Oakridge Park | 13 Towers | 154m | 52fl | 5M sqft | U/C

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

To be fair, people probably said the same thing about Metrotown thirty years ago:


https://buzzer.translink.ca/2011/01/skyt...princess-diana-visits-skytrain-and-more/

...Woah.

[VanCityTowers]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

Nov.24 '18, my pics

Can someone please tell me what is happening with these brick building?

Are they staying the same?
Full reno?
Tear down?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by VanCityTowers

Can someone please tell me what is happening with these brick building?

Are they staying the same?
Full reno?
Tear down?

See the outline of the brick buildings in the model? They're staying because they're heritage. The new construction will be built around it.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

They're staying because they're heritage. The new construction will be built around it.

Are you sure? I don't believe they're heritage; I think the terraced building is staying because it's a 1980s strata, and there weren't enough owners interested in selling to include it in the project. The office building is the same age, but is owned by the mall, so that's not the reason they're keeping it. There's apparently no need to replace it; the earlier plans said it will be renovated, and linked to the new office podium of the tower that will be built behind it.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

From Daily Hive:

I remember reading somewhere a while ago that the most successful transit stations were the ones with the most prosaic designs. IE they fit into surrounding structures so no land was wasted. This Westbankism is the antithesis of that. An overbearing and totally unnecessary bagatelle. I suppose it's useful if you're a complete idiot and can't find a train station unless there's a huge arch over it.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I remember reading somewhere a while ago that the most successful transit stations were the ones with the most prosaic designs. IE they fit into surrounding structures so no land was wasted. This Westbankism is the antithesis of that. An overbearing and totally unnecessary bagatelle. I suppose it's useful if you're a complete idiot and can't find a train station unless there's a huge arch over it.

If fits with the rest of the complex; it looks like part of a futuristic fever-dream.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

See the outline of the brick buildings in the model? They're staying because they're heritage. The new construction will be built around it.

No such thing as heritage. If these buildings were to be downtown they would be torn down in a heartbeat when the land is upzoned. They are only prized here because everything else around is tiny by comparison. See, it's all relative.

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by Vin

No such thing as heritage. If these buildings were to be downtown they would be torn down in a heartbeat when the land is upzoned. They are only prized here because everything else around is tiny by comparison. See, it's all relative.

They're not heritage because they're from the 1980s.

They aren't getting torn down because the owners didn't want to sell.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Jebby

They're not heritage because they're from the 1980s.

They aren't getting torn down because the owners didn't want to sell.

Bingo.

Of course Vin ignores that this was pointed out by Changing City just three posts before so he can post some misinformed nonsense backing up one of his personal pet issues... again.

The simple truth is these buildings are not owned/controlled by Quadreal or else they would have been part of the redevelopment.

[officedweller]

Didn't some of the "concept" drawings have the office building wrapped in glass?

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Jebby

They're not heritage because they're from the 1980s.

They aren't getting torn down because the owners didn't want to sell.

What about the office block? I thought Oakridge owns that?

I never said they are heritage: someone else said it.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Bingo.

Of course Vin ignores that this was pointed out by Changing City just three posts before so he can post some misinformed nonsense backing up one of his personal pet issues... again.

The simple truth is these buildings are not owned/controlled by Quadreal or else they would have been part of the redevelopment.

LeftCoaster your personal vendetta and bias against me is getting more apparent by the day. . Get a life ok?

So are you saying the office block does not belong to Oakridge mall and Quadreal??!

https://www.oakridgecentre.com/office-directory/

Originally Posted by Changing City

Are you sure? I don't believe they're heritage; I think the terraced building is staying because it's a 1980s strata, and there weren't enough owners interested in selling to include it in the project. The office building is the same age, but is owned by the mall, so that's not the reason they're keeping it. There's apparently no need to replace it; the earlier plans said it will be renovated, and linked to the new office podium of the tower that will be built behind it.

[Aroundtheworld]

I know this is outside of the Oakridge property, but I hope they add another entrance on the other side of Cambie as the area develops. It's weird that the only access to northbound trains is a tunnel that goes under the tracks.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Vin

No such thing as heritage. If these buildings were to be downtown they would be torn down in a heartbeat when the land is upzoned. They are only prized here because everything else around is tiny by comparison. See, it's all relative.

Just like how 155 Water Street and the Canada Post are being torn down? It all comes down to aesthetics and lot size - building over and/or around works just fine too.

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

I know this is outside of the Oakridge property, but I hope they add another entrance on the other side of Cambie as the area develops. It's weird that the only access to northbound trains is a tunnel that goes under the tracks.

Langara's got one too. I'm guessing it was one of the cost-cutting measures: keep the rail trench shallow, and just run the mezzanine under it.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I'm guessing it was one of the cost-cutting measures: keep the rail trench shallow, and just run the mezzanine under it.

Yup.

Ideally, they would have had mezzanines like Broadway City Hall Station.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Vin

LeftCoaster your personal vendetta and bias against me is getting more apparent by the day. . Get a life ok?

So are you saying the office block does not belong to Oakridge mall and Quadreal??!

https://www.oakridgecentre.com/office-directory/

I said the building is not controlled by Quadreal, which is isn't

5733 Cambie is subdivided into 32 separate primary lots under VAS1499.
https://bccondos.net/5733-cambie-st

If you bothered to do even 2 minutes of research before engaging in more uninformed complaining you would have realized this.

But of course you didn't.

But hey thanks for posting a building directory... what a fabulously conclusive document.

And no I don't have a vendetta against you, I don't even know you. I have a vendetta against misinformation, which you seem to post like the world is about to end.

As long as you keep attempting to misinform, ignore facts, and distort reality to push your preconceived conclusions I will be here to correct you. You can be sure of that.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Didn't some of the "concept" drawings have the office building wrapped in glass?

They could still do that even though it was not shown in the rezoning or the DP for the first phase. It would be another DP, but it could easily form part of one of the next phases or as a stand alone.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I said the building is not controlled by Quadreal, which is isn't

5733 Cambie is subdivided into 32 separate primary lots under VAS1499.
https://bccondos.net/5733-cambie-st

Nice try in deflecting, but I wasn't referring to the strata condo building. When I said such buildings would be demolished in downtown Vancouver, I was referring to the office block which many in the downtown are, especially along Alberni Street. Isn't that true? How is that distorting reality?

So let's try this again: Doesn't the office block belong to the mall and hence under Quadreal?

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

As long as you keep attempting to misinform, ignore facts, and distort reality to push your preconceived conclusions I will be here to correct you. You can be sure of that.

Keep repeating the same thing by you doesn't make that true, as time and again you can't even say how I misinform, distort reality or push my "preconceived conclusions".

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Just like how 155 Water Street and the Canada Post are being torn down? It all comes down to aesthetics and lot size - building over and/or around works just fine too.

155 Water Street can't be replaced with a tall tower.

And yes, the little office building on top of the Canada Post building will be torn down, and the podium gutted. But then again this is mostly a warehouse and not a typical office building like that at Oakridge, or those to be torn down at Alberni Street.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Vin

155 Water Street can't be replaced with a tall tower.

And yes, the little office building on top of the Canada Post building will be torn down, and the podium gutted. But then again this is mostly a warehouse and not a typical office building like that at Oakridge, or those to be torn down at Alberni Street.

And yet the buildings as we know them are being retained. All across the city, developers have the option to completely remove the old structure, but instead they opt to keep some of it as part of the new one.

On the other hand, architects took a quick look at Alberni, decided that there was nothing of value, and opted to scrap it all.