YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 676

SpongeG · #**13501** Posted **Sep 16, 2018, 9:06 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by teriyaki

Prudent operational planning to have their aircraft at the outport station (YVR) instead of home (HKG) where there's a level 10 super typhoon wreaking havoc on everything thats not bolted down.

ah right, I was wondering if that was why

teriyaki · #**13502** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 7:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

The YUL and YYZ pages are pretty dormant, hence the posts on the Canadian airports page. YHM has a pretty active page, and yet people still post in the national page. As do people from this thread mind you. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Pretty straighforward criteria to post in the national page methinks.

1. Are you posting about a Canadian airport? If yes.
2. Go ahead

Very glad we have an active community for here for YVR

nname · #**13503** Posted **Sep 19, 2018, 6:57 PM**

Latest stat from TPE... Looks like it's much more busier this year, and the route may still lacks capacity over the summer months. Wonder if BR ever going to bring the 777HD back, or AC may want a bigger plane...

YVR -> TPE, July
AC 89.4%
BR 86.9%
CI 93.5%

YVR -> TPE, Aug
AC 91.3%
BR 78.9%
CI 88.7%

TPE -> YVR, July
AC 96.8%
BR 88.0%
CI 89.8%

TPE -> YVR, Aug
AC 99.2%
BR 93.0%
CI 95.7%

How hard would it take to achieve an average monthly LF of over 99% for a daily flight...

excel · #**13504** Posted **Sep 19, 2018, 8:20 PM**

Plenty over booking

teriyaki · #**13505** Posted **Sep 19, 2018, 8:44 PM**

Looking good for TPE flights to see them going out full.

Prices connecting on CI and BR to rest of Asia though haven't moved much and even may have gone up after the introduction of AC. Also happened was the retiring of the 747-400 flights from both CI and BR so capacity on both those carriers has come down quite a bit moving to the A350 and 777.

In any case, hope all 3 are happy with the route and we see healthy competition

Hourglass · #**13506** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 4:07 AM**

YVR Ranks #27 globally in the 2018 OAG Megahubs report, which looks at the world’s most internationally connected airports. That’s higher than Sydney (#29), San Francisco (#30), Beijing (#32) and Zurich (#41). Toronto was #5.

Not too shabby at all.

Link to the full report is here: https://www.oag.com/hubfs/Free_Reports/M...7%7Cf52e0462-7e9f-4091-a2e7-91d2eda51d07

LeftCoaster · #**13507** Posted **Sep 22, 2018, 12:26 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

Latest stat from TPE... Looks like it's much more busier this year, and the route may still lacks capacity over the summer months. Wonder if BR ever going to bring the 777HD back, or AC may want a bigger plane...

YVR -> TPE, July
AC 89.4%
BR 86.9%
CI 93.5%

YVR -> TPE, Aug
AC 91.3%
BR 78.9%
CI 88.7%

TPE -> YVR, July
AC 96.8%
BR 88.0%
CI 89.8%

TPE -> YVR, Aug
AC 99.2%
BR 93.0%
CI 95.7%

How hard would it take to achieve an average monthly LF of over 99% for a daily flight...

I'm flying with AC in November. I wonder how good the off peak loads are as I spent $705 round trip. Cheaper than a flight to Toronto.

Johnny Aussie · #**13508** Posted **Sep 22, 2018, 3:30 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I'm flying with AC in November. I wonder how good the off peak loads are as I spent $705 round trip. Cheaper than a flight to Toronto.

We are flying EVA home for Xmas via TPE and premium economy was a steal of a deal.. l EVA’s prem economy is terrific! Including stopovers each way to see a bit more of Taipei.

SpongeG · #**13509** Posted **Sep 22, 2018, 5:18 AM**

from facebook:

Vancouver International Airport
5 hrs ·
YVR proudly welcomes Iskwew Air to the family! Iskwew is a Cree word for woman and celebrates the first airline in Canada owned by an Indigenous woman. Service will commence in Spring 2019. For more information about our new partner visit www.iskwew.ca

https://www.facebook.com/VancouverInternationalAirport/posts/1830386660332453

excel · #**13510** Posted **Sep 22, 2018, 6:33 AM**

That's one nice looking Navajo. How fitting for the airline

nname · #**13511** Posted **Sep 25, 2018, 9:25 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG

from facebook:

Vancouver International Airport
5 hrs ·
YVR proudly welcomes Iskwew Air to the family! Iskwew is a Cree word for woman and celebrates the first airline in Canada owned by an Indigenous woman. Service will commence in Spring 2019. For more information about our new partner visit www.iskwew.ca

Maybe that'll help increase YVR's destination count, as there are still many tiny BC airports without scheduled service

YMB, YLI, DUQ, YHE, ZGF, YMP, YPB, YPS, YCA, YCW, YAL, YPU, YSN, YSE, YVE... easily 15 destinations

LeftCoaster · #**13512** Posted **Sep 25, 2018, 11:00 PM**

An easy to root for story, hope she can make it work.

twoNeurons · #**13513** Posted **Sep 26, 2018, 12:22 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity

It's crazy there isn't a YUL thread. Is it's following too lame to have one or do they just want to pump themselves up in front of the rest of the country in the national thread?

Not sure about YUL, but I know that SSC is a more popular forum for Torontites. SSP was started in Vancouver ( way, way, back ) so it makes sense that YVR has a strong following here.

nname · #**13514** Posted **Sep 27, 2018, 3:24 AM**

Cross post from the Canadian Airport thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

Effective Oct 1, China will ease restriction on one airline per route policy on 20 most popular routes.

Affected routes in Canada:
PEK-YVR
PEK-YYZ
PVG-YVR
PVG-YYZ

List of all the routes:
https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rngs/CHINA-AIRLINES/010080EM0VB/CHINA-AIRLINES.jpg

Source:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china...outes-as-restrictions-ease-idUSKCN1M60TL

What will be the effect from this? There is no more frequency available from the Chinese side, but will there be shuffling of the Canadian routes? Would MU move one of the PVG-YVR flight to PEK-YVR? Will CA try PVG-YVR, but they definitely want access to YYZ too? Will HU move some of the YYZ/YYC frequency to PEK-YVR? Would any of the route to secondary cities like TAO or TSN be cancelled? Or would any of the airline play evil and drop 1 weekly frequency so the route no longer qualify for the minimum 14 flights/week requirement to be served by 2 airlines?

zahav · #**13515** Posted **Oct 1, 2018, 9:30 PM**

August stats are out. Growth more subdued for sure, I think the onslaught of fires/weather factored in as many had predicted. I wonder if rebookings into September will help those numbers, or if it was just a wash of cancellations without rebooking? The US numbers continue to be underwhelming after a stronger first half of the year. Still the Trump effect?

Domestic: +4.5% (+6.8% YTD)
Transborder: +2.9% (+6.1% YTD)
International (non-transborder): +10.2% (+13% YTD)
International (incl transborder): +6.7% (+9.7% YTD)
Overall: +5.7% (+8.3% YTD)

Still not bad numbers for the month, roughly the same as YUL's overall growth but lower than YYC's. YYC domestic has been pulling ahead again, while international is shrinking. YVR and YUL are more similar with international leading the way

Johnny Aussie · #**13516** Posted **Oct 2, 2018, 12:14 AM**

Yes subdued is a good word. In a normal period of growth 5.7% would be robust... but when you’re used to much higher growth...

Still though YVR added 144,000 more passengers compared to last August... about 90,000 of that is international.

YVR’s TTL international growth YTD still the strongest in Canada and second behind YYZ in aggregate numbers.

YVR’s international domestic split was 52.3/47.7 in August.

YYC continues to become an increasing domestic airport with almost 75% of pax numbers domestic in August.

Johnny Aussie · #**13517** Posted **Oct 2, 2018, 7:36 PM**

Next summer looks like AC is doing an aircraft swap between FRA and the second LHR.

Shifting a bit of capacity LHR —> FRA.

AC 840 to FRA now showing as a 789
AC 896 to LHR now showing as a 788

AC 854 to LHR still showing as a 789

nname · #**13518** Posted **Oct 3, 2018, 4:48 AM**

Looking at next summer's schedule.

YVR-KIX reduce to 5x weekly (x57)
YVR-ZRH increase to 5x weekly (x13)
YVR-CDG remains 4x weekly (x246)

As for DUB, right now still remains Rouge (!!), but reduced to 4x weekly. To me, that's a signal that it will probably survive, and more changes may be coming...

On a side note, all YUL 788's are now replaced by 789. So now all of the 788s are running out of YVR, except 2 routes in YYZ.

Code:

AC 2	77W	HND - YYZ
AC 4	789	NRT - YVR
AC 6	789	NRT - YUL
AC 8	77W	HKG - YVR
AC 10	763	NRT - YYC - YYZ
AC 12	789	PVG - YUL
AC 14	-	Not Found!
AC 16	77L	HKG - YYZ
AC 18	789	TPE - YVR
AC 20	-	Not Found!
AC 22	-	Not Found!
AC 24	-	Not Found!
AC 26	77W	PVG - YVR
AC 28	789	PVG - YYZ
AC 30	77W	PEK - YVR
AC 32	77W	PEK - YYZ
AC 34	77L	SYD - YVR - YYZ
AC 36	788	BNE - YVR
AC 38	789	MEL - YVR
AC 40	788	KIX - YVR
AC 42	789	YYZ - DEL
AC 44	789	YVR - DEL
AC 46	789	YYZ - BOM
AC 48	-	Not Found!
AC 50	-	Not Found!
AC 52	-	Not Found!
AC 54	-	Not Found!
AC 56	789	YYZ - DXB
AC 58	-	Not Found!
AC 60	-	Not Found!
AC 62	77W	ICN - YYZ
AC 64	789	ICN - YVR
AC 66	-	Not Found!
AC 68	-	Not Found!
AC 70	-	Not Found!
AC 72	-	Not Found!
AC 74	-	Not Found!
AC 76	-	Not Found!
AC 78	-	Not Found!
AC 80	-	Not Found!
AC 82	333	YUL - TLV
AC 84	789	YYZ - TLV
AC 86	-	Not Found!
AC 88	-	Not Found!
AC 90	789	YYZ - GRU
AC 92	789	YYZ - SCL
AC 94	789	YYZ - EZE
AC 96	-	Not Found!
AC 98	-	Not Found!

AC 800	-	Not Found!
AC 802	788	YVR - ZRH
AC 804	-	Not Found!
AC 806	788	YVR - CDG
AC 808	333	YUL - CMN
AC 810	-	Not Found!
AC 812	7M8	YUL - KEF
AC 814	7M8	YUL - BOD
AC 816	7M8	YYZ - KEF
AC 818	7M8	YUL - DUB
AC 820	7M8	YYZ - SNN
AC 822	7M8	YYT - LHR
AC 824	789	YYZ - AMS
AC 826	-	Not Found!
AC 828	333	YUL - LYS
AC 830	-	Not Found!
AC 832	333	YUL - BRU
AC 834	333	YYZ - YUL - GVA
AC 836	789	YYZ - MAD
AC 838	763	YOW - FRA
AC 840	789	YVR - FRA
AC 842	333	YYZ - DUB
AC 844	77L	YYC - FRA
AC 846	789	YYZ - MUC
AC 848	77W	YYZ - LHR
AC 850	789	YYC - LHR
AC 852	-	Not Found!
AC 854	789	YVR - LHR
AC 856	77W	YYZ - LHR
AC 858	77W	YYZ - LHR
AC 860	7M8	YHZ - LHR
AC 862	-	Not Found!
AC 864	333	YUL - LHR
AC 866	-	Not Found!
AC 868	788	YYZ - LHR
AC 870	333	YUL - CDG
AC 872	77W	YYZ - FRA
AC 874	789	YUL - FRA
AC 876	77L	YYZ - FRA
AC 878	77W	YYZ - ZRH
AC 880	77W	YYZ - CDG
AC 882	77W	YYZ - CPH
AC 884	77W	YUL - CDG
AC 886	-	Not Found!
AC 888	763	YOW - LHR
AC 890	77W	YYZ - FCO
AC 892	77W	YUL - FCO
AC 894	788	YYZ - MXP
AC 896	788	YVR - LHR
AC 898	789	YYZ - VIE

So counting the 788s:
2 planes for YVR - KIX/ZRH/CDG
2 planes for YVR/YYZ - LHR
1.5 planes for YVR - BNE
1 plane for YYZ-MXP

No more domestic or trans-con 788s.
so 1.5 planes - ??

nname · #**13519** Posted **Oct 3, 2018, 6:15 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Next summer looks like AC is doing an aircraft swap between FRA and the second LHR.

Shifting a bit of capacity LHR —> FRA.

AC 840 to FRA now showing as a 789
AC 896 to LHR now showing as a 788

AC 854 to LHR still showing as a 789

AC 897 is a 789
AC 855 is now a 788

So basically, it's

AC 896 YVR 2105 - 1420+1 LHR
AC 859 LHR 1800 - 2040 YYZ

AC 868 YYZ 0910 - 2100 LHR
AC 855 LHR 1005 - 1130 YVR

I guess that's actually 3 planes for the LHR rotation?

zahav · #**13520** Posted **Oct 3, 2018, 6:26 AM**

KIX is 6 weekly from what I see, just x6

SO curious what is happening with DUB, I can see them moving it to mainline. I hope that is the case at least!