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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 6:07 PM
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Grasping at straws comparing a setbacked building with a box of opened cigarettes.
He's probably referencing Fazlur Khan finding inspiration for the bundled tube system in Sear's(now Willis) Tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 6:11 PM
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He's probably referencing Fazlur Khan finding inspiration for the bundled tube system in Sear's(now Willis) Tower.
Exactly. Famous story in Chicago architecture schools.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 8:36 PM
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Exactly. Famous story in Chicago architecture schools.
Also a famous story if you've seen the Sears Tower Skydeck video any time in the past 20 years or so.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 8:51 PM
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 8:54 PM
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Grasping at straws comparing a setbacked building with a box of opened cigarettes.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 9:35 PM
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Exactly. Famous story in Chicago architecture schools.
FTFY, this is basic information you should know if you have studied the history of highrise design. It's not like someone is saying "did you know the first use of the structural tube design used in the WTC was at DeWitt Chestnut Apartments?", no this is literally about one of the most radical skyscraper designs in the last 100 years of architecture that was the tallest building in the world for decades and basically set the standard for the megatalls you see springing up all over the world today. I mean Sears, Hancock, and Aon basically show the evolution from "skycrapers" like ESB to the ridiculously tall structures we see today. WTC was basically the only other building built on this scale during that time and is unfortunately no longer with us. So if you want to understand how we got to where we are at today, you need to know that history. Hancock basically picked up where ESB left off before the depression and war and you can see a rapid evolution from that to Aon and WTC mega tubes then to the advanced multi system designs you see today. Think of it this way, Sears is basically the "core and outrigger" design everyone uses today, but the core is made of solid steel instead of concrete. There's a huge jump between that and the giant tubes like Hancock, Aon, and WTC. The cigarette analogy cuts to the very heart of that jump in reasoning that you can only go so high with a single giant tube, ultimately you need to create a honeycomb of structural systems in order to make that jump to the heights Sears and everyone since are at.


Here's a great set of slides on this history that I stumbled across:

https://www.slideshare.net/GulzarHai...0011phpapp01-1


Coolest thing about this building is how it is basically a tribute to how the Sears design set the bar for everything since. It's the same concept visually, just using the core and outrigger precast design that has evolved from the Sear's bundled tube concept. That the concrete frame is left exposed is a perfect tribute to the structural expressionism of Sears and Hancock. This building shows off it's outriggers and frame just as much as Hancock or Sears.

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Old Posted Oct 12, 2018, 3:39 AM
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Did anyone see the revised design for Hudson Tower in Detroit? Site prep has been underway with construction expected to start soon. What was previously a tall box has been redesigned and appears to be very NEMA Chicago in its look. It'll be about the same height, too, if a little taller. Designs are from Shop Architects. Maybe they should throw Vinoly an honorarium or something.

https://crain-platform-cdb-prod.s3.a...0plan-03_i.jpg
Very very OCS. This thing will dominate the Detroit skyline in a way that NEMA and OCS can't in Chicago for obvious reasons(despite both being taller)

Very happy for Detroit. Good sign for the cycle in my eyes. If Detroit can build something like this right now, then maybe we can get a couple more big buildings proposed and built before a cool off!
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2018, 3:43 AM
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FTFY, this is basic information you should know if you have studied the history of highrise design.
Pretty sure that the exhibits while you're waiting to go to the observation deck have this information too. Although maybe not everyone pays attention to that.
     
     
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Grasping at straws comparing a setbacked building with a box of opened cigarettes.
Willis Tower: Cigarettes As Inspiration
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2018, 10:41 PM
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Despite the awful image quality, the tower looks great from the air. It is really making its mark on the skyline.

     
     
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2018, 11:17 PM
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The first photo above from Nick shows how well it fills in this part of the skyline view along with Essex and the other building U/C on Michigan Ave. Really nice filling in there. By my count, they're around the 70 floor mark meaning there's about 10 more floors to go before this is topped out.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 3:16 AM
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I think I count 9 new high rises in that photo there, Solar (depending on one's definition of new of course). Tremendous, and the cycle isn't over yet! What a dramatic transformation the South Loop has made since 2005 (making that number way higher if those dating back to that year count as new too)
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 12:50 PM
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 4:02 PM
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Glad the got rid of that crown but this looks less dynamic and soaring than the original, and the homage to Sears doesn't quite fit anymore.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 8:44 PM
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Glad the got rid of that crown but this looks less dynamic and soaring than the original, and the homage to Sears doesn't quite fit anymore.
Not sure what you are meaning here... This is an older rendering from Jan 2017 - I think its just a funny angle

     
     
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 9:01 PM
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Looks like they are doing lighting all the way up the front. Not sure what I think about that.
     
     
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