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Old Posted Sep 6, 2018, 11:35 PM
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Several midrise/highrise projects under construction simultaneously. The state is hoping to start construction of the new 17 story or so courthouse by the end of this year. Clark construction has been awarded the contract if I'm not mistaken.
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2018, 1:11 AM
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Calpers’ Bet on Sacramento’s Planned Tallest Tower Splits Board


By Heather Gillers and Dawn Lim
Sept. 4, 2018
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"Sacramento officials are cheering a decision by the California Public Employees’ Retirement System to build what would be the tallest tower in its hometown. But some inside Calpers’ boardroom are concerned the 550-foot project represents too much risk..."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/calpers-bet...ed-tallest-tower-splits-board-1536053401
I read this in the WSJ the other day and it just underscores that even after a decade, CalPERS is still not completely on board with developing a project on that parcel. I’m not sure how many more votes will need to happen by CalPERS to make construction a reality but it really gives me pause not to get too excited about this yet. It’s possible they could pull the plug on it again like they did with Saca and CalPERS really doesn’t care about bad publicity.
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2018, 5:08 PM
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Yeah, it's funny how speculation works.

On one hand you've got city officials saying it's difficult to lure companies to Sacramento because of a lack of premium large-scale offices, and on the other hand you've got developers saying it's too big of a risk to build them. The way I see it is, the situation will stay the same unless someone has the cajones to build.
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2018, 9:04 PM
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On one hand you've got city officials saying it's difficult to lure companies to Sacramento because of a lack of premium large-scale offices, and on the other hand you've got developers saying it's too big of a risk to build them. The way I see it is, the situation will stay the same unless someone has the cajones to build.
Very true and the same holds true for residential highrises. Saca and Nassi sold nearly half the condos in their respective proposals prior to the last real estate crash. In almost any other market (including Chicago where I lived) those same types of proposals were being built on spec without any pre construction sales. Some of them were opening with 75% vacancy. Even today Chicago is being over built even as the population declines but Sacramento is still considered a risk in the eyes of financial lenders.
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 4:58 PM
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On one hand you've got city officials saying it's difficult to lure companies to Sacramento because of a lack of premium large-scale offices, and on the other hand you've got developers saying it's too big of a risk to build them. The way I see it is, the situation will stay the same unless someone has the cajones to build.
The last time someone invested big downtown on speculation was in 2007 by
Tsakopoulos Investment. The Tsakopoulos family build 500 Capitol Mall with
their own money, no banks involved. I believe the day it open about 20% of
the tower was leased and about 1 ½ years later it was near 80% leased.
Luring several big tenants form 555 Capitol Mall. The timing to finish the
tower was perfect, if they had waited to much longer before beginning
construction, the slow down leading up the recession might have paused the
project and possibly shorten the tower.

David Taylor on the other hand has 20 years of experience building in
downtown and has successfully built 4 high-rises only if subsidies are
included. Without the cities financial aid most large projects built
downtown in the last 25 years might not have happen. K Street between 5th
& 11th streets are lined with subsidized redevelopment. CADA has had to
offered subsidies for every housing project they have ever done up until the
site at 14th & N Street. Sacramento politicians have created an environment
where subsidies are the rule not the exception.
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 5:40 PM
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Was not aware the project at 21 and Q was already under construction (former Sac Bee garage). That is exciting. Not very tall but still will be the most housing units of a single project in downtown/midtown in quite a few years.
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Powerhouse Science Center any opinions? iv'e noticed movement on the site, any news on any bigger projects ?????
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 4:01 PM
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the 17 story courthouse should be starting soon.
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 4:38 PM
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Powerhouse Science Center any opinions? iv'e noticed movement on the site, any news on any bigger projects ?????
Yup according to Biz Journal it is starting up. I still love the general plan of connecting this to another museum via pedestrian pathway to the railyards but not sure where that stands these days.

Framing of 10th floor for 19J is going up--getting close to seeing the final size of the building.
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 5:19 PM
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This is pretty big news for the region.

Fortune 500 company finalizes deal for massive Sacramento campus, developer closes escrow
Ryan Lillis
Sacramento Bee
September 13, 2018

Fortune 500 health insurer Centene has finalized a deal to open a major corporate campus in North Natomas and the facility’s developer closed escrow on the site purchase Thursday.

Mayor Darrell Steinberg said Centene will be the tenant in a sprawling headquarters building at East Commerce Way and Arena Boulevard.

Steinberg, Councilwoman Angelique Ashby, city officials and the Greater Sacramento Economic Council negotiated a deal to lure what will likely become the city’s largest private employer.

Centene already employs about 3,000 people in the Sacramento region and is planning to employ up to 5,000 at its North Natomas campus, city officials said. Construction on the facility could begin as early as next month.

“We are on the verge of the single-largest job creation opportunity we have had in recent history,” Steinberg said.


https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article218366420.html


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https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article218366420.html
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 6:10 PM
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This is pretty big news for the region.

Fortune 500 company finalizes deal for massive Sacramento campus, developer closes escrow
Ryan Lillis
Sacramento Bee
September 13, 2018

Fortune 500 health insurer Centene has finalized a deal to open a major corporate campus in North Natomas and the facility’s developer closed escrow on the site purchase Thursday.

Mayor Darrell Steinberg said Centene will be the tenant in a sprawling headquarters building at East Commerce Way and Arena Boulevard.

Steinberg, Councilwoman Angelique Ashby, city officials and the Greater Sacramento Economic Council negotiated a deal to lure what will likely become the city’s largest private employer.

Centene already employs about 3,000 people in the Sacramento region and is planning to employ up to 5,000 at its North Natomas campus, city officials said. Construction on the facility could begin as early as next month.

“We are on the verge of the single-largest job creation opportunity we have had in recent history,” Steinberg said.


https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article218366420.html


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https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article218366420.html
That's a whole lot of parking lot....
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2018, 1:19 AM
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Powerhouse Science Center any opinions? iv'e noticed movement on the site
Supposedly starting construction. We’ll see.

It will be an incredible project if ever completed; kind of like a miniature Field Museum. I wish the city could turn that area at the confluence of the American and Sacramento Rivers into an adjacent park but I wouldn’t support the cost to acquire the land nor the use of eminent domain to acquire it.

I’m also hopeful about the Native American museum across the river. That will be a $200 million project if California Native Tribes can find $100 million to pay for half of it.

California has a very rich Native American / First Nations population history and it could be a destination project along with the Science Center.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2018, 1:57 AM
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This is pretty big news for the region.

Fortune 500 company finalizes deal for massive Sacramento campus, developer closes escrow
Ryan Lillis
Sacramento Bee
September 13, 2018

Fortune 500 health insurer Centene has finalized a deal to open a major corporate campus in North Natomas and the facility’s developer closed escrow on the site purchase Thursday.

Mayor Darrell Steinberg said Centene will be the tenant in a sprawling headquarters building at East Commerce Way and Arena Boulevard.

Steinberg, Councilwoman Angelique Ashby, city officials and the Greater Sacramento Economic Council negotiated a deal to lure what will likely become the city’s largest private employer.

Centene already employs about 3,000 people in the Sacramento region and is planning to employ up to 5,000 at its North Natomas campus, city officials said. Construction on the facility could begin as early as next month.

“We are on the verge of the single-largest job creation opportunity we have had in recent history,” Steinberg said.


https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article218366420.html


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https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article218366420.html
This is great news for the Sacramento region. Healthcare is big here and Adventist is also building their West Coast HQ in Roseville.

Blue Shield still has a large operation still in Rancho Cordova and I work for another private medical management company (who shall not be named).

After state government, healthcare is probably Sacramento’s biggest jobs provider. Having said that, there is a bit of a dark cloud hanging over the horizon and that’s Gavin Newsom’s push for single payer healthcare. The numbers of good paying private sector medical jobs that could be lost in our region is staggering.

I’m not debating whether we should find a way to insure all Californians but anytime California State politicians are involved I’m suspicious of the outcome (just look at the DMV). There is an elitist coastal mentality at the Capitol; the Valley and our economy are an afterthought. Hopefully, Sacramento regional leaders sit down with Newsom early on to know what he has planned and how it will affect our healthcare industry.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2018, 9:29 AM
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Looks like the Cathedral Square plans.

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Old Posted Sep 15, 2018, 1:57 PM
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Looks like the Cathedral Square plans.

Yep that’s Cathedral Square alright 1010 J street. I wonder if this is just hype or if they are actually going to get it built. If it is going to get built soon, then it’ll likely show that developers are willing to take a chance to build high again, especially since the Metropolitan and Vanir and 301 and 10K are in the works.

Interestingly enough, it appears that the developers didn’t change the plans st all and it’s still the 25 story proposal that was made years ago. I might be wrong but the proposal height is around 300-350 feet, which is fairly tall. Perhaps this means that the developers are really confident in the market. Let’s hope that their confidence isn’t their downfall...
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2018, 2:09 PM
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Looks like the Cathedral Square plans.

Actually now that I think about it I actually think that the news on Monday will just be about the sale of the property to a new developer. I remember reading two years ago that the site was up for sale so perhaps a new developer got the entitlements and plans to proceed and build the project w/o changing the original plans?

Why do I have the feeling that the developer is Kolokotronis???
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I don’t have high expectations for either the Vanir, Metropolitan and the latest incarnation of the Cathedral Square tower. What’s next? Epic Tower making a comeback. Yamanee, at 14 stories, is struggling with financing.

Right now, I’m excited for 19J and 15Q as those projects are making significant progress.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2018, 4:16 PM
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I don’t have high expectations for either the Vanir, Metropolitan and the latest incarnation of the Cathedral Square tower. What’s next? Epic Tower making a comeback. Yamanee, at 14 stories, is struggling with financing.

Right now, I’m excited for 19J and 15Q as those projects are making significant progress.
I thought Yamanee got screwed over by a lawsuit? Isn’t that organization that’s suing Yamanee going to appeal the decision made last year?
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Actually now that I think about it I actually think that the news on Monday will just be about the sale of the property to a new developer. I remember reading two years ago that the site was up for sale so perhaps a new developer got the entitlements and plans to proceed and build the project w/o changing the original plans?

Why do I have the feeling that the developer is Kolokotronis???

You're correct. The site was bought by a new developer but it isn't SKK.

Here's a short summary of the article.

By Ben van der Meer – Staff Writer, Sacramento Business Journal
Sep 17, 2018, 6:59am PDT

Residential builder Premier United Communities has bought the site of a planned 25-story mixed-use condominium tower in downtown Sacramento.

Escrow closed Sept. 11. Brendan Leonard, who works in land acquisition and entitlements for Premier United, said the ultimate plan for the site is still being determined.

Leonard said the project will definitely be mostly residential, with the possibility of first-floor office or retail space, or even an events center given its proximity to the state Capitol.

"Knowing that it's on J Street, it's got greater potential than the five- or six-story projects of wood frame over a concrete podium you see popping up around midtown," Leonard said. But it's also possible Premier United could move forward with a project not as tall as Cathedral Square's entitlements, he added, given the undetermined market in downtown Sacramento for high-rise residential units in large numbers.
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2018, 9:54 PM
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Interesting talk about removing I-5 through downtown Sacramento.

https://mobilitylab.org/2018/09/12/why-new-york-dc-and-sacramento-should-demolish-a-few-highways/

I know it has been brought up before, but this is a new one. Now we just need a spare billion dollars.
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