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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 10:11 PM
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How much do reduced loads really matter at launch? You still have to run the same peak schedules. If you break down, you'll still have to the same mitigation plan in place. The only difference is fewer pissed off riders possibly.
That, and any benefit of launching during a "low" period is going to be more than compensated for by the gee-wiz-new-train-smell curiosity that will attract people to ride the rails, even if only once.
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That, and any benefit of launching during a "low" period is going to be more than compensated for by the gee-wiz-new-train-smell curiosity that will attract people to ride the rails, even if only once.
True. Heck. Just look at how many people took in Kontinuum just out of curiosity of getting underneath the city. So first day might well be packed even when school or work isn't on.

I mean, if they really wanted to get some flex, launch on a long weekend. Like say the Saturday of family day in Feb or on Good Friday. Get all the curious out of the way. Lower loads. Etc.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2018, 12:30 AM
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That, and any benefit of launching during a "low" period is going to be more than compensated for by the gee-wiz-new-train-smell curiosity that will attract people to ride the rails, even if only once.
Another benefit is that there will be a lot of confusion the first few days as people try to figure out how the system works. Having fewer people riding will help distribute that confusion.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2018, 4:47 PM
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They should launch on a Saturday, temporarily using rush hour frequencies for the first two days, so we can accomdate the inevitable rush of joy riders.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2018, 5:32 PM
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I would personally avoid using the line for a week after launch, until everyone has calmed down a little.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2018, 8:04 PM
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Really looks to be about a month away from completion. Whether they'll pass acceptance though is another question.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2018, 12:30 AM
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And Rideau. With the scaffolding gone, it's looking good.


https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/o-train-confederation-line-project-update-october-2-2018
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2018, 1:17 AM
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That picture really tells you how far behind they are. They could finish all those other stations by the end of October. That's pretty obvious. Rideau, not so much.
     
     
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Why are there no wires up at Rideau? Are they that far behind? Does that mean that no trains have gone West of there?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2018, 7:50 PM
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Why are there no wires up at Rideau? Are they that far behind? Does that mean that no trains have gone West of there?
Either they are there or the picture is old. It has been stated before that all tracks and wiring have been completed throughout the entire line.
     
     
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Why are there no wires up at Rideau? Are they that far behind? Does that mean that no trains have gone West of there?
They use rigid catenary in the tunnel which in that photo I think is that bar in front of the red fencing

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They use rigid catenary in the tunnel which in that photo I think is that bar in front of the red fencing
Correct. I believe the bars are actually over the centre of the rails, but the angle the picture is taken at makes them look to the side.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2018, 8:36 PM
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Correct. I believe the bars are actually over the centre of the rails, but the angle the picture is taken at makes them look to the side.
When I asked exactly the same question a couple of months ago, OCCheetos helpfully posted this visual aid: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=8279224&postcount=7775
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2018, 3:53 PM
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Absolutely. A year's delay in the grand scheme of things is not terminal.

The impact, however, is serious. This is the absolute core of Ottawa's network. The long construction period and delays, along with diversions do impact ridership. And the costs add up.

All that said, I'd rather they take the time to get it right than rush to handover. Having a system that breaks down constantly while new would really rob public confidence.
Good Day.

Knew I could find some of it somewhere.....
https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/...il-transit-construction-plans-dcn044283w

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Ottawa may speed up light rail transit construction plans
Daily Commercial News May 11, 2011

The City of Ottawa has published a staff report recommending the completion of a light rail system by the spring of 2018, a year earlier than originally scheduled.

The report, Ottawa's Light Rail Transit (OLRT) Project Schedule Acceleration and Procurement Option Selection, was submitted by Nancy Schepers, deputy city manager for infrastructure services and community sustainability/services to the city's finance and economic development committee.

It recommends that the city direct staff to accelerate the implementation of the Ottawa Light Rail Transit Project and contract the design and construction using a design-build-maintain model.

The RFP has not been issued yet.

Although the original completion data was planned for 2019, the new report recommends that the request for proposals give considerable weight to project scheduling and provide for nearly all downtown construction to be completed by the summer of July 2017, with stations and trains open for public viewing, in time for the 150th anniversary of Confederation.

Under the new proposal, the light rail would be operational by 2018.

The light rail project would be about 12.5 km long, between Tunney's Pasture and Blair Stations, primarily on the existing Transitway corridor. There will be 13 stations, four of which would be underground downtown in twin tunnels 3.2 km in length.

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The link in the article to the document does not work,
(( https://www.ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/ci...20-%20ACS2011-ICS-RIO-0001%20-%20LRT.htm ))
and I cannot find it in either my files (was too minor to copy at the time) nor the City system (of course).

So........ we are right on - the original - schedule, prior to the #### !!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2018, 4:57 PM
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Either they are there or the picture is old. It has been stated before that all tracks and wiring have been completed throughout the entire line.
Also trains keep appearing on the surface west of the tunnel.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2018, 7:05 PM
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I know we are all impatient, but this is a pretty cool time for Ottawa. It seems like ages since O'Brien nixed the original surface LRT plan and set us back 10 years but it's all coming together now. It has been a tedious process but we are already starting to see the TOD that "big cities" are made of. I don't have anywhere to go on transit these days, but I will def go for a ride ASAP when it opens.
     
     
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I know we are all impatient, but this is a pretty cool time for Ottawa. It seems like ages since O'Brien nixed the original surface LRT plan and set us back 10 years but it's all coming together now. It has been a tedious process but we are already starting to see the TOD that "big cities" are made of. I don't have anywhere to go on transit these days, but I will def go for a ride ASAP when it opens.

The original plan was a bad one thats why it was nixed. Surface LRT would not have worked in a city like Ottawa and Obrien knew that which is why he went with a fully grade separated system that will be immune to traffic.

Chiarelli's orginal plan did nothing to solve the bus clog downtown which needed to be addressed first. So good for Obrien for putting transit users first for a change which guarantees more rapid transit extensions in the future.
     
     
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It's unfortunate because the first LRT plan was actually a decent plan, just not as a first phase. If the current plan was already built, the Chiarelli 2006 plan would have been great. Better service along the Trillium trunk and to the south end, and a surface route through downtown could have been convenient for shorter trips in the downtown core, once the massive bus jam on Albert-Slater was removed. But with the Albert-Slater jam there, adding a tram to it would have just been a nightmare.
     
     
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