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HighwayStar · #**7621** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:35 PM**

Or maybe to Ottawa Univ in Phoenix ???

LeadingEdgeBoomer · #**7622** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by HighwayStar

Or maybe to Ottawa Univ in Phoenix ???

Maybe that would be nicer. The Ottawa U in Phoenix is a satellite campus of the Kansas one. It seems that when Baptists want a university in their community that reflects their religion they affiliate it with the original one in Ottawa, Kansas.

Kitchissippi · #**7623** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:53 PM**

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uOttawa is becoming more widely used in conversation more often as time goes by. It is more likely to be used by younger people who have been used to it much of their lives, rather than older people who have not. The university sure promotes its use in signage, social media, e-mails I get from them and speaking to employees.

Older people , in particular , tend to use Ottawa U a lot. uOttawa kind of discourages that. The University of Ottawa and Ottawa University are two different places. Ottawa U is a very small liberal arts institution run by the Baptist Church in Ottawa, Kansas. No problem locally , but referring to uOttawa as Ottawa U could cause confusion in foreign lands, especially the USA.

I personally prefer U of O / U d'O, the same way as U of T. uOttawa just sounds so cumbersome, like, "you oughta, wha?". I get that it's an url, a twitter tag, etc., but it isn't even proper spelling and just looks plain weird when it's the first word in a sentence because it's not capitalized.

Kind of reminds me of this story: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1969543_1969557_1969565,00.html

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I use it in English, but not in French.

Precisely. If it's not an accepted French term, why is it being used in the bilingual sign.

613Steve · #**7624** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:56 PM**

As a uOttawa student, I almost never hear someone my age refer to the school as Ottawa U. My Dad and everyone his age who went there all call it Ottawa U though. Definitely an age thing.

elidezpablo · #**7625** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:02 PM**

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Precisely. If it's not an accepted French term, why is it being used in the bilingual sign.

The University uses "uOttawa" as official branding in both English and French, in both print and digital. "Acceptance" of the term is quite subjective.

TransitZilla · #**7626** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:23 PM**

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Toronto and Ottawa are the only ones in the Big 6 cities not actively working on new lines trough the central part of the city.

The Confederation Line alignment between Pimisi and uOttawa is completely new, so I don't think you can claim this. I understand that it is replacing an existing central transit corridor but you can't say that nothing is happening in the centre of the city.

And in Toronto, doesn't the Crosstown count as a new line through the central part of the city?

lrt's friend · #**7627** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:32 PM**

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The Confederation Line alignment between Pimisi and uOttawa is completely new, so I don't think you can claim this. I understand that it is replacing an existing central transit corridor but you can't say that nothing is happening in the centre of the city.

And in Toronto, doesn't the Crosstown count as a new line through the central part of the city?

I think the point is that the other major cities are 'planning' to have multiple lines serving the central parts of the city. Ottawa is building one line, and that is it for the foreseeable future. Toronto has had the status quo since the 1960s and the DRL is still but a dream.

Uhuniau · #**7628** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:34 PM**

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Do people actually use "uOttawa" in conversation in both English and French? I've always disliked making it the station name because it's just trendy internet shorthand, reads terrible phonetically, and doesn't follow real abbreviation conventions.

"uOttawa", no, but "U Ottawa", maybe - standard still seems to be "U of O" in the Hinglish.

Uhuniau · #**7629** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

Maybe that would be nicer. The Ottawa U in Phoenix is a satellite campus of the Kansas one. It seems that when Baptists want a university in their community that reflects their religion they affiliate it with the original one in Ottawa, Kansas.

That "Univ" abbrev mak my ski craw.

Norman Bates · #**7630** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 6:36 PM**

When the transitway from hurdman west opened, circa 1985, the stop at the then University of Ottawa, was called simply: University.

Capital Shaun · #**7631** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 7:29 PM**

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When the transitway from hurdman west opened, circa 1985, the stop at the then University of Ottawa, was called simply: University.

I knew the stop as "Campus", which I always found super generic.

Reecemartin · #**7632** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 7:34 PM**

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J.OT13 · #**7633** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

The Confederation Line alignment between Pimisi and uOttawa is completely new, so I don't think you can claim this. I understand that it is replacing an existing central transit corridor but you can't say that nothing is happening in the centre of the city.

And in Toronto, doesn't the Crosstown count as a new line through the central part of the city?

As lrt's freind mentionned, I'm referring to the addition of urban transit lines. Yes, the new system is upgrading urban stations and adding two (Cleary and New Orchard), but it's an upgrade, not new service, other than those two. The line is built to serve the suburbs and happens to serve part of the pre-war city.

Crosstown, while serving an relatively urban area, is again dumping thousands of commuters on the overcapacity downtown University-Yonge line. The DRL should be priority, not Crosstown, Scarborough, Vaughn or Markham. DRL.

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When the transitway from hurdman west opened, circa 1985, the stop at the then University of Ottawa, was called simply: University.

When did they change it to "Campus"?

I understand why it's not called simply "University" or "Campus". We have two major universities a third in Ottawa and another in Gatineau.

Honestly, I'm ok with calling uOttawa because it's arguably bilingual. But writing it 4 times on a sign makes that advantage pointless.

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Edmonton has a downtown tunnel and a mostly grade-separated alignment for the Capital Line which considering the high floor vehicles and ~150m platforms gives a much higher max capacity than Ottawa if its needed.

According to Wikipedia, stations are 129 meters. High floor does offer more flexibility in terms of seat configuration (or removal of) however, level crossings outside of downtown limits the potential frequency, especially the Metro Line, which interlines with the Capital Line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_station_(Edmonton)

J.OT13 · #**7634** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:09 PM**

Bayview

https://twitter.com/b1keridingpinko/status/1022904807353450496

https://www.westsideaction.ca/train-spotting-west-side-style/

Pimisi

https://twitter.com/b1keridingpinko/status/1022904798348230659

https://www.westsideaction.ca/train-spotting-west-side-style/

Belfast Yards expansion progress

https://twitter.com/rail613/status/1022604973207633920

DarthVader_1961 · #**7635** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:20 PM**

Speaking of Vancouver...

Seth Rogen the new voice

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c...ouver-transit-1.4762933?cmp=FB_Post_News

acottawa · #**7636** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:40 PM**

Nice to see West Side Action back.

Reecemartin · #**7637** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:43 PM**

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Norman Bates · #**7638** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Capital Shaun

I knew the stop as "Campus", which I always found super generic.

You’re correct. My error completely.

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

When did they change it to "Campus"?

I understand why it's not called simply "University" or "Campus". We have two major universities a third in Ottawa and another in Gatineau.

Honestly, I'm ok with calling uOttawa because it's arguably bilingual. But writing it 4 times on a sign makes that advantage pointless.

Desolé. J’etais dans les patates!

Uhuniau · #**7639** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:55 PM**

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When did they change it to "Campus"?

I don't think I've ever known it as anything other than "Campus".

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Honestly, I'm ok with calling uOttawa because it's arguably bilingual. But writing it 4 times on a sign makes that advantage pointless.

It's the same bureaucratic thinking that has "bilingual" bus stop announcements for untranslatable place names. And often bizarrely "bilingual": "Alta Vista / Aaaalta Veeeesta"

kmcamp · #**7640** Posted **Jul 28, 2018, 12:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Uhuniau

I don't think I've ever known it as anything other than "Campus".

It's the same bureaucratic thinking that has "bilingual" bus stop announcements for untranslatable place names. And often bizarrely "bilingual": "Alta Vista / Aaaalta Veeeesta"

At least they're being equal opportunity in their mangling... You get both "Conroy/Cohn-rwah" and "lissy clawdul/Lycée Claudel". For those who don't know french it should sound more like lee-say clo-del