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Old Posted Dec 28, 2018, 3:51 PM
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That’s not how the NHL divides up TV markets. Right now the Habs have all of Quebec as their territory. If the Nordiques were to come back, they would first need to pay the Habs a large fee for taking some of their territory. Then the league would carve out part of Quebec for the Nordiques, and you can be sure that wouldn’t include the populous areas of greater Montreal. They would have a similar issue to Ottawa’s, with a sliver of territory between Kingston and the Quebec border. That model could change with the rise of internet streaming, but for now TV markets are still very important.
I don't think things are that seamless in terms of TV markets. And regional blackouts if any are getting less and less effective.

For example if you live in Ottawa itself it is currently possible with the right cable or satellite package to view every single Montreal Canadiens game of the season.

The virtual shoo-in for ownership of the new Nordiques if it ever happens is Quebecor, which owns TVA Sports and Vidéotron among other media properties. They've got TV on their mind in a big way and I doubt they'd be this interested if they were going to be blacked out of a huge chunk of the province's TV market. I actually doubt they'd even be shut out of Greater Montreal. (The Nordiques weren't back in the day - though admittedly things may have changed since then.)
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I don't think things are that seamless in terms of TV markets. And regional blackouts if any are getting less and less effective.

For example if you live in Ottawa itself it is currently possible with the right cable or satellite package to view every single Montreal Canadiens game of the season.

The virtual shoo-in for ownership of the new Nordiques if it ever happens is Quebecor, which owns TVA Sports and Vidéotron among other media properties. They've got TV on their mind in a big way and I doubt they'd be this interested if they were going to be blacked out of a huge chunk of the province's TV market. I actually doubt they'd even be shut out of Greater Montreal. (The Nordiques weren't back in the day - though admittedly things may have changed since then.)
Montreal and Ottawa already share the same TV market (Quebec and Ontario East of the Gananoque-Pembrooke Line, essentially the TSN5 zone). Between Belleville and Gananoque the market is also shared with the Leafs.
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Montreal and Ottawa already share the same TV market (Quebec and Ontario East of the Gananoque-Pembrooke Line, essentially the TSN5 zone). Between Belleville and Gananoque the market is also shared with the Leafs.
And I fail to see how Montréal and Quebec City would not be in the same TV market as each other given that RDS and TVA Sports have no regional variant channels.
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I'll have to find the same stats for Quebec but I suspect they will be at least the same or more than Winnipeg.
Imagine this from the NHL's POV:

Quebec City is a market that is effectively the same size as Winnipeg and with the same (lower valued) currency but the vast majority of the population doesn't speak the same language as the rest of the league. From a marketing/branding standpoint it's a headache.

The NHL already has the French media market tied down with Montreal (and to a lesser extent, Ottawa) and they don't need another to accomplish that. This doesn't even mention the free agent headaches that a team in Quebec City would have, similar to Winnipeg but on another level entirely.
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Some somewhat interesting commentary on Lebreton and the Arena from Elliott Friedman's 31 thoughts. Most interesting was the now defunct deal may have had the city owning the arena!

28. Twenty years ago, I covered Toronto City Council when the NBA Raptors negotiated to buy Canada Post’s Toronto Delivery Building and turn it into what is now Scotiabank Arena. That was some seriously boring work, and I hoped never to do anything like that again. Now comes more multi-government excitement, Ottawa.

Here’s what we do know: the partnership between John Ruddy and Eugene Melnyk expires Jan. 24. What happens then is anyone’s guess. At some point last fall, Commissioner Bettman reminded the city of the importance of a downtown arena, and the message is understood. The key thing is that the NHL itself doesn’t consider this a dire situation, which means it has options it is choosing to keep to itself. At the October Board of Governors meeting, it was mentioned that a “below-market” offer to buy the team from Melnyk had been rejected. That’s $400 million at most, although some have suggested it was lower.

29. It’s been reported Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson didn’t want this coming up during the municipal election, and it was explained to me that it is expected the federal government will follow the same script with an election due by late-October. That’s going to push things back at least a year.

Some Senators fans brought up Devcore’s announcement saying LeBreton’s federal governing body is “legally obliged” to negotiate with it now that the original winning partnership is over. This is really out of my expertise, but I looked into it anyway. According to a couple of sources, Melnyk has felt for some time this would happen. At one point, he sent a lawyer’s letter to the governing body, indicating that is not the legal mandate and he would take action if it occurred. As far as he’s concerned, the whole process needs to start from the beginning. I don’t know if he’s right or he’s wrong.

30. All of the paperwork is embargoed until the official termination of the agreement. But, when it becomes available, we’re going to find out the downtown arena was going to be owned by the city — through some sort of governing body. The Senators were going to be responsible for 100 per cent of the operating and lifecycle costs during a 25-35 year lease, and would repay their share of the debt financing (50 per cent) over that time.

It sounds like they were going to get a lot of the revenues, but, without seeing the full fine print, it’s hard to say how fair/unfair the deal was for the city, Melnyk or Ruddy. As far as the NHL is concerned, who owns the building isn’t important. Who operates and gets revenues is. Confused? Me too. My father was a builder, and I thought his work was boring, too.

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Looks like there's a last ditch attempt to save the deal, the main parties involved are going to mediation: https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local...n-in-mediation-to-try-to-salvage-project

Not sure why this wasn't done earlier before any lawsuits
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That should have been done the day after the NCC meeting. Or you know, January 2018 when the agreement in principal was signed.

Fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath. Even if they do come to an agreement, will the NCC still want to work with these people?
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looks like there's a last ditch attempt to save the deal, the main parties involved are going to mediation: https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local...n-in-mediation-to-try-to-salvage-project

not sure why this wasn't done earlier before any lawsuits
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RendezVous LeBreton in mediation to try to salvage project

JAMES BAGNALL
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Updated: January 4, 2019


In yet another dramatic twist in the LeBreton Flats legal saga, the main combatants have all agreed to mediation to see if their disputes can be settled before Jan. 19, the date the National Capital Commission threatened to end its relationship with RendezVous LeBreton.

The development was revealed Friday morning as Graham Bird, president of GBA Development and Project Management, filed a statement of defence against the $700-million lawsuit filed in November by Ottawa Senators owners Eugene Melnyk. Bird is a key member of RendezVous LeBreton, along with Trinity Development founder John Ruddy and Melnyk.

LeBreton “is too important to fail, and is worth salvaging,” Bird said in a statement “We are hopeful that the parties can take this opportunity to keep the project moving forward.”
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Updated: RendezVous LeBreton in mediation to try to salvage project

James Bagnall, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 4, 2019


In yet another dramatic twist in the LeBreton Flats legal saga, the main combatants have agreed to mediation to see if their disputes can be settled before Jan. 19, the date set by the National Capital Commission to end its relationship with RendezVous LeBreton.

The development was revealed Friday morning as Graham Bird, president of GBA Development and Project Management, filed a statement of defence against the $700-million lawsuit filed in November by Ottawa Senators owners Eugene Melnyk.

Bird is a key member of RendezVous LeBreton, along with Melnyk and Trinity Development founder John Ruddy. The group had been working towards a June 30 master agreement with the NCC that would have set the stage for an epic, $4-billion transformation of LeBreton Flats.

LeBreton “is too important to fail, and is worth salvaging,” Bird said in a statement. “We are hopeful that the parties can take this opportunity to keep the project moving forward.”

Bird’s company, GBA, had been hired in 2014 by Melnyk’s wholly-owned subsidiary — Capital Sports Management Inc. (CSMI) — to manage the RendezVous LeBreton bid. Mediation efforts will be led by Judge Warren Winkler, a well-known mediator who had been involved in efforts to settle competing claims in Nortel’s bankruptcy proceedings as well as restructurings at Air Canada and Algoma Steel.

Whether Winkler will be able to coax an agreement from the main players in the increasingly bitter LeBreton dispute is an open question.

The litigation to date suggests profoundly deep divisions existed between Melnyk on one hand, and Ruddy and Bird on the other.

Bird’s statement of defence Friday alleges Melnyk fired GBA in early May 2016, only days after RendezVous LeBreton had been selected as the preferred bidder. Bird’s litigation said a CSMI lawyer alleged Bird had breached a non-disclosure agreement while discussing the RendezVous LeBreton project with media. Bird’s litigation maintains that the information he provided did not run afoul of his non-disclosure agreement, and was provided during an open period sanctioned by the NCC.

Ruddy responded to Melnyk’s move by hiring Bird directly.

The various legal claims and counterclaims reveal significant disputes over money and terms throughout the negotiations with the NCC and within the partnership.

The two biggest sticking points to be addressed by Winkler involve a nearby real estate project at 900 Albert St. being developed by Ruddy, and the terms associated with the construction and operating costs of the proposed NHL arena. Indeed, these are in many ways related.

The core of Melnyk’s grievance with Ruddy is his belief that the sale of nearly 1,400 apartments at 900 Albert — along with significant office and retail development — will compromise the underlying economics of LeBreton Flats, which will depend on multiple streams of revenues from a new community of condos, retail shops and offices. Indeed, Melnyk’s statement of claim alleges Ruddy is in a conflict of interest.

Ruddy’s $1-billion counterclaim, filed last month, maintained “there was no conflict of interest. There was no misrepresentation.” In his filing Friday, Bird alleges Melnyk and his executives had been aware of developments at 900 Albert from the beginning and that nothing was kept secret.

“At no time,” the statement of claim reads, “did the Bird Defendants have any information about the proposed design of the 900 Albert Project that was not disclosed to CSMI or the public at large.”

Bird’s litigation deals at length with the question of the NHL arena. Bird claims that “CSMI was aware from the outset” that profits from the LeBreton redevelopment on their own would be insufficient to finance the full $500 million US (C$670 million) cost of the arena.

Accordingly, Bird’s statement of defence adds that CSMI agreed to make a direct financial contribution to the arena and sign on to a 35-year lease on “commercial” terms.

By early October 2018, according to Bird’s litigation, Melnyk was insisting that Trinity absorb or backstop the entire cost of the arena, then lease it to the Ottawa Senators for $1 per year.

Melnyk’s position, outlined in a Dec. 18 statement, is that this would be in exchange for his willingness to forgo his 50 per cent share of LeBreton’s projected profits.

Ruddy declined Melnyk’s suggestion last month in a statement of his own, in part because such an arrangement would mean Trinity would shoulder 100 per cent of the risk for the LeBreton project.

If there is middle ground to be found in this broken relationship, Winkler might find it here — a formula for the sharing of financial risk that satisfies the key partners. Certainly there is plenty at stake for the three most important litigants here, including up to $800 million worth of profits over the next two decades assuming the project unfolds without too many hitches.

The idea of losing a landmark redevelopment is also an important catalyst.

Bird said the idea for mediation emerged during preparations for his defence against Melnyk’s lawsuit, which claims he said he has “refuted” in Friday’s filing.

https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local...n-in-mediation-to-try-to-salvage-project
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This is simply to put a "check" on a checklist or final nail in the coffin on the journey of "we tried" - let's move on!
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Looks like there's a last ditch attempt to save the deal, the main parties involved are going to mediation: https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local...n-in-mediation-to-try-to-salvage-project

Not sure why this wasn't done earlier before any lawsuits
When Melnyk launched the lawsuit I don't think he was expecting the NCC to cancel the whole thing. I think he was just trying to get some leverage by negotiating in public.
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This is simply to put a "check" on a checklist or final nail in the coffin on the journey of "we tried" - let's move on!
I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if they resolved it. I think they were just trying to call each other's bluff.
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Can mediation solve the LeBreton Flats legal dispute?

Elizabeth Payne, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 4, 2019


Does mediation offer magic dust that can get the fractured RendezVous LeBreton development proposal back on the rails? It is not exactly magic, but it could be a formula that works.

With just two weeks until the Jan. 19 deadline set by the National Capital Commission to disintegrate the deal, and a very public legal dispute among partners Eugene Melnyk, John Ruddy and Graham Bird, news came Friday that the parties had agreed to early mediation.

The project is too important to fail and is “worth salvaging,” said Bird in a statement.

The last-ditch mediation effort, aimed at preventing the NCC from terminating its relationship with RendezVous LeBreton as it has said it would do if the partners don’t reach an agreement, is to be led by Ontario’s former chief justice Warren K. Winkler, considered one of the country’s leading mediators.

The fact that the parties have volunteered to enter mediation is itself a good sign, says Ottawa lawyer Lawrence Greenspon, who practises civil litigation as well as criminal law.

The agreement to enter mediation and Bird’s statements about the proposed project, including an arena for the Ottawa Senators, being too important to fail are positive signs that the parties want to find a solution, he said.

The mediation process offers something that might lower the heat on the dispute among Senators owner Eugene Melnyk, Trinity Development founder John Ruddy and Bird of GBA Development and Project Management: privacy.

The process takes place behind closed doors and what happens there remains private, said Greenspon. Typically, parties sign a confidentiality agreement as soon as the mediation begins, before lawyers for each party make their opening statements summarizing their positions to the other side.

During the process, the mediator goes back and forth between parties trying to narrow the gaps between their positions. The mediator does not make a ruling, but acts as a negotiator and guide to bring the sides together.

Greenspon said the fact that mediation is held behind closed doors will likely improve the chances of an agreement being reached, because there will be no need for public posturing or concern about public reaction.

That is especially important in a case that is in such a harsh spotlight because of its location, the involvement of the Senators’ owner and the history of LeBreton Flats.

“By taking it out of the public spotlight, it turns the heat down, especially in the hands of an experienced mediator like Winkler,” said Greenspon. There is no need for parties to fear what the public might think about their private position, he said.

Mediation is increasingly used to settle civil litigation, said lawyer and mediator Peter Bishop. In Ottawa, fewer than five per cent of civil cases go to trial since mediation became mandatory in the late 1990s.

The RendezVous LeBreton mediation is not mandated, but voluntary. Motivation by the participatns is the key to success, said Bishop.

Greenspon said the fact that the parties have agreed and the mediation is voluntary, “is a very good sign. It is a sign they recognize this is an issue that can’t wait.”

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The man behind the LeBreton Flats mediation: Who is Warren Winkler?

Taylor Blewett, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 4, 2019


Warren Winkler has been tasked with what many across the city may have dismissed as a lost cause — mediating the issues between RendezVous LeBreton’s major players, whose behind-the-scenes disputes have been publicly laid bare in a series of legal filings.

Just who is Winkler, and what hope does he have in helping Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk, Trinity Development founder John Ruddy and GBA president Graham Bird resolve their differences before the National Capital Commission’s Jan. 19 deadline, when their contract would dissolve?

According to Arbitration Place, an arbitration centre of which Winkler is a member, he’s known as “Canada’s mediator.”

In his time as a judge, including six years as Chief Justice of Ontario, Winkler presided over such infamous cases as Walkerton’s tainted water tragedy and the Bre-X mining scandal. He judicially mediated major disputes involving Air Canada’s restructuring and Ontario Hydro and Power workers, to name a few.

Locally, he also ruled on a legal effort to stop the redevelopment of Lansdowne Park and mediated Nortel’s bankruptcy fallout.

He hasn’t always been successful, of course: an attempt at mediation between the Ontario government and the province’s doctors in 2014 failed, and in the case of Nortel, Winkler had to conclude after three rounds of mediation that there was no sign of a resolution in sight.

But he has been feted with board appointments, honorary degrees and honours from across the country, including the Order of Canada in 2016.

Discussing life after retiring from the bench, Winkler told the Financial Post in 2014: “I don’t want to sit on the back porch and fall asleep every day. That’s not what I am all about.”

Since that time, Winkler has been a mediator and arbitrator at Arbitration Place, which has locations in Toronto and Ottawa’s World Exchange Plaza. Its roster includes such legal heavy hitters as former Supreme Court chief justice Beverley McLachlin.

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Divorce counselling or poker game? How LeBreton plays.

Kelly Egan, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 4, 2019


And so the grey patient is offered a Hail Mary at bedside, one last face-slap to redden the cheeks and escape the boneyard.

In the soap opera that is LeBreton Flats, maybe it will work: a final-hour attempt at high-level, expert mediation between parties that first sparred, then dug into trenches and lobbed explosive lawsuits, with an NHL dream in peril and a $4-billion plan sliding off the table.

Say this about Friday’s developments — the three parties are, in a way, playing different games.

Eugene Melnyk is engaged in high-stakes poker, John Ruddy and Graham Bird are inviting marriage counselling, trying to salvage the fruits of a messy Melnyk hookup, and the National Capital Commission is standing by — with no cards, only poker-faced — running its “process” and, doubtless, alerting its “fairness monitor.”

Maybe this is just how these big business titans operate: posture, attack, counter-attack and, when all that fails, actually negotiate, but only at the 11th hour, when conditions are made favourable.

So now comes a race against the clock — or is that even true? — to Jan. 19, when the NCC is to officially terminate the agreement with RendezVous LeBreton and put four years of effort on a shelf. (I say “even true” because the NCC made up the rules and can easily change them to allow an extension of this process, a modest rethink or a total reboot.)

There was something quite telling on Page 41 of Graham Bird’s statement of defence against Capital Sports Management Inc. and Melnyk, who, by the way, “fired” Bird in 2016, though it isn’t even clear he had the authority to do so.

It refers to a letter that Melnyk wrote only days ago, after his bombshell lawsuit, the Ruddy countersuit and the NCC’s red-flag waving had the town singing gloomy-tunes about its downtown arena.

“On December 18, 2018, hours after being served with Trinity’s Statement of Defence and Counterclaim, Mr. Melnyk wrote a letter to Mr. Ruddy whereby he offered to settle ‘the impasse’ between the partners. Again, he requested the construction of an arena in downtown Ottawa with free rent for 30 years.”

Impasse? Interesting choice of word for partners who haven’t gotten along for two years, by most accounts don’t particularly like each other and are demonstrating their displeasure with $1.7 billion in claims. Melnyk’s alleged letter does have that “just kidding!” and “let’s get ‘er done” kind of feel, as though his $700-million lawsuit was just a negotiating ploy. We shall see.

There is a keen suspicion as to what is really behind Friday’s news.

Ruddy and Bird are already deeply invested in the LeBreton plan, to the tune of $4 million. Not only was the winning proposal some 2,000 pages, but thousands of hours of prep work have been done, dozens of partners have been brought on-board and a mountain of submissions have gone to city hall for zoning and planning approvals.

(And Ruddy/Bird make the case they’ve been carrying most of the freight, claiming Trinity paid Melnyk’s $530,000 share of municipal application fees.)

Whatever the NCC chooses to do in 2019, they want to be part of it — arena or no arena, Melnyk or no Melnyk. How to ensure that? Show the Crown corporation that, as responsible corporate partners, they tried every damn trick in the book to make the original plan work, even bringing in one of Canada’s top mediators to “smooth over” the cracks.

You might call it a, “See, it wasn’t us!” approach, wrapped in a history of their goodwill. A statement from Bird on Friday hinted as much.

“GBA worked diligently, and in good faith, for over five years to ensure the world’s best would come forth and make the redevelopment of LeBreton Flats a reality, as a truly collaborative partnership,” Bird said. “We believe that dream still lives on in the minds and the will of these partners and that there is a way forward, a collective solution, through our challenges.”

Inasmuch as predictions make fools of us, put yourself in the NCC’s shoes. Its mission, launched in 2014, was not to make an NHL owner happy at any costs to guarantee an arena on 53 empty acres. It was to rebuild a neighbourhood with a couple of big, shiny anchors.

The Melnyk group, by its own admission, doesn’t build things. Bird/Ruddy have on their collective CVs: Lansdowne Park, the new Royal Ottawa, the Ottawa Convention Centre, World Exchange and the Canada Post complex, and lots more. Now they’ve brought in a referee, even doing the NCC’s job.

Which way would you say the wind be blowing?

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LeBreton chaos shows how weak the federal approach to Ottawa projects is

Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 8, 2019


The LeBreton Flats impasse underlines a critical weakness in Ottawa’s municipal and federal political representation. When we have a problem with a federal issue, who sticks up for Ottawa?

The two obvious contenders are Mayor Jim Watson and Environment Minister Catherine McKenna, our senior local cabinet minister, who also happens to represent the LeBreton area. When the National Capital Commission announced in December that it was pulling the plug on the John Ruddy-Eugene Melnyk development plan, Watson said it was unlikely that anything could go ahead this year because of the federal election. McKenna expressed a desire not to rush to make a decision.

OK, there’s some dynamic leadership. Given that more than six decades have passed since the federal government turned LeBreton into an urban wasteland, no one could fairly accuse the feds of being in a rush. The mayor, who often professes to be against dithering and delay, has not stepped up to tell the public what he thinks should happen next, even though he’s a non-voting member of the NCC board.

After their brief comments, the mayor and the minister have snuggled back into their burrows to await developments. Perhaps both of them are working furiously behind the scenes to resolve the LeBreton problem, but if so, they are missing a chance to mobilize the public behind a plan.

This is where we miss former MP and cabinet minister John Baird, who had deep roots in the community and our politics and knew how to make things happen. The problem with McKenna and most of the rest of the local Liberal caucus is that they are political newbies without any history of engagement with municipal issues.

If our politicians do nothing, the future of LeBreton will be left in the hands of the NCC board, an entity without high-profile Ottawa representation. Its voting members include tech guys, a planning professor from B.C., a professional forester, a Toronto lawyer, a local public engagement consultant, a retired public servant from New Brunswick, a former municipal bureaucrat from Nova Scotia, the CEO of a youth travel program, an aboriginal bureaucrat from Quebec, a local environmental planner, a former Prince Edward Island politician and a former francophone educator.

Board members bring a lot of different types of expertise to the table, but not much of it is relevant to stickhandling a huge project such as LeBreton.

Let’s not forget the NCC’s last big fiasco. In 2016, the NCC board was convinced that the new Civic hospital campus would be built at Tunney’s Pasture. It was a heck of an idea, except for access issues and the fact that other buildings will fill the site for the foreseeable future. That’s the kind of decision you get when Ottawa decisions are made by people who don’t know much about Ottawa.

The decision in front of the NCC is really not that difficult. Even if Melnyk and Ruddy somehow get back on the same page, it’s hard to imagine that their partnership won’t fall apart again. We’re lucky because the second contender in the NCC’s last LeBreton process is ready to proceed with an alternative plan that is arguably better than the one the NCC chose. Failure to seize that opportunity in favour of starting all over again would guarantee further years of inaction.

McKenna should take a close look at the alternative plan. Perhaps the project needs to be repackaged to align with her singular focus on climate change. For example, the linear park that is the spine of the plan could be more attractively described as a carbon sink. The planned aquarium could be spun as a refuge for fish escaping from the plastic straws that clog the oceans. Bike paths could be described as carbon-free transportation networks.

Really, whatever it takes to get some action. Ottawans have waited long enough.

Randall Denley is an Ottawa political commentator and novelist. Contact him at [email protected]

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“John Baird knew how to get things done, like the following zero examples....” Also ironic to pull out the “Tunney’s is impossible to access” canard in a discussion of Lebreton developments, when the two sites are accessed by identical—or the very same—routes (Preston = Holland, Booth = Parkdale without the highway ramps, SJAM, Scott-Albert), so is the idea of building a major facility on Lebreton also evidence of not knowing anything about Ottawa?

Shorter Denley here: if people had elected me, I would have solved the problem just by showing up because... just because.
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Baird did get things done. The 100 Day solution for the West LRT was credited as his initiative. He had his hand in a few other projects that were eventually heavily altered by the Liberals, such as the Civic and Victims of Communism Memorial sites. The Liberals dealt with those issues much quicker than Baird, however.

I did not read the article yet, but I'm assuming he is blaming the Liberals for the LeBreton fiasco. That was actually launched on Baird's watch.
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The reason why this whole thing fell apart, IMO, is that the NCC process clearly didn't think about business cases too much. In retrospect, Baird should have insisted the NCC think about that.
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The reason why this whole thing fell apart, IMO, is that the NCC process clearly didn't think about business cases too much. In retrospect, Baird should have insisted the NCC think about that.
I think that’s right. Although it seems that nobody (city, NCC, the applicants, media or either the Liberal or Tory governments) thought about the business case.
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