YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 684

nname · #**13661** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 7:24 AM**

YYZ-BOM (4x weekly) was removed from the schedule as of... a couple of hours ago. Does this solve the MEL puzzle?
Although I don't know how would AC rotate plane between YVR-MEL and YYZ-DXB though...

SpongeG · #**13662** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 7:55 AM**

I looked up some flights on WOW, just to iceland is cheap with the WOW basic fare, but that fare gets you nothing, just a ticket and a personal item.
There were 3 upgrade options. The highest fare was $419 one way to iceland included, 2 checked bags, 1 personal item and 1 carry on ad meal. the second option WOW plus was $355 and WOW comfy is $2 more for $357. About the same for the return flight.

It's not set up yet to find flights to other places yet so its not possible to calculate a trip.

SpongeG · #**13663** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 7:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

I just booked trip to LAS onboard Air Canada Rouge. My first time onboard them, but it cannot be that bad for a 2-hour trip? I was even considering Allegiant Air from Bellingham, but I just couldn't get myself to justify the hassle for maybe saving a few bucks.

I flew Allegiant once to California. If you don't pay for the extras its a pain. Lucky we did, such as priority boarding cause it meant we got a place for our carry on. People in general boarding were getting on and having no room for their bags, people had to put their stuff rows away from their seats. They even put luggage in a cupboard. I wouldn't fly them again to save a few bucks.

Johnny Aussie · #**13664** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 9:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

YYZ-BOM (4x weekly) was removed from the schedule as of... a couple of hours ago. Does this solve the MEL puzzle?
Although I don't know how would AC rotate plane between YVR-MEL and YYZ-DXB though...

Do you have notifications on for schedule changes?

The mystery continues to the complete summer 2019 AC schedule.... all is revealing soon.

thenoflyzone · #**13665** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 11:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

I looked up some flights on WOW, just to iceland is cheap with the WOW basic fare, but that fare gets you nothing, just a ticket and a personal item.
There were 3 upgrade options. The highest fare was $419 one way to iceland included, 2 checked bags, 1 personal item and 1 carry on ad meal. the second option WOW plus was $355 and WOW comfy is $2 more for $357. About the same for the return flight.

It's not set up yet to find flights to other places yet so its not possible to calculate a trip.

I personally wouldn't book them at this point. All signs point to a Primera 2.0

thenoflyzone · #**13666** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 11:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Wow!

Didn’t see that coming.

really?

I didn't see BA starting Charleston. This, I saw coming. (financial troubles aside)

The minute they launched DEL, YVR was a given. I've probably even said so on this forum last year.....

Let's not kid ourselves, WOW needs to fill their DEL flight. YVR will help them do that. In all the news articles about the launch, the first airport WOW mentions after KEF is DEL.

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Wow Air says Reykjavik will also serve as a stopover for Canadian passengers en route to and from New Delhi, Tel Aviv and various European cities.

AC going daily year round to DEL is proof that the market is mature enough for summer service as well.

nname · #**13667** Posted **Oct 23, 2018, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Do you have notifications on for schedule changes?

The mystery continues to the complete summer 2019 AC schedule.... all is revealing soon.

AC is pretty predictable for the publish time for the schedule updates.

Generally starts 12am Eastern time on Tuesday and Wednesday, and usually finished before 4am

thenoflyzone · #**13668** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 1:00 AM**

SQ might be launching SEA next year, apparently.

Now that is a surprise. I would have thought YVR would get service before SEA.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/t...nVvQTkuu9_H9icPJ0hrg0#Echobox=1540337727

trofirhen · #**13669** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 1:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

SQ might be launching SEA next year, apparently.

Now that is a surprise. I would have thought YVR would get service before SEA.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/t...nVvQTkuu9_H9icPJ0hrg0#Echobox=1540337727

Wow Seattle sure beat us out big-time on that one. I wonder if AC will start YVR-SIN? Everybody says they don't have the metal for it, and / or the market isn't there.

twoNeurons · #**13670** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 5:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

SQ might be launching SEA next year, apparently.

Now that is a surprise. I would have thought YVR would get service before SEA.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/t...nVvQTkuu9_H9icPJ0hrg0#Echobox=1540337727

Seattle has quite a few high value software engineers travelling between Asia and [enter one of many large Seattle software companies here].

Klazu · #**13671** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 5:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

I flew Allegiant once to California. [...] I wouldn't fly them again to save a few bucks.

Hehe, that's the conclusion I landed in after thinking more about it. I can be cheap, but not that cheap to fly Allegiant from Bellingham and then stay in a 5-start hotel.

Is WOW's KEF-DEL perhaps the world's northernmost polar route? It must fly pretty much over the north pole!

Johnny Aussie · #**13672** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 8:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

AC is pretty predictable for the publish time for the schedule updates.

Generally starts 12am Eastern time on Tuesday and Wednesday, and usually finished before 4am

Thanks for that. I don’t watch this as closely as you do but it makes sense.

It seems like one problem gets solved then another kink in the chain happens.

I’m surprised that AC is dropping YYZ-BOM to seasonal but it does appear this has happened.

I guess we will have to wait just a little longer to see what happens with that DUB route and the downtime with the MEL route!

nname · #**13673** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 8:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Thanks for that. I don’t watch this as closely as you do but it makes sense.

I only need to press a button each night, and my script will do everything else

I hate how AC is now only making one change every time they update the schedule though.. It's been a week and they still haven't clean up the double ALG flight

thenoflyzone · #**13674** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Is WOW's KEF-DEL perhaps the world's northernmost polar route? It must fly pretty much over the north pole!

Not at all.

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=kef-del,+kef-nop-del&MS=wls&MR=540&MX=720x360&PM=*

Great circle route passes over Scandinavia and Russia, nowhere near the north pole.

As WW doesn't have Russian overflight rights, the route will need to avoid Russian airspace, hence the second route on the map, which represents more or less the actual routing of the flight. It represents a 10% increase in total distance flown. Not a big deal, but again, very far from the north pole.

Based on a great circle route, of all the cross polar flights out of Canada, YUL-PEK passes the closest to the north pole. Granted, airlines dont fly GC routes, but nonetheless....

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=yul-pvg%2C+...z-tpe%2C+yyz-hkg%2C+yvr-hkg&MS=wls&DU=mi

vanlaw · #**13675** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 3:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Hehe, that's the conclusion I landed in after thinking more about it. I can be cheap, but not that cheap to fly Allegiant from Bellingham and then stay in a 5-start hotel.

Is WOW's KEF-DEL perhaps the world's northernmost polar route? It must fly pretty much over the north pole!

I recall reading somewhere a few years back that EK's DXB-SEA route comes closest to the north pole.

nname · #**13676** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by vanlaw

I recall reading somewhere a few years back that EK's DXB-SEA route comes closest to the north pole.

Doesn't really matter. Plane aren't allow to fly north of 89N anyways, so they all have to go around it...

thenoflyzone · #**13677** Posted **Oct 24, 2018, 8:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Doesn't really matter. Plane aren't allow to fly north of 89N anyways, so they all have to go around it...

89N is 69 miles from the north pole. Close enough wouldn't you say.........

SpongeG · #**13678** Posted **Oct 26, 2018, 5:32 AM**

Seattleites: Save big bucks by flying overseas out of Vancouver, B.C.
Originally published October 18, 2018

If you’re traveling internationally, you may find a cheaper ticket out of Vancouver, B.C., than Seattle. Here’s how to maximize your return on investment — and where to kill time while you wait for your flight.

By Carol Pucci
Special to The Seattle Times

“Where are you going?” the Canadian immigration officer asked me as we stepped off the Amtrak train at Vancouver, B.C.’s, Pacific Central Station.

When I told him we were headed to the airport, he flashed a knowing smile. “How much are you saving?”

Obviously we weren’t the first to figure out we could take advantage of lower international airfares by flying out of Vancouver instead of Seattle.

“About $250 per ticket,” I said, telling him of our plans to fly to Lima, Peru, via Mexico City on Aeromexico.

It was the third time in the past few years that my husband and I have made the trip 140 miles north to Vancouver by train or bus to snag lower fares on overseas flights.

The savings this time was not as much as the $600 per ticket we netted a few years ago by flying Delta from Vancouver to Rome via Amsterdam and back from Berlin, but it was enough to justify the train fare ($75 for two) and four-hour ride.

Why are international fares often lower out of Vancouver?

“Differences in supply and demand for individual cities” are likely one reason, says Scott Mackenzie, editor of Seattle’s Travel Codex, a website that offers advice on airline pricing and award travel. “There may be more demand to fly in/out of Seattle due to Seattle’s comparatively larger economy and (presumably) wealthy businesses and residents who can afford to pay more for travel.”

He notes also that Vancouver has a larger international airport with more airlines competing for the same routes, and relatively relaxed customs procedures which make international connections easier. “If some passengers are already flying from Europe to Asia and stopping in Canada, then there is lots of supply for Americans (and Canadians) to take advantage of for at least half the journey,” he says.

...

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/travel...ers-cheat-code-fly-out-of-vancouver-b-c/

Johnny Aussie · #**13679** Posted **Oct 26, 2018, 9:14 PM**

Maybe that will stop the flood of people crossing the border to fly out of SEA or BLI.

Be nice if the opposite happened for a change.

casper · #**13680** Posted **Oct 26, 2018, 10:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Maybe that will stop the flood of people crossing the border to fly out of SEA or BLI.

Be nice if the opposite happened for a change.

For quite some time it is has been the case it is cheaper to fly domestically in the US out of Seattle and cheaper to fly domestically in Canada or international out of Vancouver.

Always amazed how the long-term parking lot at YVR has a lot of cars with Washington state plates. Even some California plates. My guess would be at least 1 in 5.