Winnipeg Construction IX

[buzzg]

It's not hard to see Winnipeg's potential as a "city of the future" – we have tons and tons of clean energy, we're still small enough where big change doesn't bring astronomical price tags, and we're at the centre of the continent – perfect for transportation.

Also, the natural air conditioning 8 months of the year is a big boon to data centres.

[wardlow]

I'll just leave this here...

[bomberjet]

^Just a ball of sunshine haha

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by wardlow

I'll just leave this here...

that a discusion we shoulda been havein 25yrs ago or more. time we wake up in this province.

[h0twired]

Originally Posted by wardlow

i'll just leave this here...

tl;dr

[ywgwalk]

Originally Posted by h0twired

tl;dr

Anything that Manitobans think they are special or well positioned for is a lie.

(Just giving the tl;dr, not saying I agree)

[wardlow]

Originally Posted by ywgwalk

Anything that Manitobans think they are special or well positioned for is a lie.

(Just giving the tl;dr, not saying I agree)

Maybe not anything Manitobans think, just the very tired, very old shibboleths, both positive ("we're in the centre of the continent!") and negative ("the Panama Canal destroyed us!"). These two are especially funny because they contradict each other, but anyway.

This isn't negative. As these tweets suggest: "Manitoba has many advantages it doesn't promote, nurture or sell: great research output, great mid-sized family firms that need help (not subsidies) to export... a great agri-food sector that is underrated b/c MB policymakers still don't get that food is cool, and an unlikely finance sector that could be leveraged into something bigger with some imagination & policy fixes... What most of the real assets have in common is that they're about people, not geography, and output that transcends place rather than is limited by it (higher value add, etc.)"

I know it's more fun to dream about stuff like this for another century, but come on.
Roblin City a Baroque City Plan on Hudson Bay (1912) by Wyman Laliberte, on Flickr

[trueviking]

I saw him present that a few years ago. It was really compelling.

[EspionNoir]

His analysis makes me glad that Richardson International is building a new lab in downtown.

Now I'm hoping they have plans for going public. It's the biggest agribusiness in Canada, it's has weight

[EspionNoir]

And it reminds me of an interesting encounter. Once I heard a professor of mine discussing immigration policy and said many of "the original" Manitobans had gone away, to cities like New York and Chicago etc. That makes a lot of sense. Haha a century ago our fine talent was stolen by those cities which later become the biggest players

But in my opinion those who chose to stay really made an impact

[bomberjet]

I loooove seeing old maps (and new maps) and that is awesome! ha. If only we could be so lucky that Churchill would be developed to that extent.

[ywgwalk]

Originally Posted by EspionNoir

His analysis makes me glad that Richardson International is building a new lab in downtown.

Now I'm hoping they have plans for going public. It's the biggest agribusiness in Canada, it's has weight

Almost went public as part of purchasing Agricore United in 2007, but was outbid by the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool. That merger formed the company called Viterra which is now owned by Glencore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricore_United#Takeover

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by EspionNoir

His analysis makes me glad that Richardson International is building a new lab in downtown.

Now I'm hoping they have plans for going public. It's the biggest agribusiness in Canada, it's has weight

Why would you hope that? If they go public then their sentimental and familial attachment to Winnipeg will no longer be a sufficient reason for keeping as many parts of the business in Manitoba as they have tended to do.

[EspionNoir]

I think it depends on how willing Richardson is to reinvest in Winnipeg and keep the central management bere. Since Richardson does agribusiness, Winnipeg is fairly ideal. In addition, even though shareholders will have a fair share of power to influence decision making, they will likely want to see expansion, rather than relocating existing business, and Richardson is already doing successful agribusiness here.

My opnion about the advantage of going public is that Richardson will be able to attract more capital and gain more national or international presence

[ywgwalk]

Originally Posted by EspionNoir

I think it depends on how willing Richardson is to reinvest in Winnipeg and keep the central management bere. Since Richardson does agribusiness, Winnipeg is fairly ideal. In addition, even though shareholders will have a fair share of power to influence decision making, they will likely want to see expansion, rather than relocating existing business, and Richardson is already doing successful agribusiness here.

My opnion about the advantage of going public is that Richardson will be able to attract more capital and gain more national or international presence

Most public agribusinesses have relocated to Calgary from Winnipeg and Regina. If Richardson was public the Innovation Centre would be in Sage Creek not in downtown. I don't think capital is an issue.

[trueviking]

Richardson going public would be Richardson going to Toronto.

They are not going public.

[cheswick]

Richardsons going public would see a slow leakage of investment and workforce to Calgary and Toronto. I suppose the Richardson family could retain controlling interest though.

In 2001 Investors Group merged with Mackenzie Investments out of Toronto. At that time there were probably 20 portfolio managers based in Winnipeg. Today there are none. Everything is done out of Toronto. Jobs like that are never coming back.

[EspionNoir]

I guess no one posted updates on projects as it's too cold today haha.

[headhorse]

updated project map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dBVlRe7opyZXwUITuA00lnSvh6mCuIr2&usp=sharing



if there's anything missing that's (confirmed) proposed or UC, let me know. not including duplex/townhouse/multi family under 10 units

edit: added Hyatt Place? hotel at 138 Portage, don't know the status of it though

[EspionNoir]

Hey should we create tabs for the cities separately on the homepage?