Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[p_xavier]

Originally Posted by Norman Bates

Great shot! But where is it? I can’t seem to place it.

Cyrville as there's a banner on the Platform.

[waterloowarrior]

Originally Posted by Norman Bates

Great shot! But where is it? I can’t seem to place it.

Cyrville looking east

[zzptichka]

Island platform is so much better than side

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Catenary

I understand your idea, and don't disagree with it. A pathway out to Coventry would be nice.

I don't see how your idea creates a pathway out to St. Laurent in the east though. Going west along the path down to the lettered avenues then backtracking to St. Laurent isn't convenient.

As I said, the path could continue on the north side of the tracks, under St. Laurent (and the off ramp that leads to Lemieux St) towards Michael Street North and beyond.

Not so good for those wanting to walk to destinations off of St. Laurent south of the 417, but there isn't all that much nearby anyway, so transferring to a bus would be a better option for most.

It is all moot though as they built that pathway on the south side of the tracks and aren't going to move it.

[Catenary]

Originally Posted by roger1818

If you read my entire post, you would have noticed that I suggested Thai’s they had moved the path to the side north of the tracks, they could easily had official paths from the east, west and south to the station.

Originally Posted by roger1818

As I said, the path could continue on the north side of the tracks, under St. Laurent (and the off ramp that leads to Lemieux St) towards Michael Street North and beyond.

Not so good for those wanting to walk to destinations off of St. Laurent south of the 417, but there isn't all that much nearby anyway, so transferring to a bus would be a better option for most.

It is all moot though as they built that pathway on the south side of the tracks and aren't going to move it.

Ah, I understand what you mean.

The concern with subterranean passages is usually crime, safety and security, especially when they aren't busy. I fear that would be the case here. The old path was at least open to the vehicle lanes of the tunnel.

[Hybrid247]

This was just posted by Mathieu Fleury a few hours ago. I'm not so sure Rideau will be done by November at this pace.


https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/status/1028643537393516545

A few other pics to share:

Cyrville

https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/status/1028001095916736513


https://twitter.com/rail613/status/1025810017965039618

Tunney's



https://twitter.com/otrainfans613/status/1027989023032336384

Lees



https://twitter.com/CounterClick/status/1025807114101555200

[acottawa]

What is the elaborate scaffolding for?

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by acottawa

What is the elaborate scaffolding for?

I think it's so they can install the fancy wavy ceiling grid. Rideau might not be as hopeless as we think (though it's definitely looking iffy). It's mostly a giant empty cave due to it's full open platforms, unlike the other stations.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I think it's so they can install the fancy wavy ceiling grid.

That makes sense. They are also likely wanting to keep the track clear while they install it, so that they can keep testing trains through the tunnel.

Here is a picture of the ceiling from the Confederation Line page with close to the same perspective:

Rideau might not be as hopeless as we think (though it's definitely looking iffy). It's mostly a giant empty cave due to it's full open platforms, unlike the other stations.

I agree. Add the ceiling and take away the scaffolding and it is pretty close. The schedule looks tight, but not impossible IMHO (especially if they work 24/7). Here is the picture from the OP for reference:

Originally Posted by Hybrid247

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/status/1028643537393516545

[1overcosc]

They gave the layoff notice for the drivers and dated it for December 1st, which to me suggests they're pretty confident now about November.

[1overcosc]

Or perhaps they're confident the line itself will open by November.. but not so much about Rideau. They might open the line with trains running through Rideau initially, with the station opening a month or two later. IMO, that's preferable to delaying the opening of the entire line.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Or perhaps they're confident the line itself will open by November.. but not so much about Rideau. They might open the line with trains running through Rideau initially, with the station opening a month or two later. IMO, that's preferable to delaying the opening of the entire line.

I would imagine they'd get the crucial parts done by November (i.e. the ceiling). If some of the signage and wall tiling isn't quite done by opening day then that shouldn't prevent them from opening the station.

Speaking of which, does signage and minor aesthetic stuff fall under "substantial completion"?

[Truenorth00]

They've been moving at a good clip lately. I really wouldn't be too worried about them finishing by November.

[HighwayStar]

Originally Posted by Hybrid247

This was just posted by Mathieu Fleury a few hours ago. I'm not so sure Rideau will be done by November at this pace.


https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/status/1028643537393516545

Looks like the overhead electrical wires (is it still called a Catenary in the tunnel??) are still missing... probably why they can't do end-to-end testing at this time.

I would guess that to be a major milestone... most of the rest is "cosmetic".

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by HighwayStar

Looks like the overhead electrical wires (is it still called a Catenary in the tunnel??) are still missing... probably why they can't do end-to-end testing at this time.

I would guess that to be a major milestone... most of the rest is "cosmetic".

I think they're there. (Highlighted in yellow). It's an overhead rail of sorts.

[corynv]

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

I think they're there. (Highlighted in yellow). It's an overhead rail of sorts.

Those just look like beams to me. Doesn't look like the wires do on the rest of the system (they wouldn't need more protection inside the tunnel.)

[Hybrid247]

Looks like the same overhead rails seen in the rest of the tunnel:




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/lrt-tunnel-track-finished-1.4649177

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by corynv

Those just look like beams to me. Doesn't look like the wires do on the rest of the system (they wouldn't need more protection inside the tunnel.)

The official term is "rigid catenary"

http://www.railsystem.net/rigid-catenary-or-overhead-contact-system/

The entire tunnel uses it as well as St Laurent station. It's generally used where there's clearance issues.


It allowed them to build a slightly tighter tunnel versus say Edmonton which uses overhead wire in the tunnel. It might not seem like much, but it adds up to a big savings over the length of the tunnel.


I'm not sure why they used it at St Laurent though, the tunnel is massive by train standards with tons of clearance. Maybe it's only because of the existing overpass bridge in the station itself

[Kitchissippi]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I'm not sure why they used it at St Laurent though, the tunnel is massive by train standards with tons of clearance. Maybe it's only because of the existing overpass bridge in the station itself

Rigid catenary is quieter and less sparky than wire, which makes a big difference in the tunnel sections

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Rigid catenary is quieter and less sparky than wire, which makes a big difference in the tunnel sections

Also, as the article kmcamp linked to says, other advantages include:

1. More capability of current carrying
2. No risk of breaking-off, more security
3. Easy operation and maintenance

Before anyone asks why didn't they use it for the entire line, I suspect that is because it it isn't flexible and thus needs to be attached to a ridged ceiling, which you only have in the tunnels.