 (9th largest unserved market from DEL)
DEL-YEG 42,050 (14th largest unserved market from DEL)

https://www.anna.aero/2019/03/06/100-routes-asias-top-10-airports-non-stop-service/

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Largest unserved Canadian routes to some of the main Asian hubs:

rolling 12 month O&D numbers

PEK-YOW 25,850 (13th largest unserved route from PEK)
YUL-HKG 34,782 (10th largest unserved market from HKG)
YYC-HKG 41,814 (5th largest unserved market from HKG)
SIN-YVR 39,790 (5th largest unserved market from SIN)
SIN-YYZ 40,841 (4th largest unserve market from SIN)
ICN-YYC 34,950 (12th largest unserved market from ICN)
BKK-YVR 59,820 (14th largest unserved market from BKK)
DEL-YYC 55,154 (9th largest unserved market from DEL)
DEL-YEG 42,050 (14th largest unserved market from DEL)

https://www.anna.aero/2019/03/06/100-routes-asias-top-10-airports-non-stop-service/

I can maybe see ICN happening. Maybe if WS gets an expanded agreement with KE. Would make for a better connecting experience then at PEK/PKX.

[YYCFlier]

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

I can maybe see ICN happening. Maybe if WS gets an expanded agreement with KE. Would make for a better connecting experience then at PEK/PKX.

That was what I figured as well. If they launch anything, ICN would make sense with JV with KE.

HU is odd, you can't really connect anywhere useful with that flight.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Acey

Before the inevitable "why doesn't WS launch HKG", be aware of what these numbers represent. Presented more favourably as PDEW = passengers daily each way:
(41,814 ÷ 365) ÷ 2 = 57 PDEW

i.e. 70% of the seats on a Q400.

Kinda cool that were 5th, though. The number of people on both AC and WS connecting onto the Asian banks at YVR is obscene. The number of pax on AC231 connecting to DEL is equally obscene. If AC announced tomorrow that AC44 now routes YYC-YVR-DEL it'd shock nobody here (this is mostly in jest, it obviously wouldn't happen)

YYC-HKG can really only work for CX or anyone with a JV with CX.

On the interline to JV spectrum, AC has a closer relationship with CX than WS has with CX. AC codeshares on a number of CX flights out of HKG. AC and CX are also close on the cargo front, I hear there is a large market for rubber dog poop out of HKG.

[suburbia]

Scorpion bites passenger as flight comes in for landing at YYC
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/scorpion-air-transat-flight-1.5050236

[zahav]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Scorpion bites passenger as flight comes in for landing at YYC
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/scorpion-air-transat-flight-1.5050236

This is absolutely terrifying, it must have made it on board from one of the sun flights

[hollywoodcory]

Some US changes.

AA:
ORD - Extended until Nov. 1, previously ended beginning of Sept. Opps 1x daily from Sep 5.

UA:
Mostly equipment changes.
IAH - 1x daily 738 / 1x daily 319
SFO - 1x daily 320 / 1x daily 319
ORD - 4th daily flight added on Sundays. 3x daily mainline 320/319/738 and 1x daily E75 Express.

[YYCFlier]

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

AA:
ORD - Extended until Nov. 1, previously ended beginning of Sept. Opps 1x daily

Wonder if we we will this go year-round finally.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by Acey

Mar 12 WS1590 YYC-ATL - Boeing 737-700 - Pax 123/130

Final dest ATL: 68 pax
Domestic cnx in ATL: 42 pax
Intl cnx in ATL: 13 pax

I'll be on the March 19th flight. When your destination is Charlotte it is nice to be able to fly through Atlanta over Houston or Chicago.

[PPAR]

Originally Posted by Acey

I get the feeling most days the domestic cnx vs local pax number has been closer, with cnx ahead, generally. Still nothing like what you see on AA's ORD run where it's like 90% cnx.

May be the time of year. The southeastern US is particularly nice to visit in the Spring.

[outoftheice]

Westjet received their third Dreamliner today... just in time to help with the global groundings of Max-8s. Will be curious to see how they tweak their schedules. I think AC's Hawaii schedule from YYC will be the most affected?

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by outoftheice

Westjet received their third Dreamliner today... just in time to help with the global groundings of Max-8s. Will be curious to see how they tweak their schedules. I think AC's Hawaii schedule from YYC will be the most affected?

Friday's flight is cancelled, but Sunday's looks like its been changed to a 763.

[hollywoodcory]

HU has started to load its winter schedule. PEK-YYC is now loaded until 18FEB20. Showing 2x weekly currently, same as this year.

[TheGreatestX]

Originally Posted by Acey

Mar 12 WS1590 YYC-ATL - Boeing 737-700 - Pax 123/130

Final dest ATL: 68 pax
Domestic cnx in ATL: 42 pax
Intl cnx in ATL: 13 pax

It would be interesting to see how many of those connected in YYC first.

[msmariner]

Drove by Fed ex yesterday and saw a wide body and 3 757’s. Think it’s the first time I’ve seen 3 there at the same time. Wish I could of snapped a pic. Was a cool sight

[Tobuz]

Sartor announced today that the “new” CBSA kiosks are coming to YYC’s international terminal.

The current kiosks were pretty much out of date when the new terminal opened. Most airports in Canada no longer require the paper declaration forms. (YYC’s current kiosks are essentially scanners that read those paper forms.)

Once the new kiosks are installed, no more paper decs requires when arriving at YYC — like pretty much every other airport in Canada now.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/pik-bip-eng.html

No word if they’re upping the number of NEXUS machines here ... bloody frustrating when there are long lines there... unfortunately pretty common.

[Tobuz]

And there’s more ... here’s a CBC report on Sartor’s presentation to the city today:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/yyc-calgary-international-airport-1.5061736


YYC construction will bring short-term delays for long-term gains, CEO says

Change. It's all that seems to happen at YYC.

In recent years, the Calgary International Airport has opened a new runway and cut the ribbon on a new international terminal, doubling the size of the entire facility.

While presenting the airport authority's annual report to city council on Monday, CEO Bob Sartor said the changes will just keep on coming.

For example, this spring construction will get underway on two new interchanges that will ultimately help give drivers quicker access to the terminal.

But in the short term, that construction might make things tricky.

"There's going to be some detours," Sartor told reporters after the meeting.

"Communication with the community will be essential so that people understand ahead of time what to expect when they're coming to the airport."

The city, as well as the federal and provincial governments, are funding the interchange upgrades on Airport Trail at both Barlow Trail and at 19th Street N.E.

Sartor said construction will proceed on both interchanges at the same time.

"When we have all of the equipment and all the crew there, it makes sense for us to try and do it all in one shot. A much shorter time period, a little bit more pain, but a much shorter time period that way," Sartor said.

The interchanges also tie into a couple of other road projects related to airport access.

$153M in road work

The city is extending Airport Trail eastward from 36th Street N.E. to 60th Street N.E. which will allow traffic to connect all the way to Stoney Trail. The city has posted more information online about the planned construction.

In 2020, construction will also begin on a new ramp from southbound Stoney Trail to westbound Airport Trail.

All together, the three projects will cost $153.35 million.

Besides improving access to YYC, the road changes will boost Calgary's goal of becoming more of a logistics hub. Already, Sartor said, 75 per cent of Alberta's air cargo goes through YYC.

The improved road links to key roads like Deerfoot Trail and Stoney Trail are expected to assist goods to get moving quicker.

New shops at airport

More changes are coming inside the airport terminals, too, including a major renovation already underway in the domestic terminal.

Sartor said there have been requests for new and refreshed retail and dining options in the airport, so steps are being taken this year and again next year to deliver on that.

That will mean some temporary and permanent closures of some existing options. But he said 20 new retail offerings will appear this year and another 27 will arrive next year.

This includes getting Tim Hortons in the U.S. and international passenger halls.

The new offerings will fit in with the ongoing renovations at the airport, which will refresh the look of the older halls in the domestic terminal. This will give a "sense of place" for airport users, the CEO said.

YYC is also planning to improve its wayfinding signage throughout the terminal.