Gas Prices

[SFUVancouver]

$1.10 in Kamloops today. I'm considering filling up a few Rubbermaid garbage cans and sticking it to the oil companies and the gas companies with their ten-gallon hats, etc. The Gang nailed the plan:

We go to a bank, we talk to a loan officer.
We get a hefty loan to buy a bunch of gasoline.
We take that gasoline, we store it in the basement, we wait a few months.
When the gas prices skyrocket, we sell it, make a huge profit.

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[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by GlassCity

And yes, you can literally just say you're going to get gas.

As well as eggs cheese milk and sizzlelean

[WestCoastEcho]

Originally Posted by MIPS

Even when I lived on the coast, I don't see how you guys do this.
All the border lineups suck. I'd feel like I would have to proactively leave for the border at a quarter tank and write off my afternoon plans just to make the trip worthwhile but then how the heck do you explain you are crossing into Sumas for example just to fill the tank and come right back?

Simple. You just do. The border guards don't care, as long as you are honest about it. They probably have heard that answer probably a dozen times in a single day.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

$1.10 in Kamloops today.

Golden rule in Kamloops is never use the Regular here for prolonged periods. Call it old lore but it seems everyone here who does ends up replacing their fuel pump every few years. It's bargain gas because it's crap gas. I had pinging issues until I went up a grade in 2014.

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by WestCoastEcho

Simple. You just do. The border guards don't care, as long as you are honest about it. They probably have heard that answer probably a dozen times in a single day.

exactly
its not as if its Signapore/Malaysia

[Trainguy]

The BC gouge continues. Everywhere else the price is dropping except GVRD.

$0.87 Can in Bellingham. Overtaxing fuel is old school and needs to be scaled back. Find another way to make revenue.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Trainguy

The BC gouge continues. Everywhere else the price is dropping except GVRD.

$0.87 Can in Bellingham. Overtaxing fuel is old school and needs to be scaled back. Find another way to make revenue.

agree. we pay wayyyyyy too much tax on it. and it should be cheaper even not including the tax; all price gouging.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Trainguy

The BC gouge continues. Everywhere else the price is dropping except GVRD.

$0.87 Can in Bellingham. Overtaxing fuel is old school and needs to be scaled back. Find another way to make revenue.

Best way to stick it to the government and Gas pump owners, in general, is to buy an electric car. There are lots of options and more are coming...

[s211]

Originally Posted by Trainguy

The BC gouge continues. Everywhere else the price is dropping except GVRD.

$0.87 Can in Bellingham. Overtaxing fuel is old school and needs to be scaled back. Find another way to make revenue.

And don't forget the tax on taxes.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Best way to stick it to the government and Gas pump owners, in general, is to buy an electric car. There are lots of options and more are coming...

Electric cars are still very expensive compared to other econoboxes - you have to drive an awful lot in order to justify them financially by recouping the difference in cost between gas vs. electricity and savings on their almost non-existent maintenance requirements. But the driving experience is unsurpassed, IMHO, and with our green electricity there's far less environmental impact.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

and with our green electricity there's far less environmental impact.

well, you know, other than the mining, shipping, and manufacturing of the heavy metal batteries of course.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

well, you know, other than the mining, shipping, and manufacturing of the heavy metal batteries of course.

Life Cycle EV Emissions

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

well, you know, other than the mining, shipping, and manufacturing of the heavy metal batteries of course.

Which heavy metals are those? Nickel, Aluminum, Manganese, Cobalt and Lithium aren't heavy.

[whatnext]

Just saw the pics of the new Honda EV coming (at least to Europe) next year. Hope it makes it here, would be an awesome city car:

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/honda-urban-ev-alive-e-prototype

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

well, you know, other than the mining, shipping, and manufacturing of the heavy metal batteries of course.

Rare earth metal, not heavy. But yes, the battery industry needs some serious regs, yesterday.

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Life Cycle EV Emissions

That's emissions made by the driver. Future's talking about mining and manufacturing the battery.

[dharper]

I drive electric, and in the long run it may be no cheaper. But I feel good not having to give any money to the gas companies, and their yo-yo pricing, designed to gouge as much money out of the consumer.

[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by dharper

I drive electric, and in the long run it may be no cheaper. But I feel good not having to give any money to the gas companies, and their yo-yo pricing, designed to gouge as much money out of the consumer.

This is one of my main reasons for at least getting a Prius hybrid for my next car. The impact of all those individual motors in each car is greater than mining impacts. Mining affects and contaminates a specific area and tends to stay unless there's water runoff. Even the machines used in mining don't come near to the number of cars on the roads worldwide.

When a car burns fuel the release of exhaust fumes has a worldwide impact on the climate. Full stop.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by retro_orange

When a car burns fuel the release of exhaust fumes has a worldwide impact on the climate. Full stop.

The local air quality is also a direct impact of burning fossil fuels to drive.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

That's emissions made by the driver. Future's talking about mining and manufacturing the battery.

Did you read the story?

But what are the global warming emissions of electric cars on a life cycle basis—from the manufacturing of the vehicle’s body and battery to its ultimate disposal and reuse? To answer this, the Union of Concerned Scientists undertook a comprehensive, two-year review of the climate emissions from vehicle production, operation, and disposal. We found that battery electric cars generate half the emissions of the average comparable gasoline car, even when pollution from battery manufacturing is accounted for.

Both types of vehicle begin in much the same way. Raw materials are extracted, refined, transported, and manufactured into various components that are assembled into the car itself. Because electric cars store power in large lithium-ion batteries, which are particularly material- and energy-intensive to produce, their global warming emissions at this early stage usually exceed those of conventional vehicles. Manufacturing a mid-sized EV with an 84-mile range results in about 15 percent more emissions than manufacturing an equivalent gasoline vehicle. For larger, longer-range EVs that travel more than 250 miles per charge, the manufacturing emissions can be as much as 68 percent higher.

These differences change as soon as the cars are driven. EVs are powered by electricity, which is generally a cleaner energy source than gasoline. Battery electric cars make up for their higher manufacturing emissions within eighteen months of driving—shorter range models can offset the extra emissions within 6 months—and continue to outperform gasoline cars until the end of their lives.

[Jalapeño Chips]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Just saw the pics of the new Honda EV coming (at least to Europe) next year. Hope it makes it here, would be an awesome city car:

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/honda-urban-ev-alive-e-prototype

Love it. It'll buy one for sure if it makes it here.

The other day I saw an old 70's Civic Hatch and thinking how cool it looked and that they should bring it back, and electric. This is it.