General Vancouver Updates

[Tetsuo]

I hope they follow the Spot's lead and name it after the historical dining establishment it replaced.


I can see it now

The Den

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Guess I'm one of the few on here that are against the height. Feel taking the tower form out of the core is a mistake and one we seem hellbent on making over and over again. All for more density just don't see the need for more then about half this height. Not going to voice my non-support to the city just going to sit on my hands on this one. Projects like this though do more to hurt the spread of density outside the core then to help. Work with the community and they will be more willing to make it easier for future projects to continue. This is similar to the bike lane situation where it is creating a us versus them attitude instead of getting the majority of people to work together.

It's not even that tall lol. Especially for this area and street a like broadway. I agree with the rest of what you said though

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

i am surprised they are even trying for that height on Broadway, seems unlikely to go through at that height though. i am sure it'll get trimmed down a bit by the time it goes for approvals.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

i am surprised they are even trying for that height on Broadway, seems unlikely to go through at that height though. i am sure it'll get trimmed down a bit by the time it goes for approvals.

I think we'll all be happy so long as it's 20+ floors.

[Feathered Friend]

Marpole Embraces Blueprint for Family Friendly Future – A New Tower Cluster Comes to Marine Drive
8460 Ash Street and 8495 Cambie Street (Ashley-Mar Housing Co-operative)
Before we get started, both Darren and I want to say thank you to our fellow Vancouverites for all the open house notice cards we have received. We thought the best way to express our gratitude is to write up our event recaps with enough time for everyone to voice their opinion. Given that, over the next couple weeks, City Duo will do our best to publish 6 articles per week!

Unfortunately, that hectic pace means we might miss some meetings. For instance, Darren chose to skip the last item, 583 East Broadway, of Wednesday’s UDP meeting. Surprisingly, when I picked him up at City Hall, he seemed a little glad to leave, as one project had just received what is likely to be a fatal blow. He will tell you more about that this Wednesday.

Fortunately, he did not bring that bad luck to this event for a trio of buildings that will replace the Ashley-Mar Co-op. When we walked in, the room was certainly busy, but it was a very warm reception.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/12/02...new-tower-cluster-comes-to-marine-drive/

[Migrant_Coconut]

Nobody's getting displaced, hardly anybody's losing sunlight, and there's no view to block. Should be an easy win.

[dleung]

Remember back when the SFH owners north of Marine drive were up in arms over 1 tower + midrise in their neighbourhood... and now have a skyline, looool

[misher]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I think we'll all be happy so long as it's 20+ floors.

Anyone else find it weird that across the bridge we can build 40+ floors with barely a blink but got to fight for 20+ on Broadway beside a skytrain station?

City needs to lay down the law and develop Broadway instead of being chicken.

Honestly Broadway should be like metrotown in some areas. Is it wrong to expect giant towers beside the centre of Vancouver aka city hall?

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by misher

Anyone else find it weird that across the bridge we can build 40+ floors with barely a blink but got to fight for 20+ on Broadway beside a skytrain station?

City needs to lay down the law and develop Broadway instead of being chicken.

Honestly Broadway should be like metrotown in some areas. Is it wrong to expect giant towers beside the centre of Vancouver aka city hall?

no viewcones on Marine, there are viewcones and hospital flight oath on Broadway.

[misher]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

no viewcones on Marine, there are viewcones and hospital flight oath on Broadway.

Much of Broadway isn't. The area around Burrard and Granville in particular. Even for the viewcones down Burrard and Granville only a few lots are affected and with proper setbacks they can be maintained while looking awesome like that development on 7th and Granville.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by misher

Anyone else find it weird that across the bridge we can build 40+ floors with barely a blink but got to fight for 20+ on Broadway beside a skytrain station?

City needs to lay down the law and develop Broadway instead of being chicken.

Honestly Broadway should be like metrotown in some areas. Is it wrong to expect giant towers beside the centre of Vancouver aka city hall?

Technically, they can't - as seen in the image above, there's viewcones from the seawall to City Hall that limit 'rises to ten storeys or less. There's many more NIMBYs on this side of the hill because of the views... and Vancouver just elected eight of them.

[Feathered Friend]

Sculptural Balconies Guide East Vancouver’s Tallest Tower to a Quick Approval at the UDP
5055 Joyce Street
Normally, Hannah and I like to recap a project’s open house before we cover its Urban Design Panel review. However, with the recent schedule of events, we have developed a considerable backlog, enough to fill every weekday this month. Given that, we agreed we should cover this proposal’s UDP meeting first.

Fortunately, this was a pretty straight forward meeting, which was mostly due to the applicant team’s lead presenter. It’s not that they had the panel wrapped around their finger, but their presentation was so thoughtful and well done, it left little room to doubt the team’s vision.

Though there has been some changes, as the original plan was for a passive house design. Now only the envelope will reach that standard, as the proposal will pursue Option B of the Green Buildings Policy instead.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/12/04...st-tower-to-a-quick-approval-at-the-udp/

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Technically, they can't - as seen in the image above, there's viewcones from the seawall to City Hall that limit 'rises to ten storeys or less. There's many more NIMBYs on this side of the hill because of the views... and Vancouver just elected eight of them.

Says a lot about how Vancouverites choose those who represent us, doesn't it?

Again they should remove some of these viewcones because 10 stories would've blocked the views of the mountains for most along the West Broadway corridor anyway. 30 stories more isn't going to make any difference when it comes to mountain views. If they really want views, the city should make some of these developers build sky-patios for the public to view as much of the north shore mountains as they want.....for free. That would shut them up.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/12/02...new-tower-cluster-comes-to-marine-drive/

Thanks FF.
Looks like there will be retail fronting Cambie Street for this project?

[Feathered Friend]

May 31st, 2018 Version

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/08/28...l-housing-on-grant-street-into-question/

November 16th, 2018 Version

UDP Recommends Elimination of 38 Rental Homes – 6 Floors are Too Many for a “Nice Neighbourhood”
1535-1557 Grant Street

The Story so Far
This project has been through a lot. Its block has been zoned for multifamily low-rise buildings for decades, yet is still comprised of only single family homes. The first version of this proposal, a 4 story strata building, hoped to change that, but community opposition led the applicant to reduce the scope to only 4 townhomes.

The Applicant’s Plea
The applicant seemed contrite as they explained the changes. To make the east and west facades more sensitive to the neighbours, windows were introduced to those formerly blank walls. In places they aligned with their neighbours windows, they would be frosted over, and a living landscape would be added to green the area.

The Verdict
In response, every single panellist praised the changes, and agreed that all of their previous recommendations had been satisfied. The chair acknowledged many were struggling with the massing, but many others were quite satisfied. There were no recommendations, and, with that, the panel failed the project.

More in depth coverage at :
https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/12/05...s-are-too-many-for-a-nice-neighbourhood/

and maybe later on one of the local news stations too

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by misher

Anyone else find it weird that across the bridge we can build 40+ floors with barely a blink but got to fight for 20+ on Broadway beside a skytrain station?

City needs to lay down the law and develop Broadway instead of being chicken.

Honestly Broadway should be like metrotown in some areas. Is it wrong to expect giant towers beside the centre of Vancouver aka city hall?

I find it strange that the New St. Paul's Hospital is maxing out its view cones at 13 stories, which is why it's that tall.

13. What view are they trying to protect? Is there even anything to see other than Vancouver itself from East Hastings?

[GenWhy?]

It's actually a stunning view and it's of the mountains looking north.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/12/04...st-tower-to-a-quick-approval-at-the-udp/

This will be a great addition to the area. Thanks for the information!

[dleung]

love the tower, hate the podium. What's the point of having a podium if they're just going to Ctrl-V/Ctrl-C the tower treatment onto it as if the change in scale/massing/relationship to the street and other buildings mean nothing.

[SpongeG]

someone needs to get down to venables & raymur in Strathcona and take some pics of that big building going up, I think it's a seniors place, near the gelato place. It's so tall, completely unexpected when coming in from east van.