Calgary Construction XXVI

[Fatcat loser]

You’re not totally incorrect, but to say Canadians are lazy is an over exaggeration. Remember who built this country to a high enough standard of living such that people don’t have to be forced into looking after their parents.

It’s popular in third world cultures for people to look after their parents, and it’s because they have little choice. In most cases they are actually getting worse care than they would from a seniors care facility in Canada.

Originally Posted by X_ting_on

Biggest crime is not from the housing home. Biggest crime is Canadians are lazy and don’t take care of senior citizen as is the normal obligation those people would have care and there aren’t lawsuits.
The real crime is the culture of seniors citizens are tossed to seniors homes

[Fatcat loser]

What are you mumbling on about? You’re not even making sense.

Originally Posted by suburbia

"Biggest" is always a trickier word to use, but I think X_thing_on is correct to point this out. It is often something blind to many, including those designing urban utopias. The "biggest" crimes may indeed be in the Beltline where the concept of family is holding on by but a thread.

[Tobyoby]

Originally Posted by SteveP

Good riddance. The Beltline is slightly less of a ghetto this morning. Just need to bulldoze the rest of Victoria Park and the neighbourhood won’t seem half bad.

Bulldoze the rest of the neighbourhood and then what? Have a huge open wasteland area for people to stare at? There is nothing to gain from bulldozing Victoria Park. Like honestly, where do these ideas come from???

[Suburgatory]

Originally Posted by SteveP

Good riddance. The Beltline is slightly less of a ghetto this morning. Just need to bulldoze the rest of Victoria Park and the neighbourhood won’t seem half bad.

People like you are the reason this city is a lost cause.

[Bad Grizzly]

Originally Posted by SteveP

Good riddance. The Beltline is slightly less of a ghetto this morning. Just need to bulldoze the rest of Victoria Park and the neighbourhood won’t seem half bad.

Sometimes it seems like that whole area should be annihilated and rebuilt and it’s tempting. We wouldnt want to bulldoze too much, the rest of the city needs a place for homeless, junkies , prostitution and crime. As sad as it is there’s no way around that element. No amount of money can fix it, IMO, leave the Beltline as it is, it keeps the rest of the city nice.

[Northern]

The Beltline might be a little ghetto today, but the house burning down only proves the point of the folks who have saying the Beltline is crap. Think about it. You live in neighborhood where people are lighting fires inside of houses to stay warm! It's not the 1800's FFS. That's says it all.

Those people (all three of them) who have been saying the Bertline is a nice neighborhood must be embarrassed after seeing this. lol.

Originally Posted by topdog

Apparently that ugly old house in Victoria Park burnt down this morning. Someone’s idea of helping to spruce up the Beltline.

Originally Posted by SteveP

Good riddance. The Beltline is slightly less of a ghetto this morning. Just need to bulldoze the rest of Victoria Park and the neighbourhood won’t seem half bad.

[Suburgatory]

I love how often house fires in the suburbs take out three or four others of those vinyl shit boxes with them.

Those people who live in the suburbs must be embarrassed every time that happens. Your insurance must be insane.

Hopefully one day a major fire rages for days and wipes out that entire sprawling suburban wasteland and we can return it to bald prairie. Enjoy being homeless until you catch that Greyhound bus to Winnipeg or Edmonton. Then we’ll throw a huge party.

[Rollerstud98]

Originally Posted by Suburgatory

I love how often house fires in the suburbs take out three or four others of those vinyl shit boxes with them.

Those people who live in the suburbs must be embarrassed every time that happens. Your insurance must be insane.

Hopefully one day a major fire rages for days and wipes out that entire sprawling suburban wasteland and we can return it to bald prairie. Enjoy being homeless until you catch that Greyhound bus to Winnipeg or Edmonton. Then we’ll throw a huge party.

Just wait until they start building these 14+ storey buildings out of wood. We will see some devastating fires then. Houses are built too close together now for sure and like you said mostly with vinyl siding. Should be code to build houses out of flame retardent materials on those walls. Most houses are way better than a condo though.

[Suburgatory]

Originally Posted by Rollerstud98

Just wait until they start building these 14+ storey buildings out of wood. We will see some devastating fires then.

No you won't. They're built with fire suppression systems and assemblies are built to way higher FRR ratings than single family "no protection" homes. Yet you work in the industry. Eek.

Originally Posted by Rollerstud98

Should be code to build houses out of flame retardent materials on those walls. Most houses are way better than a condo though.

It is. Finally.

[Rollerstud98]

I was referring to exterior wall finishes, such as that shitty vinyl siding. Sprinkler systems will help but it is a mechanical system that has chance of failure. Fire proofing is only as good as the poorly paid guy doing it. And then work being done afterwards undoing the fireproofing.

Most fires are started by smokers not putting out cigarettes properly, should be criminal charges brought against smokers when fires are direct result of them.

[Suburgatory]

Originally Posted by Rollerstud98

I was referring to exterior wall finishes, such as that shitty vinyl siding. Sprinkler systems will help but it is a mechanical system that has chance of failure. Fire proofing is only as good as the poorly paid guy doing it. And then work being done afterwards undoing the fireproofing.

Most fires are started by smokers not putting out cigarettes properly, should be criminal charges brought against smokers when fires are direct result of them.

Evidenced by all of those completed four storey wood frame suburban multi-family that are burning to the ground. Shoddy workmanship I tell you.

You can’t mandate higher quality exterior finishes because the people buying suburban homes can’t afford it and even if you did it’s only as good as the poorly paid guy doing it.

[topdog]

Originally Posted by Suburgatory

I love how often house fires in the suburbs take out three or four others of those vinyl shit boxes with them.

Those people who live in the suburbs must be embarrassed every time that happens. Your insurance must be insane.

Hopefully one day a major fire rages for days and wipes out that entire sprawling suburban wasteland and we can return it to bald prairie. Enjoy being homeless until you catch that Greyhound bus to Winnipeg or Edmonton. Then we’ll throw a huge party.

Greyhound doesn't operate buses anymore dude.

[Western Spaghetti]

Originally Posted by topdog

Apparently that ugly old house in Victoria Park burnt down this morning. Someone’s idea of helping to spruce up the Beltline.

It’s about time.

[Western Spaghetti]

People that invest in apartment condos wood or concrete can already watch their dollars go up in smoke.

Originally Posted by Rollerstud98

Just wait until they start building these 14+ storey buildings out of wood. We will see some devastating fires then. Houses are built too close together now for sure and like you said mostly with vinyl siding. Should be code to build houses out of flame retardent materials on those walls. Most houses are way better than a condo though.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Suburgatory

Evidenced by all of those completed four storey wood frame suburban multi-family that are burning to the ground. Shoddy workmanship I tell you.

You can’t mandate higher quality exterior finishes because the people buying suburban homes can’t afford it and even if you did it’s only as good as the poorly paid guy doing it.

The above is just one example, but it is pretty sad that the burning down of a house in the Beltline has, instead of empathy, resulting in such attacks. Personally, irrespective of the fact it seemed to be an abandoned house, I'm quite sad by yet another misplaced cigarette or arson attack in the city, which has destroyed something that I'm sure was valuable to someone. For one thing, reading news accounts, it appears that at least 25 squatters will not have a place to take shelter from the weather. They may have inadvertently caused the fire, in an attempt to keep warm. These are people that were not listed in the census, but we know they exist and they are human.

Discussion about the use of vinyl seems completely random, and while I've not had a home with vinyl on it for almost 20 years now, it doesn't mean it is okay to jump on people for being in a scenario where that is on their house. It is the same with highly dense accommodations, where multiples can be damaged in a single incident (like when 46 were left homeless after that rooming house fire in the Beltline). Number one is empathy.

Message by squatters left inside the Enoch home that just burned down:

REF: https://www.avenuecalgary.com/city-life/inside-the-enoch-sales-house/

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Fatcat loser

Remember who built this country to a high enough standard of living such that people don’t have to be forced into looking after their parents.

That is a sad, sad comment if I've ever read one.

[Bad Grizzly]

The part I find sad is that downtown core area is full to the rafters with drop in centres and homeless shelters and still there are places in the Beltline full of squatters.

Originally Posted by suburbia

The above is just one example, but it is pretty sad that the burning down of a house in the Beltline has, instead of empathy, resulting in such attacks. Personally, irrespective of the fact it seemed to be an abandoned house, I'm quite sad by yet another misplaced cigarette or arson attack in the city, which has destroyed something that I'm sure was valuable to someone. For one thing, reading news accounts, it appears that at least 25 squatters will not have a place to take shelter from the weather. They may have inadvertently caused the fire, in an attempt to keep warm. These are people that were not listed in the census, but we know they exist and they are human.

Discussion about the use of vinyl seems completely random, and while I've not had a home with vinyl on it for almost 20 years now, it doesn't mean it is okay to jump on people for being in a scenario where that is on their house. It is the same with highly dense accommodations, where multiples can be damaged in a single incident (like when 46 were left homeless after that rooming house fire in the Beltline). Number one is empathy.

Message by squatters left inside the Enoch home that just burned down:

REF: https://www.avenuecalgary.com/city-life/inside-the-enoch-sales-house/

[Suburgatory]

Originally Posted by topdog

Greyhound doesn't operate buses anymore dude.

Then I guess you’re stuck.

[Suburgatory]

Originally Posted by suburbia

The above is just one example, but it is pretty sad that the burning down of a house in the Beltline has, instead of empathy, resulting in such attacks. Personally, irrespective of the fact it seemed to be an abandoned house, I'm quite sad by yet another misplaced cigarette or arson attack in the city, which has destroyed something that I'm sure was valuable to someone. For one thing, reading news accounts, it appears that at least 25 squatters will not have a place to take shelter from the weather. They may have inadvertently caused the fire, in an attempt to keep warm. These are people that were not listed in the census, but we know they exist and they are human.

Discussion about the use of vinyl seems completely random, and while I've not had a home with vinyl on it for almost 20 years now, it doesn't mean it is okay to jump on people for being in a scenario where that is on their house. It is the same with highly dense accommodations, where multiples can be damaged in a single incident (like when 46 were left homeless after that rooming house fire in the Beltline). Number one is empathy.

Message by squatters left inside the Enoch home that just burned down:

REF: https://www.avenuecalgary.com/city-life/inside-the-enoch-sales-house/

Nice backhanded comment. You’re such a horrible person.

[Xelebes]

So you know's really bothering me about this whole pissing contest―and it truly is a pissing contest―is the whole charade of standing for downtown and standing for suburbs and the resulting tactics against anyone who has a desire to live in any of the locations. I remember when Littlechilds came here asking about housing options in the Beltline, a truly fantastic question, and people tried to undermine his question by throwing aspersions towards the suggestion that he might want to live in the Beltline. That was a shitty thing to do. I'm looking at you Bad Grizzly.

On the other hand, people who needle those who are looking for new construction in the suburbs. You need to stop too. I don't care if you are trying to sell downtown living. It's counter-productive and it is drowning this thread. And then you want to complain that this is going downhill, take a pause and think that you could actually be discussing new construction. There is a lot of small bits of construction going on, even in these doldrums that you could put your attention to it.

On the toipic of whether Beltline is shitty or not, stop. You've been trolled and now you can stop.