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Busy Bee · #**561** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 4:47 PM**

There's really no need to discuss whether people need or don't need straws. It's a personal preference. Make them out of waxed paper like they used to be and be done with it.

Busy Bee · #**562** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 2:24 AM**

^Woah, did that girl just run through a bunch of barbed wire?

Busy Bee · #**563** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 2:30 AM**

Well it's no I Fall To Pieces...

LouisVanDerWright · #**564** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

^Woah, did that girl just run through a bunch of barbed wire?

Nope, just attended Columbia College for a few semesters...

Jim in Chicago · #**565** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 2:17 PM**

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Nope, just attended Columbia College for a few semesters...

A few semesters? More like a couple weeks. Each fall we watch the parental units drop off seemingly clean cut kids. Within a week they look like her. I can only imagine what the parents think when they pick up the kids for Christmas break.

emathias · #**566** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 2:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vlajos

Plastic cups? What restaurant has plastic cups? And a wine/beer/water bottles are hardly an issue.

I'm fine with eliminating straws at restaurants. I hate them anyway.

I've been a lot of places with plastic cups.

Vlajos · #**567** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by emathias

I've been a lot of places with plastic cups.

Plastic to be thrown out after one use? I can't think of a restaurant I've been to with that.

Plastic that is dishwasher safe, sure.

Freefall · #**568** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vlajos

Plastic to be thrown out after one use? I can't think of a restaurant I've been to with that.

Plastic that is dishwasher safe, sure.

Was just at Bar Cargo last weekend and they had plastic throw-away cups. Or any fast-casual restaurant when you ask for a water cup

left of center · #**569** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 5:59 PM**

Paper straws are great until you learn how absolutely toxic paper mills are to the environment, let alone the mass destruction of forests to create this very energy intensive product that is used for a few minutes and then tossed away.

Reusable plastic straws would be a better bet, IMO. Same goes with cups.

bnk · #**570** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 7:24 PM**

Everyone should be given a reusable straw at birth and keep it on them at all times. Women can keep it in their purse and men can be given a folding straw for their wallets. Lose it and charge them $ 100 dollars for a replacement. Lose it a second time fine them $1000. The third time it happens than Three strikes and your out, talking jail time. Problem solved.

left of center · #**571** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by bnk

Everyone should be given a reusable straw at birth and keep it on them at all times. Women can keep it in their purse and men can be given a folding straw for their wallets. Lose it and charge them $ 100 dollars for a replacement. Lose it a second time fine them $1000. The third time it happens than Three strikes and your out, talking jail time. Problem solved.

Or... just drink straight from a glass like any normal, healthy person can?

Busy Bee · #**572** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 11:06 PM**

Just convert all drinkware to sippycups.

SIGSEGV · #**573** Posted **Jul 31, 2018, 2:48 AM**

Who's going to be first to photograph Wells and Wells?

Rizzo · #**574** Posted **Jul 31, 2018, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by left of center

Paper straws are great until you learn how absolutely toxic paper mills are to the environment, let alone the mass destruction of forests to create this very energy intensive product that is used for a few minutes and then tossed away.

Reusable plastic straws would be a better bet, IMO. Same goes with cups.

I get what you’re saying here, but I’m curious of what the share straws would have on tree harvest and chemical treatment at paper mills. So as long as that industry remains viable, it will continue to impact the environment. The question is whether additional production of straws out of paper is less harmful than non-biodegradable straws and the sourcing and production methods to make them. Both are bad for the environment, but it’s a matter of adding or reducing production at the plant, what does that impact have?

Via Chicago · #**575** Posted **Aug 3, 2018, 3:27 PM**

good to know with all our budget shortfalls we can just keep pissing away cash on the most overdeveloped and over-resourced neighborhood in the entire city

the urban politician · #**576** Posted **Aug 3, 2018, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Via Chicago

good to know with all our budget shortfalls we can just keep pissing away cash on the most overdeveloped and over-resourced neighborhood in the entire city

Nonsense. It's a perfectly good use of resources, and I'm very happy about it, as a person who pays WAY the hell more Chicago property taxes than you do

Via Chicago · #**577** Posted **Aug 3, 2018, 3:30 PM**

tell that to the CPS teachers who have to buy school supplies out of their own pockets. but at least the Vista buyers will have a new nice front lawn.

theres existing infrastrucutre already here. it may not be exactly the design Rahm or other people want in order to make it into the travel magazines and NYT, but its functional and really theres nothing wrong with it. these are the types of "nice to have" splurges that should come after the fiscal situation is under control. and im sure you'll all be wailing when the property taxes get jacked again. if we didnt spend another dime on the Loop for the next 30 years id be perfectly fine with it.

Kenmore · #**578** Posted **Aug 3, 2018, 3:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Via Chicago

good to know with all our budget shortfalls we can just keep pissing away cash on the most overdeveloped and over-resourced neighborhood in the entire city

preach

the urban politician · #**579** Posted **Aug 3, 2018, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Via Chicago

tell that to the CPS teachers who have to buy school supplies out of their own pockets. but at least the Vista buyers will have a new nice front lawn.

theres existing infrastrucutre already here. it may not be exactly the design Rahm or other people want in order to make it into the travel magazines and NYT, but its functional and really theres nothing wrong with it. these are the types of "nice to have" splurges that should come after the fiscal situation is under control. and im sure you'll all be wailing when the property taxes get jacked again. if we didnt spend another dime on the Loop for the next 30 years id be perfectly fine with it.

So every time the city spends money downtown, we have to hear this whining. What amount of spending downtown is acceptable, then?

And regarding property taxes, they will go up anyway, and it's actually because of these bloated pensions for unnecessary city and state employees that it's going up. Have you even bothered to read the news for the past 3 years? I don't mind spending money to spruce up the Riverwalk, and $10M is not excessive.

k1052 · #**580** Posted **Aug 3, 2018, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Remember, the 10M is in addition to what the vendors will be spending on their own properties, and it's in addition to what the Vista developers will be spending on their Riverwalk connection, including the glass elevator.

Didn't anyone read the article? It's all in there

Sure did, including the part where the facilitates commissioner says 10M is tight for what they want to do. I agree with that assessment even though vendors will be spending money as well.