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left of center · #**1681** Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 4:51 AM**

^ There are plans for a slightly taller building to the west of OGP/NEMA, on the corner of Michigan and Roosevelt. However, I'd say its unlikely that it will be as depicted in the rendering. Unlikely that it will be designed by Vinoly either. My understanding is to expect a different building entirely, and one that won't begin construction until the next real estate cycle, after OGP/NEMA is completed and leased out.

Zapatan · #**1682** Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by left of center

^ There are plans for a slightly taller building to the west of OGP/NEMA, on the corner of Michigan and Roosevelt. However, I'd say its unlikely that it will be as depicted in the rendering. Unlikely that it will be designed by Vinoly either. My understanding is to expect a different building entirely, and one that won't begin construction until the next real estate cycle, after OGP/NEMA is completed and leased out.

Ah okay, that's good news still.

It makes sense, it's a great spot for condos overlooking the park

maru2501 · #**1683** Posted **Oct 8, 2018, 7:30 PM**

about as tall as OMP right now

Knightwing · #**1684** Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 2:47 PM**

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Has the height on this tower changed? It appears from the rendering that there should be approximately 8-9 floors after the last setback before the tall floor.

Based on the image below, there are only 4 floors between the last setback until the tall floor.

Anyone have an idea as to what's going on?

I think we can all now agree that this version of NEMA is shorter than the original version...

Zapatan · #**1685** Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 3:41 PM**

It could be a design change?

I hope it hasn't been shortened. Although the original looked quite a bit over 900' so maybe it will still end up ~890'.

rlw777 · #**1686** Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knightwing

I think we can all now agree that this version of NEMA is shorter than the original version...

Nah. All we know is that what's being built is slightly different from the rendering.
That's not the only change either. Did you notice that the east face of the building to the first setback is 23 floors in the rendering and 25 in reality?

Notyrview · #**1687** Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 4:50 PM**

Yeah it's just a rendering, not a schematic, so we really don't know anything.

left of center · #**1688** Posted **Oct 9, 2018, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knightwing

I think we can all now agree that this version of NEMA is shorter than the original version...

Or that the amenity floor was built several floors lower than what was shown in the rendering?

Why would the developer not built to the density they were zoned for? That would be akin to leaving money on the table.

BonoboZill4 · #**1689** Posted **Oct 10, 2018, 2:43 AM**

Until this thing is topped off and not at 893 feet, I'm still expecting it to be 893 feet tall. I wouldn't put too much worry into a difference in rendering and reality. After all, just south west with Paragon, we had something exactly like that happen, but the height is the same.

LouisVanDerWright · #**1690** Posted **Oct 10, 2018, 4:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by maru2501

about as tall as OMP right now

This.

The design isn't going to built exactly as rendered guys, that's not how this works. The building is currently just beyond the double setback (the only place where two tubes end simultaneously at the NE corner) and that setback is about at the top of OMP just as it is in the rendering. They obviously have just been tweaking the exact details of the design when they, you know, actually drew up the blueprints.

jc5680 · #**1691** Posted **Oct 10, 2018, 5:58 PM**

^^ to add to your point, clearly there have been changes in details since early renderings, but that is to be expected. The model shown in a 1000M instagram looks like a spitting image of what is being built, and I don't see any sort of material height difference.

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From 1000M's official Instagram page

XIII · #**1692** Posted **Oct 10, 2018, 9:45 PM**

This is what's there right now. Looks like the setback is aligned with the OMP roof.
(This is a little off-center. I was trying to shoot around the rain on the window)

Knightwing · #**1693** Posted **Oct 10, 2018, 11:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by XIII

This is what's there right now. Looks like the setback is aligned with the OMP roof.
(This is a little off-center. I was trying to shoot around the rain on the window)

That's sort of my point. In the original rendering, the first setback was clearly above OMP.

But as the consensus seems to be that final judgment should be reserved until this thing is topped off, I'll keep quiet.

Bonsai Tree · #**1694** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 12:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Knightwing

That's sort of my point. In the original rendering, the first setback was clearly above OMP.

But as the consensus seems to be that final judgment should be reserved until this thing is topped off, I'll keep quiet.

Renderings are not fact people! This isn't the only Chicago skyscraper that has renderings that clearly do not reflect the final product. For example One Bennett Park; the height on the renderings does not match the real height of the building. On the flip side, One Chicago Square used intentional sightless and perspective to make the building seem shorter. What is fact are the architectural drawings of the building submitted to the city. Seriously, can we put this whole argument to rest and realize that the difference between OMP and NEMA in the first rendering is not 160 feet.

BonoboZill4 · #**1695** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 1:54 AM**

Great vantage point XIII!

kolchak · #**1696** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 9:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Knightwing

That's sort of my point. In the original rendering, the first setback was clearly above OMP.

But as the consensus seems to be that final judgment should be reserved until this thing is topped off, I'll keep quiet.

I think the drawing(s) you refer to was a mock up used at the meeting when plans for the building were unveiled. It was never accurate and its just a quick draw up of the buildings pasted onto a picture. If you look closely the scale is way off.

Here is Vinoly with the model that was also shown at that unveiling - at the same time as that funky illustration. It looks accurate to me, no?

Justin Kaufmann

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9/3

J_M_Tungsten · #**1697** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 1:08 PM**

I’m really liking how this is turning out. While a twin would be cool, I think having 4 unique buildings from LSD to Michigan. would be better. Looking forward to the last, probably most prominent, site to be developed on Michigan and Roosevelt.

BuildThemTaller · #**1698** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 1:17 PM**

Did anyone see the revised design for Hudson Tower in Detroit? Site prep has been underway with construction expected to start soon. What was previously a tall box has been redesigned and appears to be very NEMA Chicago in its look. It'll be about the same height, too, if a little taller. Designs are from Shop Architects. Maybe they should throw Vinoly an honorarium or something.

https://crain-platform-cdb-prod.s3.a...0plan-03_i.jpg

Zerton · #**1699** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 5:23 PM**

https://luckystaroffice.com/new/wp-c...tte-Packet.jpg

Sears did it first anyway.

patriotizzy · #**1700** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 5:57 PM**

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https://luckystaroffice.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Cigarette-Packet.jpg

Sears did it first anyway.

Grasping at straws comparing a setbacked building with a box of opened cigarettes.